The Dive's Covid Thread

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In the entire history of mankind? Worse than the crusades, worse than the holocaust, worse than the world wars of the 20th century?

Right now 67% of the worlds population, 5.2 billion people, have had at least one dose (4.2 billion fully jabbed).

If there's anything malicious in the concoction, or even if it just backfires as an experimental product, then it will certainly qualify as the greatest in the history of mankind - what metric can you really go on besides total numbers of afflicted (is being starved to death in Auschwitz greater than being impaled by a Spanish sword?).

 

[JGrimez]

@Neuroborean if this is a conspiracy to kill everyone for population control why is all this information publicly accessible?

I dunno man, I just express very basic logical doubts about things and theories which seems to piss a lot of people off here.

I love conspiracies, I truly do, huge conspiracy and mystery nerd. But from everything I've seen nobody has provided a good, cohesive covid conspiracy or any corresponding good evidence of anything other than potential minor risks of vaccines (which are less than the risks of unvaccinated covid infection).

If this is population control they are doing a comically horrible job at it and failing miserably all while leaving all the "evidence" in plain view.

Just because they're planning depopulation doesn't mean that it will succeed or even run smoothly. These people are insane and powerful but not particularly intelligent or creative.

Hubris will be their downfall. But it seems they will take a lot of people down with them

 

[Jabberwocky]

Just because they're planning depopulation doesn't mean that it will succeed or even run smoothly. These people are insane and powerful but not particularly intelligent or creative.

Hubris will be their downfall. But it seems they will take a lot of people down with them

I'm planning an eat the rich rally. Storm billionaires houses and take all their shit.

They can't stop all of us if we group up.

 

[JGrimez]

Trump's uncle was the man in charge of going through the stolen possessions of the deceased Nikola Tesla, after the FBI illegally confiscated all of it the instant he died.

For that reason alone his entire family is off the checklist of the trustworthy. Connection with the military industrial establishment is a big fat red flag.

Trump is ultra-Zionist which is hilarious when they tried to say he is a white supremacist. They called him that because he fired up the white voter base which helped him win the election.

Then later Trump turned into a vaccine salesman. After warning about the dangers of vaccines multiple times on twitter before he became president. So, many people who originally supported Trump later saw him for what he really is, a puppet of the establishment.

 

[JGrimez]

I'm planning an eat the rich rally. Storm billionaires houses and take all their shit.

They can't stop all of us if we group up.

Easy on the fed-posting there brother

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Trump is ultra-Zionist which is hilarious when they tried to say he is a white supremacist. They called him that because he fired up the white voter base which helped him win the election.

Then later Trump turned into a vaccine salesman. After warning about the dangers of vaccines multiple times on twitter before he became president. So, many people who originally supported Trump later saw him for what he really is, a puppet of the establishment.

Part of me thinks a lot of these people mean at least some of what they say while running for president, but when they actually get Elected they get taken to a room where they get a brief case that has a bunch of documents that ultimately spell out you don’t run shit we’ll let you know what to do, the shadowy mysterious people running shit n all

 

[mal3volent]

Trump is ultra-Zionist which is hilarious when they tried to say he is a white supremacist. They called him that because he fired up the white voter base which helped him win the election.

Then later Trump turned into a vaccine salesman. After warning about the dangers of vaccines multiple times on twitter before he became president. So, many people who originally supported Trump later saw him for what he really is, a puppet of the establishment.

nah, I think some people just like shiny objects.

voting for an "outsider" who has already been president once just doesn't feel as rebellious, does it?

 

[imo_incolae]

In the entire history of mankind? Worse than the crusades, worse than the holocaust, worse than the world wars of the 20th century?

Far worse.
The changes caused by all those events haven't equalled the huge shifts in wealth and power that occurred within the past two years. There has been more serious changes to society within the last few years than there has been in a long time.

Hundreds of billions of dollars transferred from global wealth to global elites didn't exist during the Crusades and what did exist only existed in value comparison to a very battered rust bucket car in today's world. In fact, you'd be the richest man in the world back in the medieval era if you had even half a modern car engine to show people back then. Your smartphone is worth more than what entire populations owned back then.

The holocaust didn't vaccinate the entire world population and earmark every person with the risk of injury or death from its administration, it was politically targeted at specific groups of people. Most people were safe. Back then enemies of the state were very nuanced and specific. There were "rules" to go by. Today no political group is safe and its a free for all where the government is very transparent in its attacks on every imaginable threat to its existence and ironically people now publicly shame like they themselves are extremists, humiliate and demonize anybody they are told to do so by their masters. So people are more disillusioned as a result. Back then if you were a Jew that was enough. Today you can be anybody from anywhere and you're a potential target where there are no safeguards because the rules are long gone out of the window. Just blame it on a unicorn or a virus and its okay. Just watch one CNN show and you're out on a witchhunt to flesh out your own family for not believing in the latest craze. You'd have never seen that happen during these times. The idea of community and connection and shared identity kept people strong. Communities actually existed whereas today people are more disconnected than ever happily married to social media and smartphones than whats actually going on around them. You would have never dreamed about attacking your neighbour or the couple across the city. You couldn't have done anyway. The apparatus didn't exist it, which should be even more alarming now that it does exist and is weaponized regularly Today what most people think is perfectly normal would have been completely unacceptable, even in the days of the most tyrannical rulers like Hitler. He would have never allowed his population to turn against one another. To splinter into warring factions. To begin destroying the fabric of its social and cultural collective reality in order private interests. Hitler would have eradicated them so he could maintain absolute power. The Soviets did the same thing. Today though, private interests work alongside tyrants and those tyrants are your modern day leaders going to war every year over corrupt bullshit narratives. Tyrants in both private and public sectors, both complimenting each other.

The wars of the 20th century ironically started the process of the transfer of wealth and power and started the agendas rolling out today. All were setup to build the foundations for the new world order; economically before anything else. After the first world wars there was a huge push for more power and control over the lives of average people. The modern war machine racket began here. Private interests in bed with government for mutual benefit overriding the foundations of democracy and consent. It started with many wealthy people who capitalized during heightened prosperity in booms of the industrial era where huge amounts of wealth was created. Huge industries and hugely wealthy individuals conspiring on the world stage for the first time. Because they could. Now they had the resources and the technological advancements. Also successful and lucrative relationships with the higher echelons of society were formed capable of influencing the highest ranks of government. Unparalleled access to resources created a haven for competition and the dawn of capitalism had been formed, which conveniently, came about at the time of great growth in wealth, resources and state power and exploitation of these by the rich and powerful. And conveniently only a few reaped the benefits while the lower rungs suffered which also strangely is still the case today. Only people have less than they had back then even though they have more in terms of standard of living and economic wealth, although they get a drip of that and it doesn't belong to them. People are more enslaved and in debt and dependent on the system than they ever have been. Deliberately so. The wars helped kick it off.

Put it this way, in the 20th century you had more freedom than you did today. Not more wealth, not more education, not more of many things. But you had more freedom. The freedom of the individual was paramount. Responsibility was yours. If you worked hard you would be rewarded. No credit cards. No debt based society. No colossal financial predators. No collusion to trap consumers. More transparency in government. Life was much more simpler. Your government hadn't yet turned into a cold heartless machine that consumed the people it was originally tasked to serve. The monopolies of our time hadn't yet emerged fully. Democracy and liberal government hadn't yet quite turned its back on the people. The Western dream of democracy and liberalism hadn't yet been corrupted and compromised, dissected and sold to the highest bidder. There wasn't enough time for capitalism to even collapse in on itself yet. The game was still fairly new. Democracy still belonged to the people and people still influenced local and national affairs. Society was still very much traditional and there was still a sense of assuming roles that benefited the overall functioning of society where everyone knew their place and things worked much more better. You couldn't put a wedge in this at this time and so family was stronger, community was stronger, a shared sense of shared identity was stronger which meant more insulation from predatory external influences.

All that changed though. Now you're on your own. You belong to nothing. You own nothing. You work for nothing and achieve nothing. And you believe in nothing for the sole purpose of serving everything other than yourself and your community.

Some big changes that only happened really over the last few decades. The serious ones though which have tore up our social realities in devastating ways have happened only within the last few years.

 

[PtahTek]

eat the rich rally

I am down with this.
lets fuckin GO!

 

[Jabberwocky]

I am down with this.
lets fuckin GO!

We meet up under the bridge on Wednesday nights. The password is Orange Blossom.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

 

[PtahTek]

Sic Semper Tyrannis

(closest I could find to a salute lol)
Will be under the local bridge tonight with dick in hand.

 

[Neuroborean]

In the entire history of mankind? Worse than the crusades, worse than the holocaust, worse than the world wars of the 20th century?

yeah, I do think so,
wars are not "scandals", sadly is how the world has worked for thousands of years, I'm not defending violence in any way but honor and bravery are real values, that one can handle when one decides (freely) if go to work or not, or while there, even obliged.
What I want to say is that a war, even if it's crazy of for idiotic or genocidal reasons, it is what it is, it's not cross-dressed as being an "exercise of peace and love", or if someone says that, it's normally seen as propaganda and completely fakeness.
What makes the vaccines deploy a scandal is that, if eventually it's proven (well, for me it's more than proven but for the general population, I mean) that they are dangerous and the virus + the vaccines were created to harm, then is the biggest, most monstrous scandal, a DECEPTION.

A war is not, by itself, a deception, the reasons to go to war could be, but it's clearly not the same. One go to war knowing that s/he can be killed, and probably need to harm somebody,
one go to the physician to inject something that is supposedly made for the benefit of humanity, not to poison, sterilize of kill anybody.
Wars are stupid, cruel and unhuman, but not "deceptive" nor "scandalous" by definition. Same with the Holocaust and the Crusades, genocides done for ideological/religious reasons are as old as humanity, and the jews knew perfectly that they were not loved there, not only in Germany, by the way, in a lot of places of Europe during those days. You probably know about Haavara agreement, the nazis fleeted ships to Palestine to "get rid" of Jews, firstly by non-violent ways, supported by some of the zionists. Then we all know how it ended up...
About the Crusades I think is pointless to be talked about, considering that those religious/military campaigns were done by all civilizations for centuries: Roman Empire, Gengish Khan, Ottomans, Ummayad...

 

[Xorkoth]

Right now 67% of the worlds population, 5.2 billion people, have had at least one dose (4.2 billion fully jabbed).

If there's anything malicious in the concoction, or even if it just backfires as an experimental product, then it will certainly qualify as the greatest in the history of mankind - what metric can you really go on besides total numbers of afflicted (is being starved to death in Auschwitz greater than being impaled by a Spanish sword?).

Alright, fair point. In terms of numbers, then if there is indeed a sinister agenda to it, then it would be the largest of all time.

If it's a money grab, which is what I think it has turned into, then it's up there with the largest, or maybe even the largest, although I think there have been worse for the average person (the average person isn't the one buying vaccines, not directly anyway).

Part of me thinks a lot of these people mean at least some of what they say while running for president, but when they actually get Elected they get taken to a room where they get a brief case that has a bunch of documents that ultimately spell out you don’t run shit we’ll let you know what to do, the shadowy mysterious people running shit n all

yeah definitely. A president really isn't as powerful as people think, congress is more powerful as a body, and the best intentions can come to not very much.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Alright, fair point. In terms of numbers, then if there is indeed a sinister agenda to it, then it would be the largest of all time.

If it's a money grab, which is what I think it has turned into, then it's up there with the largest, or maybe even the largest, although I think there have been worse for the average person (the average person isn't the one buying vaccines, not directly anyway).



yeah definitely. A president really isn't as powerful as people think, congress is more powerful as a body, and the best intentions can come to not very much.

If you think about it a guy like Elon musk or Jeff bezos or any foreign billionaire has enough money to buy every single important person in government so could ultimately have more power, golden rule n cash is king n all, not saying that’s what’s happening, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility either

 

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Alright, fair point. In terms of numbers, then if there is indeed a sinister agenda to it, then it would be the largest of all time.

If it's a money grab, which is what I think it has turned into, then it's up there with the largest, or maybe even the largest, although I think there have been worse for the average person (the average person isn't the one buying vaccines, not directly anyway).

In terms of finances, it most certainly is at the very least a money grab by pharmaceuticals. I'm convinced they know they're selling magic beans to everyone, that their 'science' is completely fraudulent, and that it is all about marketing directly using fear. The book 'Virus Mania' by Engelbrecht revealed that clearly. It's a complete sham that involves the pharmaceutical industry and powerful figures in government and media, a revolving door of corruption. Much in the same way the 'defence' industry clearly works under the table with the CIA and State Department, etc, to instigate conflicts so they can sell weapons.

I don't think these people actually know what the truth is about causes of diseases they purport to sell products for - personally I believe a handful right at the top, above the pharmaceutical industry, understand the truth. It is irrelevant in terms of making money though. So long as the customer believes in what they're selling. People think this is far out conspiracy but if you look at the history of medicine men right from the primitive shamans right down the line, to medieval alchemists, to Victorian street hustlers, it has always involved a tremendous amount of bullshit and hypnosis.

The totality of the pandemic itself is also the largest transfer of wealth (theft) in history. They knew exactly what they were doing with lockdowns and printing funny money, and by the time the average person finally clocks what is going on they will own nothing and be happy.

 

[JGrimez]

Alright, fair point. In terms of numbers, then if there is indeed a sinister agenda to it, then it would be the largest of all time.

If it's a money grab, which is what I think it has turned into, then it's up there with the largest, or maybe even the largest, although I think there have been worse for the average person (the average person isn't the one buying vaccines, not directly anyway).



yeah definitely. A president really isn't as powerful as people think, congress is more powerful as a body, and the best intentions can come to not very much.

Intelligence agencies are more powerful than Congress as they are unelected and continue to reign after the average politician has left office (or been voted out, or killed off).
Then even more powerful than that are foreign intelligence agencies like the Mossad who basically dictate US foreign and domestic policy. The proof is every politician pandering to the most powerful political lobbying group AIPAC and the way that every single politician votes in favor of bills favorable to the state of Israel (since when is their bipartisan support for anything else? - spoiler alert: US military interventions overseas benefit Israel and not the US, that's why they're generally in the Middle East).

 

[JGrimez]

wars are not "scandals"

They are when both sides are funded by the same group.

You probably know about Haavara agreement, the nazis fleeted ships to Palestine to "get rid" of Jews, firstly by non-violent ways, supported by some of the zionists. Then we all know how it ended up...

The holocaust was actually extremely beneficial and helpful to Zionists because it gave them the justification to create the state of Israel. They were previously encountering great resistance to the idea as the British were not keen on displacing the local Palestinian population. Then when you view the fact that Hitler was cutting deals with the Zionists, and letting Jews leave Germany, the plot thickens... Not exactly the actions of someone who wanted to exterminate them all (as the popular story goes).

 

[JGrimez]

nah, I think some people just like shiny objects.

voting for an "outsider" who has already been president once just doesn't feel as rebellious, does it?

It might be a concept that's foreign to Leftists or Democrats, but some people withdraw support for politicians after they've proven to be liars or don't hold up their promises.

 

[JGrimez]

In terms of finances, it most certainly is at the very least a money grab by pharmaceuticals. I'm convinced they know they're selling magic beans to everyone, that their 'science' is completely fraudulent, and that it is all about marketing directly using fear. The book 'Virus Mania' by Engelbrecht revealed that clearly. It's a complete sham that involves the pharmaceutical industry and powerful figures in government and media, a revolving door of corruption. Much in the same way the 'defence' industry clearly works under the table with the CIA and State Department, etc, to instigate conflicts so they can sell weapons.

I don't think these people actually know what the truth is about causes of diseases they purport to sell products for - personally I believe a handful right at the top, above the pharmaceutical industry, understand the truth. It is irrelevant in terms of making money though. So long as the customer believes in what they're selling. People think this is far out conspiracy but if you look at the history of medicine men right from the primitive shamans right down the line, to medieval alchemists, to Victorian street hustlers, it has always involved a tremendous amount of bullshit and hypnosis.

The totality of the pandemic itself is also the largest transfer of wealth (theft) in history. They knew exactly what they were doing with lockdowns and printing funny money, and by the time the average person finally clocks what is going on they will own nothing and be happy.

It doesn't take an expert researcher to look into the insane amounts of corruption, criminality and lack of accountability surrounding Big Pharma. The fact that so many people continue to trust these companies boggles my mind. Especially the Left, who were extremely critical of these corporations a decade ago.

 

[mal3volent]

It might be a concept that's foreign to Leftists or Democrats, but some people withdraw support for politicians after they've proven to be liars or don't hold up their promises.

Because Trump was totally trustworthy and reliable as of 2016