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K... the Dems aren't actually going to run him again , are they?

Mr. Krinkle said:

President Joe Biden forgets he already shook Senator Chuck Schumer's hand​






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Electrum1 said:
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lolz. Gotta give the righties something to grab onto since unemployment is at its lowest in 50 years despite an imminent recession. Getting bills passed into law as well.

Remember when Trump couldn't even drink a glass of water with one hand? It's okay, I'd rather have someone who is a little forgetful with clenched hands than someone who intentionally spews bullshit all day, sells our country out to the Russians, and tries to overthrow a free and fair election.

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Opi_Kid_Rock said:
I really have no idea who the US wants next.
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Doesn't matter. The US is doomed when the grid fails and ATM's/Cash Machines/Cirrus payment platforms stop working and somehow out of all the destruction and chaos the social Anarchists rise up and seize power creating a new leaderless world.

Julian Assange is most likely to be both hoping this happens soon and making secret plans to leap frog from Head-Anon to North American Head admistrator (or whatever Social Anarchy supporters wish to call the new elite yet egarteriatian at heart controllers/decision makers
 
Jerry Atrick said:
lolz. Gotta give the righties something to grab onto since unemployment is at its lowest in 50 years despite an imminent recession. Getting bills passed into law as well.

Remember when Trump couldn't even drink a glass of water with one hand? It's okay, I'd rather have someone who is a little forgetful with clenched hands than someone who intentionally spews bullshit all day, sells our country out to the Russians, and tries to overthrow a free and fair election.

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they're both pretty bad - but yea, i'll agree with you - Trump was worse

im not sure how ppl think Trump was any better than what we have now ....and they're gonna try to run him out there again too which is just unreal....
 
Electrum1 said:
Good luck in November. Gonna need it unless lots of mail in ballots get counted for a week after election day
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I'm with you on a lot of stuff but the rigged election thing is a bit out there for me. Rightly or wrongly, people wanted a change from Trump. To the point that they were willing to vote for literally anyone who seemed "stable". Why is that so hard to believe?
 
nomorebenzos said:
Who the fuck would want to spend their retirement years living in that disaster Washington DC. I'd be drinking beer on a California beach somewhere with the Secret Service :cool:
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when you've been rich your entire life those things lose their appeal. They cling to power and relevance.
 
mal3volent said:
I'm with you on a lot of stuff but the rigged election thing is a bit out there for me. Rightly or wrongly, people wanted a change from Trump. To the point that they were willing to vote for literally anyone who seemed "stable". Why is that so hard to believe?
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To be clear, with election integrity I don't care who wins and loses, I care that they won or lost legitimately in an accountable election

Third world countries can even count their votes on election day, but we can't? We used to be able to, so what changed?

Doesn't pass the smell test to me that election security officials have called the election “the most secure in American history" when lots of sketchy stuff went on in multiple swing states. California and New York didn't have a bunch of issues, but swing states did...

Maricopa county AZ had ballots that were 10 different types/weights of paper, when only 1 type is allowed, 80lb VoteSecure ballot paper. Some were so thin that the ink bled through. Also, their election officials blocked entrance of Official House Election Observers, like other swing States also did with election observers and poll watchers, blocking out windows too, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania. I think Wisconsin did too but I can't find it right now when I just searched to confirm it happened.

Pennsylvania was accepting absentee ballots for 3 days after the election. Also, a UPS driver testified under oath that he delivered ~300k ballots from NY to Penn, but I don't know what ever came of that, guess I should look it again

Remember the busted water pipe in Georgia, then they said they're stopping counting so observers left and then they counted ~100k votes in the middle of the night that they kept pulling out from under a table, on video

I probably should have waited a day or two to reply, so I could find the other stuff I'm remembering and could have it all in one big post, but whatever, lol, I don't want to post a bunch of the other stuff I'm remembering until I can find it again.

Anyway, there's some of the stuff I remembered off of the top of my head that I could quickly confirm before posting

Also, remember the sudden jump in Biden votes in Wisconsin at like 5am? In January this year a Wisconsin judge ruled that the absentee ballot drop boxes Wisconsin used are illegal and can't be used again

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Also I know what the numbers state as far as unemployment and it at a low, but where I roam the earth there are still a lot of companies having to limit their service due to “lack of staffing” and with all the businesses that went under during the whole lockdown think I just find it hard to believe we’re at an all time low
 
In Australia they're saying the same thing. Lowest unemployment for x years. At the same time, the federal government is running a campaign to get over 65s back into the workforce. Apparently, they want half a million senior citizens pumping gas and scanning produce in grocery stores.

EDIT: Yeah, obviously there is always a degree of election fraud. My grandmother's nurse voted for her once. Pretty sure she voted for most of the residents of that nursing home for years until we finally caught her.
 
bird.is.the.word said:
I'm seriously amazed anyone believes in this election fraud bullshit.
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it's because this is the first president who was unable to bow out gracefully like other candidates and presidents have before him and he runs with the fraud and rigged story because he refuses to admit that he lost to probably one of the weakest candidates in history
 
Electrum1 said:
Third world countries can even count their votes on election day, but we can't? We used to be able to, so what changed?
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We need to move to a completely electronic system and ditch the electoral college.

Also, Republicans calling for recounts isn't the same as problems counting. Mail-in ballots were counted for days after the end of the election... but it's no mystery, it's because they were mailed in up to the last day, and take some days to arrive. We had more mail-in ballots than ever because of covid and all the people too scared to leave their houses.
 
Had you been watching the Jan 6 hearings, you would have seen nearly all of these THEORIES debunked. Even Trump ally Steve Bannon said on his podcast months before the election that if Trump lost, he would deny losing and attempt to win by alternative methods. This is why I keep repeating myself that Jan 6 was merely the culmination of months and months of planning by Trump's allies, even way before November.
Electrum1 said:
Maricopa county AZ had ballots that were 10 different types/weights of paper, when only 1 type is allowed, 80lb VoteSecure ballot paper. Some were so thin that the ink bled through. Also, their election officials blocked entrance of Official House Election Observers, like other swing States also did with election observers and poll watchers, blocking out windows too, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania. I think Wisconsin did too but I can't find it right now when I just searched to confirm it happened.
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Many of the "election observers" and "poll watchers" were partisan protestors attempting to seek out and find fraud that simply did not exist. Allowing them entry to counting stations would have absolutely caused more chaos and disrupted the legal process of counting votes in secure facilities.
Electrum1 said:
Pennsylvania was accepting absentee ballots for 3 days after the election. Also, a UPS driver testified under oath that he delivered ~300k ballots from NY to Penn, but I don't know what ever came of that, guess I should look it again
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Debunked by FBI/DOJ interrogation of truck driver.
Electrum1 said:
Remember the busted water pipe in Georgia, then they said they're stopping counting so observers left and then they counted ~100k votes in the middle of the night that they kept pulling out from under a table, on video
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Debunked. The case under the table was an official election lock box. The counters were sent home early and locked the ballots up in their secure boxes. Then the boss said No, you have to stay and keep counting. So they returned to their stations, removed the boxes from beneath the tables, and continued counting. All on camera. Right wing news sites and Giuliani only showed snippets of the video out of context.
Electrum1 said:
Also, remember the sudden jump in Biden votes in Wisconsin at like 5am? In January this year a Wisconsin judge ruled that the absentee ballot drop boxes Wisconsin used are illegal and can't be used again
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It's called the Red Mirage and happens EVERY election count. Like Xorkoth said, mail-in ballots take time to be delivered, open the envelopes, and count. Historically, dems vote by mail more than pubes, which is why it happens every election cycle. It always appears red is winning until the rest of the blue votes are accounted for a little later due to the mail-in ballot reasons I just listed above.

I get it, your guy lost and you and others were/are sore about it. There are legal ways to fight so called fraud in court. Trump's lawyers filed 60+ lawsuits, many presided over by Trump appointed judges. Every single one thrown out due to *ding, ding, ding* lack of evidence. All they had were hunches and rumors. No clear or hard evidence. You know why? Because it didn't exist.

Sure fraud happens prolly in fractions of a percent and on both sides. Certainly not enough to overturn over 7 million legally cast votes.
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Also I know what the numbers state as far as unemployment and it at a low, but where I roam the earth there are still a lot of companies having to limit their service due to “lack of staffing” and with all the businesses that went under during the whole lockdown think I just find it hard to believe we’re at an all time low
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I'm sure 9 times out of 10 the "lack of staffing" would be solved by paying a living wage. It's pretty common knowledge by now that the companies that pay enough are not exhibiting any lack of staffing. People are fed up and union membership has skyrocketed in the past year for a reason.

The min wage hasn't been raised in over a decade and had it kept up with corporate gains, would be $26 per hour right now. Had it kept up with Wall Street profits and bonuses, it would be $60. That's why capitalism is one big fucking pyramid scheme with all the money flowing upwards and pennies floating down. Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime....
 
She didn't need to watch them, everything she needed to know, she got from listening to her preferred propaganda outlets.

I get there is propaganda on all sides, but I challenge anyone to watch the Jan 6 hearings and evaluate the truthfulness of the witnesses by the same way you evaluate the truthfulness f anyone; their body language, inflection, etc. It's pretty compelling. And there is a lot of it from people who were on Trump's side, and Republicans. This is the same technique I used to evaluate the character of Trump, by the way. I don't get how anyone could have listened to/watched him speak throughout his presidency and come to the conclusion that he was anything but a grifter. Unless you lack the ability to read people.
 
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