Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?

[Mr. Krinkle]

It was from a partial intercept of a Russian missile by Ukrainian air defense


it's not the WW3 you were hoping for @TripSitterNZ - don't be upset about it

 

[Señor Moreno]

Few hours after telling the world that they had been attacked by Russia, polish president admits today that those bombs were ucranian. I guess you can't trust a folk called Duda (Spanish for doubt)

So, let's see: yesterday we should activate art. 5, that's to start a nuclear war over two dead people, because Russia had killed them, so they were martyrs.
Today, as it became clear that Ucraine was behind the bombing, we must forget the incident, as victims only were two ramdom dudes.

Zelensky the Comedian yesterday urged NATO to act as Russia was guilty. Today, knowing the bombs were ucranian, he doesn't feel the need to apologize.

I wonder if those families are happy now that they know that their beloved ones have been killed by ucranian friends, instead by the russian enemy.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Nas47]

Absolutely they are!! Only crazy people could call for a nuclear weapon to be used against other human beings!


But, wait...



Oh... I see...sorry.





If Zelensky would have had nukes in his arsenal, we all would be balls deep into a nuclear war long ago.
I honestly think, or want to think, that NATO and Russia are working into some kind of peace pre- agreement, western countries may have gotten already what they wanted: big bussiness have been done and the russian army has been severely damaged by now. Russia, perhaps, could accept to keep control over Crimea, Dombas and maybe a land corridor inbetween. Problem now is the ucranian role here.

Ucraine had not choice but to ask for western help, but they knew all that help was not for free, they knew that they were trading sovereignty for weapons, and now they see how they only have a decorative voice in the potential negotiations. So they will probably try and avoid them to succeed.
These misils in Poland seem a good standing point. No confirmation of the russian procedence, even if confirmed, there is still no evidence about Russia voluntarily striking Poland, (willingness is key: in 1999 a NATO bomb destroyed the China Embassy in Belgrade by mistake, apologies were given and it all ended there) but here you have Zelensky urging NATO "to act", that is, to start a nuclear war over the incident, no need for further investigations or apologies, let alone an agreement. Just "NATO action", nuclear war is the only solution he foresees.

Man....in the beginning of war Zelenski plead to NATO closed the sky over Ukraine-that's mean put the world in nuclear conflict.Zelenski got very "wise"suggestion to NATO to use nuclear assault against Russia to "prevent nuclear assault?"WTF?!?This man is more dangerous than Putin...like usual Americans create monsters(al Kaida) and so on,which they think could be on chain...but is very dangerous...cause mujahedeen,that they create next became Al Kaida and next ISIS.This country Ukraine is already sold mi hermano....now it's only which part would be for Western masters and which for Russia.Klichko told citizen of Kiev,if they can to leave the city,'cause there will not be el.power,water&hot in houses.Foreign minister said to Ukranians-don't go back.....well for me that is a sign,that thiscountry just don't exist anymore.He(Zelenski) robbed his own oligarchs.(Rinat Ahmedov,Igor Kolomoiski and so on.)nationalized their own busyness&money..people who help the fight russians...that is robbery man....'cause it a war and everything is ok.-to grab others money,to send on front students....absolute suffer for these people.Better alive&with intact country even at Putin's rule,than desert burned land with thousand crying mothers.

 

[Nas47]

Few hours after telling the world that they had been attacked by Russia, polish president admits today that those bombs were ucranian. I guess you can't trust a folk called Duda (Spanish for doubt)

So, let's see: yesterday we should activate art. 5, that's to start a nuclear war over two dead people, because Russia had killed them, so they were martyrs.
Today, as it became clear that Ucraine was behind the bombing, we must forget the incident, as victims only were two ramdom dudes.

Zelensky the Comedian yesterday urged NATO to act as Russia was guilty. Today, knowing the bombs were ucranian, he doesn't feel the need to apologize.

I wonder if those families are happy now that they know that their beloved ones have been killed by ucranian friends, instead by the russian enemy.

Bombs were ukranian.Confirmed by U.S. also
PS. when U.S. bombed brutally Serbia,there were a lot of missiles(U.S.) on our territory(no victims)..anyone heard of these something?

 

[December Flower]

all the fucking muppets on mainstream media are posting russian fake news as facts. This missile was not sent by ukraine. Its not a s300. Fuck AP news Fuck twitter fuck aljazera terror scum news. and fuck mainstream media. Fuck biden aswell!

Pussies are all running away making up lies that it was a ukraine missile because nato are a bunch of fucking pussies who will let putin attack them

And how do you determine who is lying to you? Ah, bias. I get it.

 

[December Flower]

Bombs were ukranian.Confirmed by U.S. also
PS. when U.S. bombed brutally Serbia,there were a lot of missiles(U.S.) on our territory(no victims)..anyone heard of these something?

Ppl dont want to believe that Ukraine did some fucked up things in the last 16 years, although up until 8 years ago it was ALL OVER the news - because thats against the western narrative. So boo Russia, yay NATO and Ukraine. Lets talk again when it's time to return all the tanks and weapons we sent

 

[Nas47]

The last 8 years in the news was Syria&Islamic state-watching beheadings are far more interesting,that some conflict in Donbass,which most of western people even don't know where is located.Guess some of the weapons are now in Burma,where military junta bombard villages in Kachin&Shan states.This conflict in Burma is second largest conflict in the moment after this in Ukraine....even was some info leakage,that some artillery guns are sold into russians,which in return bomb ukranians with them.Corruption in this country is far beyond that in Russia....just some people needs land...with all laying under....the people-they can go in Europe or everywhere they wantOnly women&children,'cause men are gunflesh)....but land without people is not country....u could call it a colony,an oversea territory,but it's not autonomic country....and the people lived there&russians are both slavic,both orthodox&share one history through the centuries...the bones of same people(ukranians&russians)lies on Balkan mountains along with our fighters from Russo-Turkish war in 1877-1878

 

[December Flower]

The last 8 years in the news was Syria&Islamic state-watching beheadings are far more interesting,that some conflict in Donbass,which most of western people even don't know where is located.Guess some of the weapons are now in Burma,where military junta bombard villages in Kachin&Shan states.This conflict in Burma is second largest conflict in the moment after this in Ukraine....even was some info leakage,that some artillery guns are sold into russians,which in return bomb ukranians with them.Corruption in this country is far beyond that in Russia....just some people needs land...with all laying under....the people-they can go in Europe or everywhere they wantOnly women&children,'cause men are gunflesh)....but land without people is not country....u could call it a colony,an oversea territory,but it's not autonomic country....and the people lived there&russians are both slavic,both orthodox&share one history through the centuries...the bones of same people(ukranians&russians)lies on Balkan mountains along with our fighters from Russo-Turkish war in 1877-1878

in Europe Ukraine and Donbass were in the news 24/7 up until 2014, until the US narrative hit,
then radio silence. Then came the big Corona brainwash, and now nobody remembers.
Srsly ppls memories have become so fucking bad with that Corona news inflation.

There were documentaries about it, like Ukraine on Fire, lots of news, historians talking about how evil it is what the US is doing, that they keep pushing for Ukraine to join NATO, invest billions of $ into Ukraine, forcing Russia's hand to do something crazy. Then the narrative hit and radio silence.

Yknow if you hear for years "omg the situation in Ukraine is so crazy, radicals have taken over, speaking Russian is being forbidden and people are murdered in the East, genocide of 12,000 people but probably much more, USA is staging a coup,", and then suddenly it's nothing, like absolutely nothing, no news no nothing. And when the news resurface it's "boo Russia, they are attacking poor harmless Ukraine. Just look at the size of Russia, now look at the size of Ukraine. Back to Russia, now back to Ukraine. Now look to America. Those guys are the best. Now back to Russia: Evil evil evil" - I shit you not that is 100% how it went down, and why it's so hard for me to believe that BS narrative.

 

[PtahTek]

A social media post making a claim, and from there on out, it doesn't matter what anyone else says

Aint that the truth.
Boggles me that we have given ourselves to a written statement without doing some facts. This is on our dumb asses. lol
I posted about the weapon used because it would seem unlikely that they (Ukraine) would make such and unneeded move.
They have russia beat down and are getting an updated air defense system(s) from many nations to stop all incoming missiles and bombs dropped.
Am waiting on evidence to be exposed.
Even if they find the missile did come from Uk even by accident all blame falls on putin anyway cause he is the cause of it all anyway. lol
Too late.imo.
UN is involved now and united against russia.
Chinese gonna take east russia cause putin out of bullets and nobody likes him anymore. predictions and opinions

 

[December Flower]

Aint that the truth.
Boggles me that we have given ourselves to a written statement without doing some facts. This is on our dumb asses. lol
I posted about the weapon used because it would seem unlikely that they (Ukraine) would make such and unneeded move.
They have russia beat down and are getting an updated air defense system(s) from many nations to stop all incoming missiles and bombs dropped.
Am waiting on evidence to be exposed.
Even if they find the missile did come from Uk even by accident all blame falls on putin anyway cause he is the cause of it all anyway. lol
Too late.imo.
UN is invilved now and united against russia.
Chinese gonna take east russia cause putin out of bullets and nobody likes him anymore. predictions and opinions

NATO played that one like champs

 

[-=SS=-]

in Europe Ukraine and Donbass were in the news 24/7 up until 2014, until the US narrative hit,
then radio silence. Then came the big Corona brainwash, and now nobody remembers.
Srsly ppls memories have become so fucking bad with that Corona news inflation.

People can barely remember what they ate last week. The majority of people are fucking hopeless specimens. Some days I empathize with the ruling elite you know. But then I remember they helped retard all these people in the first place, with the crappy food, vaccines, and everything else.

What does my nut in though, is people in the UK who still can't even detect the patterns in news media. Not even a narrative, just pure presentation. I was a teen when Iraq pt2 happened. They're still using the same tired old formula, because apparently people are too stupid to notice it I guess.. or they lack intuition, or both.

You could lose the memory and base intelligence, but if you've still got the intuition you'll clock it when someone is bullshitting you. Apparently people lack that these days, which I attribute to alcohol and various excesses.

 

[Señor Moreno]

Bombs were ukranian.Confirmed by U.S. also
PS. when U.S. bombed brutally Serbia,there were a lot of missiles(U.S.) on our territory(no victims)..anyone heard of these something?

Oh, I fucking remember. Those bombs also reached Macedonia, the China embassy in Beograd and even Sandzak, despite that people being as muslim as Kosovo- albanians, the ones NATO claimed to be protecting.
And I didn't forget the bombing of Subotica's pharma industry, the water dams in (Serm) Mitrovica or the brigdes in Novi Sad, all civilian places far away from any military targetd
A Spanish bastard was the NATO general secretary back them, Javier Solana. I also remember the criminal General Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright, the bitch behind the scene.
Oh, Nas, hermano,, I remember so fucking well all of it!!
They failed miserably hitting military targets during the first weeks and even lost several "furtive" planes to the 1970s serbian air defense, so they went full on civilian targets.
They killed 6000 innocent people. But they were Orthodox, ethnically slavic, cirilc writers and russian friendly... because let's face it, supremacist ideas aren't only about skin colours, there is almost a two centuries old story of central european powers, often backed by anglo-turkish-french, trying to fuck slavic nations over. That Hitler's lebensraun wasn't a original thing from him.

 

[December Flower]

They killed 6000 innocent people. But they were Orthodox, ethnically slavic, cirilc writers and russian friendly... because let's face it, supremacist ideas aren't only about skin colours, there is almost a two centuries old story of central european powers, often backed by anglo-turkish-french, trying to fuck slavic nations over. That Hitler's lebensraun wasn't a original thing from him.

I'm imagining some medieval bard using the magical word "Lebensraun", a plant that gives life
Die Raune des Lebens. Sounds enchanting

Assuming you did mean the word that actually exists "Lebensraum", what do you mean by "Hitler's Lebensraum"
Cuz it makes 0 sense to me, and I'm German. Do you mean "Lebensraum im Osten?" That's not Hitler's idea you're right, it was Ratzel back in 1897 /w "political geography" (that's the name of the book, well should be - might be named differently in english). It was an idea for the Kaiserreich that Hitler rehashed. Social Darwinism

 

[Señor Moreno]

Sorry, yes, I meant the eastern vital space, so Lebensraun in Osten?
Yes, an old idea. In fact, the last centuries the confrontation of pangermanism versus panslavism have brought a lot of pain to Europe and even the world

 

[December Flower]

Sorry, yes, I meant the eastern vital space, so Lebensraun in Osten?
Yes, an old idea. In fact, the last centuries the confrontation of pangermanism versus panslavism have brought a lot of pain to Europe and even the world

Raum, again: Raun would be some Middle-High-German shit for Raune, which is a rather dated term for Alraune, which means Mandragora.

Lebensraum im Osten, yeah. Hitler pretty much just 1:1 copied Ratzel's ideas for the second Reich and used them for the third. For Ratzel, and by extension for Hitler, nations were like breathing, living beings. That's the social Darwinism I spoke of

 

[Electrum1]

Zelensky still claiming it was Russia. All he had to do was say "we messed up, but it wouldn't have happened if Russia didn't invade Ukraine" then asked for more free stuff

 

[Señor Moreno]

Raum, again: Raun would be some Middle-High-German shit for Raune, which is a rather dated term for Alraune, which means Mandragora.

Oh, sorrywasn't thinking about mandrágora, haha.
Didn't knew about Ratzel statements, just was aware of the idea being an XIX thing with much more ancient roots.
Thanks for the info!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Zelensky still claiming it was Russia. All he had to do was say "we messed up, but it wouldn't have happened if Russia didn't invade Ukraine" then asked for more free stuff

well....would it have happened if Russia wasn't launching missiles into Ukraine? No....

but it's the United States fault because they're helping Ukraine defend themselves, and if they didn't, the war would be over by now....

right ?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]