There are also the other MDxx, most of which are garbage and are prob used in trace amounts to fool testing kits when caffeine or speed is being sold as MDMA. Also the tree, the tree is sacred. If the tree isnt used the spirit prob doesnt go into the compound.
Yeah except there's a problem w/your spiritual theory (besides the
pseudoscience, of course)…
You know
all those MDxx drugs you claim are "garbage" and "used to fool testing kits", etc.? Well, most can be
synthesized from the same tree source, specifically for
Safrole, aka
3,4-methylenedioxyallylbenzene, which looks like this:
That allyl group is malleable, allowing the chemist to turn it into MDMA, MDA, MDE, etc in typically three to five steps using various intermediates (e.g.: isomers, ketones, oximes)
Also there are prob people who dont want true MDMA being proliferated, why would Satanists (who control most things in this world) want true MDMA being proliferated ?
Oh wow, you can't really be serious about that. Lol. You've gotta be trolling… Haha right –
the assclownish followers of Anton LaVey have it in for MDMA, you're totally onto something here.
I do not believe it is a drug that opens a person to demons unlike many drugs (such as Meth, Flakka, even THC).
To be clear, you're
literally demonizing:
- Methamphetamine – you do know what the final "MA" stands for in "MDMA", right?
I'd also like to point out that this drug is Schedule II in the U.S.
- α-PVP – the relatively unknown stimulant that was a flash in the pan of mild popularity among RC drug fans, and
- THC – the most active and popular phytocannabinoid on the planet
But it doesn't matter because we're tying this in to the mythical folklore of demonology, which can be a cool inspiration for writing fiction, but that's about it.
Keep in mind Satanists are like a hivemind, they habitually lie about everything to your face and know how to run covert agendas.
What're you, Geraldo Rivera? I know the 1980's are really on-trend right now, but that Satanism scare / moral panic from that era we can just drop. It was a crock of shit then and it's a crock of shit now. Satan isn't real; people who want you to believe in Abrahamic, Patriarchal "God"/"Allah" need the Devil to exist to prop up their religious notions. In other words, without the fear of Satan/Hell there would be no incentive to believe in God. Otherwise, what would the consequences be if you chose not to believe? No pit of
eternal damnation? Well shit; how're we gonna get people to behave? This is a flawed line of thinking.
Even the concept of the Devil and eternal damnation kinda challenges the existence of God. If God is all good (beneficent), all knowing (omniscient), and all powerful (omnipotent), then freewill is an illusion. God knows all things including the decisions you will make before you've made them. Being the case, why would a beneficent God create beings He knows He will only condemn to eternal damnation for "choosing" not to love Him, which is an insanely petty, jealous and childish kinda thing to do for an infinitely powerful, good, and omniscient being.
The demons they serve do not want to lift this world into a higher state, they want to keep it down and will work against anything that raises the spiritual level.
Those demons don't exist. That's silly. If you mean it metaphorically that's still laying it on a bit too thick.
All that said, we may be overcomplicating the issue.
Says the joker talking about Satanists and Demon lore.
Now Shulgin was a little old man, and he said nothing less than 120mg did it.
No, he wasn't. For most of his life, he was a tall, strapping, Russian-American man. Even in his old age, you wouldn't call him "a little old man." Check out the late, good Doctor here as a younger man:
Quite the handsome fellow, no?
Now, consider all the adulterants in a given batch of MDMA or MDMA pills, even the better ones. Now consider how many people say things like ''i think il do half a pil hehe'', or even take the full pill when it only has 60mg, and then they pretend to be up (just consider how many people never actually come up but LARP when they say they dropped an e or MD) - people are liars, and they are also scared and understandably so. However you need to understand this phenomena, allot people pretend to take drugs to seem cool or whatever (this is real phenomona and its huge). Then when asked how they found MDMA thel say ''yea it was fun it made me real chatty and stuff'' and you know they are lying through their teeth (allot of woman do this but men do it aswel).
Yeah, no. Maybe in highschool or possibly undergrad years people might do this, but I can go out on any weekend to at least half dozen within a few miles of the city I live in and find hardcore Scenesters, Ravers, Club Kids, Burners, Wookies, weirdos and psychonauts. Not everyone is over on the bunny slopes.
You "need to understand this phenomena" you've fallen into of egocentrism. Your experiences are not universal.
So again, THE CORRECT DOSE, IS AT LEAST 120 MG. And it MUST be taken in one go.
There's not really a "correct" or "incorrect" dose, but FWIW, I do agree with that minimum amount needed and I also wholeheartedly agree that it should be taken in one go, but I think a single booster of roughly half the initial dose at about the 1.5 hr mark really helps to "blow up" the effects, potentiating and extending them. Anything past that point is arguably a waste of product.
Now that might mean double or triple dropping ecstasy tabs on your first time......do you see what i mean ? who does that ?
So what? It's only anyone's first time doing something just that one time. After that I've seen people get pretty daring pretty fucking quickly. You'd have to know the contents of the pill to be that sure though safely, no doubt. .
and this is where so many of the seeming fluctuations in the stats and reports come from.
While
I don't agree with your theory,
you have some salient points. However, I think you're making too many assumptions. Your personal conjecture is not persuasive when we need cold facts. Too many variables to factor out.
No dice this round. [EDIT: to be clear… I agree with your minimums and whatnot, just not that most pills are garbage or most people lie about their drug experiences. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ]
