Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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in order not to feel invega I take 4-5 stilnox a day. they are hypnotic but if you stay awake they give an excitatory dopaminergic effect ... you feel like you didn't have invega ... but it doesn't last long ... and now I'm addicted. without stilnox I would kill myself ... the clinics to detoxify do not take me because they say that I can stop by myself. and that they help customers who take. 50 100 pills a day ... advice ?? after 9-10 hours without stilnox I tremble, sweat, migraine, I feel bad. that's why I'm a junkie and I take more a day
Oh dear....4-5 stilnox is A LOT! No wonder you are having withdrawals from it when you don't take it. Have you tried to cut down how many stilnox you take? Or are you not worried about it?
 
I don't know any psychiatrists so I can't ask any to come on here. Sorry.

Hmmm yes, it does sound like a very toxic relationship you have with this person....is that your mother by any chance?
It would be very good to have a psiquiatrist on this forum.

She is not my mother but she has a lot of influence over my mother. She is an MD. This are the family that said they were helping me pushing me onto invenga.

It is really sad to kill myself but I feel so bad. I have no improvement at all and such an environment. I would like to convince my environment that I am bad because of invenga but I do not know how. This drug has killed my brain and all the relationships I had
 
It would be very good to have a psiquiatrist on this forum.

She is not my mother but she has a lot of influence over my mother. She is an MD. This are the family that said they were helping me pushing me onto invenga.

It is really sad to kill myself but I feel so bad. I have no improvement at all and such an environment. I would like to convince my environment that I am bad because of invenga but I do not know how. This drug has killed my brain and all the relationships I had
How old are you? I only ask as if you are a minor then you don't have much choice in the matter.

If you are an adult you can change your situation. You can get a job and get out of there. You aren't on invega anymore so unless you have something preventing you from changing your life circumstances..........you do have a choice in the matter. I'm not sure ( and you don't say ) why your Mom forced these meds on you but there must have been a reason.

But now you are off of them. And whether or not you believe it.........you can recover. And you can have a nice life. BUT..........you have posted on here that you stay in bed all day and want to kill yourself. That sounds to me like you still have psychological issues that need to be addressed and if you were my child and you never got out of bed and told me you were going to kill yourself every day I would also be worried that you needed SOME kind of help. Maybe not invega.....but something. Other people are having some issues recovering but your issues go beyond that. Weight gain, dopamine drops, sexual side effects.........the normal things when we quit antipsychotics. Your issues seem to go much deeper than just quitting invega.

What's holding you back? Get a job, get out in the world, breathe some fresh air, hug somebody, get a dog, take a swim in a pool, take a shower or just do anything but you really need to get out of bed. That's the first thing you need to do. Once you do that it might just feel really good and who knows what might happen. Maybe your bed is just making you worse. Maybe your bed is the enemy.
 
I'm an adult. But I don't have just drop in dopamine. That was with the first 2 injections. But my family tricked me to get more, and the psychiatrist too, promising that the effects leave in 3 months. I was feeling worse and worse, then I lost completely sleep. I think that is when I lost all dopamine. Now I feel truly miserable in anything I do. That's why I stay in bed, it would be impossible for me to get a job in my state. I also move very slowly. It is hard to explain if you haven't lived it but invenga has done to me severe damage, more than to anybody else on this forum. I feel miserable 24/7 and nobody can help me. That's the reason why I think about killing myself. Everybody else sounds like recovering I feel like having permanent damage on dopamine receptors and I can't even ask a doctor for a help with that. I'm completely out of life and I suffer a lot. I am guilty for trusting the psychiatrist that the effect would leave in 3 months. But I still have complete 0 dopamine. It is impossible to live like that. You feel bad all day at anything you can do like scrolling your mobile phone. I know I am very bad but it is because of Invenga. As I said, it is impossible to explain

Most people here were not tricked into more injections. There are few people doing bad from to that got tricked till 6. It was the biggest mistake of my life and I might pay it with my life. I am so bad that I can't believe in recovery. If at least I would sleep naturally a little.

Don't get it wrong. All my issues are with invenga. Nobody can help me
 
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I'm an adult. But I don't have just drop in dopamine. That was with the first 2 injections. But my family tricked me to get more, and the psychiatrist too, promising that the effects leave in 3 months. I was feeling worse and worse, then I lost completely sleep. I think that is when I lost all dopamine. Now I feel truly miserable in anything I do. That's why I stay in bed, it would be impossible for me to get a job in my state. I also move very slowly. It is hard to explain if you haven't lived it but invenga has done to me severe damage, more than to anybody else on this forum. I feel miserable 24/7 and nobody can help me. That's the reason why I think about killing myself. Everybody else sounds like recovering I feel like having permanent damage on dopamine receptors and I can't even ask a doctor for a help with that. I'm completely out of life and I suffer a lot. I am guilty for trusting the psychiatrist that the effect would leave in 3 months. But I still have complete 0 dopamine. It is impossible to live like that. You feel bad all day at anything you can do like scrolling your mobile phone. I know I am very bad but it is because of Invenga. As I said, it is impossible to explain

Most people here were not tricked into more injections. There are few people doing bad from to that got tricked till 6. It was the biggest mistake of my life and I might pay it with my life. I am so bad that I can't believe in recovery. If at least I would sleep naturally a little.

Don't get it wrong. All my issues are with invenga. Nobody can help me
Well.........we will just have to agree to disagree. Because somebody can....and will...help you.

I do believe you that you think invega ruined your health ( and your life ) but I don't believe that you can't be helped. I know nobody likes to tell others the behaviors that put them on invega in the first place. I understand that as it is probably embarrassing to tell strangers and everyone on here is a stranger. But another professional you could be truthful with and bare your soul and they could indeed help you.

I'm going to assume you behaved in a certain way that prompted your family to realize you needed help. Blaming them for YOUR behavior is the first thing you have to get past. Many of us on here did things that worried and frightened our family and many of us were hospitalized because of it. Against our will. That MAY have happened to you as well.

I can tell you one thing though. Blaming our family and blaming Dr.s for trying to help us is a dead end road. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. BUT....life can get better if you want it. But you have to want it.
 
How old are you? I only ask as if you are a minor then you don't have much choice in the matter.

If you are an adult you can change your situation. You can get a job and get out of there. You aren't on invega anymore so unless you have something preventing you from changing your life circumstances..........you do have a choice in the matter. I'm not sure ( and you don't say ) why your Mom forced these meds on you but there must have been a reason.

But now you are off of them. And whether or not you believe it.........you can recover. And you can have a nice life. BUT..........you have posted on here that you stay in bed all day and want to kill yourself. That sounds to me like you still have psychological issues that need to be addressed and if you were my child and you never got out of bed and told me you were going to kill yourself every day I would also be worried that you needed SOME kind of help. Maybe not invega.....but something. Other people are having some issues recovering but your issues go beyond that. Weight gain, dopamine drops, sexual side effects.........the normal things when we quit antipsychotics. Your issues seem to go much deeper than just quitting invega.

What's holding you back? Get a job, get out in the world, breathe some fresh air, hug somebody, get a dog, take a swim in a pool, take a shower or just do anything but you really need to get out of bed. That's the first thing you need to do. Once you do that it might just feel really good and who knows what might happen. Maybe your bed is just making you worse. Maybe your bed is the enemy.
Nope her issues arent going deeper than that from what I saw, almost all invega users feel that way. She gets no sleep that could be a problem, but there were 3 users I knew that got 0 sleep for 6-8 months straight and one recovered, about another idk.
 
I'm an adult. But I don't have just drop in dopamine. That was with the first 2 injections. But my family tricked me to get more, and the psychiatrist too, promising that the effects leave in 3 months. I was feeling worse and worse, then I lost completely sleep. I think that is when I lost all dopamine. Now I feel truly miserable in anything I do. That's why I stay in bed, it would be impossible for me to get a job in my state. I also move very slowly. It is hard to explain if you haven't lived it but invenga has done to me severe damage, more than to anybody else on this forum. I feel miserable 24/7 and nobody can help me. That's the reason why I think about killing myself. Everybody else sounds like recovering I feel like having permanent damage on dopamine receptors and I can't even ask a doctor for a help with that. I'm completely out of life and I suffer a lot. I am guilty for trusting the psychiatrist that the effect would leave in 3 months. But I still have complete 0 dopamine. It is impossible to live like that. You feel bad all day at anything you can do like scrolling your mobile phone. I know I am very bad but it is because of Invenga. As I said, it is impossible to explain

Most people here were not tricked into more injections. There are few people doing bad from to that got tricked till 6. It was the biggest mistake of my life and I might pay it with my life. I am so bad that I can't believe in recovery. If at least I would sleep naturally a little.

Don't get it wrong. All my issues are with invenga. Nobody can help me
I could barely walk until 2 months off.
 
Well.........we will just have to agree to disagree. Because somebody can....and will...help you.

I do believe you that you think invega ruined your health ( and your life ) but I don't believe that you can't be helped. I know nobody likes to tell others the behaviors that put them on invega in the first place. I understand that as it is probably embarrassing to tell strangers and everyone on here is a stranger. But another professional you could be truthful with and bare your soul and they could indeed help you.

I'm going to assume you behaved in a certain way that prompted your family to realize you needed help. Blaming them for YOUR behavior is the first thing you have to get past. Many of us on here did things that worried and frightened our family and many of us were hospitalized because of it. Against our will. That MAY have happened to you as well.

I can tell you one thing though. Blaming our family and blaming Dr.s for trying to help us is a dead end road. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. BUT....life can get better if you want it. But you have to want it.
Only thing she could get is antidepresant or wellbutrin, and I read it didnt help people on invega much. Addarel is only temporal help, maybe something to flush invega out faster would help, like kratom. St Johns wort helps in long run most likely.
 
I was just scared of electromagnetic waves. I was not a thread to myself or to others but they decided to keep me. It is horrible what has happened from a small psychosis to end up wanting to die because of dopamine depletion. And my family just listened to the psychiatrist who was saying invenga was very good. It is really catastrophic
Well.........we will just have to agree to disagree. Because somebody can....and will...help you.

I do believe you that you think invega ruined your health ( and your life ) but I don't believe that you can't be helped. I know nobody likes to tell others the behaviors that put them on invega in the first place. I understand that as it is probably embarrassing to tell strangers and everyone on here is a stranger. But another professional you could be truthful with and bare your soul and they could indeed help you.

I'm going to assume you behaved in a certain way that prompted your family to realize you needed help. Blaming them for YOUR behavior is the first thing you have to get past. Many of us on here did things that worried and frightened our family and many of us were hospitalized because of it. Against our will. That MAY have happened to you as well.

I can tell you one thing though. Blaming our family and blaming Dr.s for trying to help us is a dead end road. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. BUT....life can get better if you want it. But you have to want it.
 
@Nina2021 ..........I'm sorry that happened to you. I really am. I can't say enough words to comfort you or to make you believe in life again. I can only wish you peace of mind and someday I hope that you get it. <3
Now you do understand that I think about killing myself? It was just a small thing that became huge because of my family and psychiatrists. And now my family even wants confinement for psychosis to invenga. They can not believe a medication was so bad, well, I couldn't either. To have a psychiatrist that confirms this issues would be of a huge help
 
What do you do for work? I stand all day sorting mail at a mail processing plant.
I trim marijuana and also package it. But I’m moving to the grow soon where it will be more labor work so that will be a lot harder. But the reason I’m moving is because I can’t trim the amount of weed that they ask for because invega makes me slow and they threatened to fire me if I didn’t get faster. They don’t know I’m on invega so that’s why they’re a little harsh
 
I was on an antipyschotic shot before i couldn't get any pleasure i didn't have much hope. Working out felt lame. Everything was dull. Couldn't feel high from weed.

It took a year off the shots to be able to enjoy things again. That year was horrible but you guys will recover.
 
I was on an antipyschotic shot before i couldn't get any pleasure i didn't have much hope. Working out felt lame. Everything was dull. Couldn't feel high from weed.

It took a year off the shots to be able to enjoy things again. That year was horrible but you guys will recover.
Yeah thats my experience too. It takes a year to recover from antipsychotics. My problem is i keep getting put on these damn drugs and keep having to wait a year to recover. Going through this once sucks. But this is my 4th time now. Im kinda waiting for new medication to come out which would help with psychosis. Specifically ulotaront. It will take 4 years for that to come out though.
 
I trim marijuana and also package it. But I’m moving to the grow soon where it will be more labor work so that will be a lot harder. But the reason I’m moving is because I can’t trim the amount of weed that they ask for because invega makes me slow and they threatened to fire me if I didn’t get faster. They don’t know I’m on invega so that’s why they’re a little harsh
Oh i thought you were off invega already. Yeah im slow at my job too. But its a government job so its not too hard. Im supposed to do 30 hours a week but xan barely manage to do 18 hours. Im a slowly start doing 24 hours a week. Maybe in a months time
 
To have a psychiatrist that confirms this issues would be of a huge help
I agree it would be great to have a psychiatrist comment on this thread. If anyone knows a psychiatrist please feel free to ask them to read this thread and post a comment!

I trim marijuana and also package it. But I’m moving to the grow soon where it will be more labor work so that will be a lot harder. But the reason I’m moving is because I can’t trim the amount of weed that they ask for because invega makes me slow and they threatened to fire me if I didn’t get faster. They don’t know I’m on invega so that’s why they’re a little harsh
Do you feel like you could tell your boss that you're on a medication that affects your muscle speed? You wouldn't have to tell them exactly which medication it is or why you're on it, but you do have a right to tell them there's a medical reason your movement is affected. But it's also understandable if you don't feel comfortable telling them about it at all. Here in Australia we have a LOT of really strict workers rights where you cannot get fired from a job for any medical reason whatsoever, we are very well protected like that. But I think in other countries like America you're not so lucky??

I was on an antipyschotic shot before i couldn't get any pleasure i didn't have much hope. Working out felt lame. Everything was dull. Couldn't feel high from weed.

It took a year off the shots to be able to enjoy things again. That year was horrible but you guys will recover.
Was that invega, or a different antipsychotic? Not that it matters much, just curious :)
 
Sono d'accordo che sarebbe bello avere un commento da uno psichiatra su questo thread. Se qualcuno conosce uno psichiatra, non esitare a chiedergli di leggere questo thread e pubblicare un commento!


Ti senti come se potessi dire al tuo capo che stai assumendo un farmaco che influisce sulla tua velocità muscolare? Non dovresti dire loro esattamente quale farmaco è o perché lo stai assumendo, ma hai il diritto di dire loro che c'è una ragione medica per cui il tuo movimento è influenzato. Ma è anche comprensibile se non ti senti a tuo agio a raccontarglielo. Qui in Australia abbiamo MOLTI diritti dei lavoratori davvero severi in cui non puoi essere licenziato da un lavoro per nessun motivo medico, siamo molto ben protetti in questo modo. Ma penso che in altri paesi come l'America non sei così fortunato??


Era un'invega o un antipsicotico diverso? Non che importi molto, solo curiosità:)
the only psychiatrist who comes nearer said it lasts 5 months .... it's a pity that I'm at 11. stilnox and addictions apart from my weight hasn't dropped and I'm sick .. but I don't even explain how badly because you already know
 
Now you do understand that I think about killing myself? It was just a small thing that became huge because of my family and psychiatrists. And now my family even wants confinement for psychosis to invenga. They can not believe a medication was so bad, well, I couldn't either. To have a psychiatrist that confirms this issues would be of a huge help
@Nina2021, What country are you located? Are you in the US? If so, what state?

The reason I ask is because at least in the US, a patient is allowed to change psychiatrists. I would try shopping around until I found a psychiatrist who was knowledgeable on the effects of Invega. Then that psychiatrist would be able to tell your family that Invega is bad for you.

Also, in the US you have the legal right to fill out a Mental Health Advanced Directive. This document, which normally must be signed by witnesses and notarized, will allow you to refuse certain medications in advance should you become incapacitated in the future. So if you are ever hospitalized, you could produce the Advance Directive to your psychiatrist and the hospital and by law, they would have to honor it. The only catch is that sometimes there is a clause that states you must be of sound mind in order to activate the Advance Directive. So if Invega is causing your mind not to be sound, it could possibly be difficult to do.
 
@Nina2021, What country are you located? Are you in the US? If so, what state?

The reason I ask is because at least in the US, a patient is allowed to change psychiatrists. I would try shopping around until I found a psychiatrist who was knowledgeable on the effects of Invega. Then that psychiatrist would be able to tell your family that Invega is bad for you.

Also, in the US you have the legal right to fill out a Mental Health Advanced Directive. This document, which normally must be signed by witnesses and notarized, will allow you to refuse certain medications in advance should you become incapacitated in the future. So if you are ever hospitalized, you could produce the Advance Directive to your psychiatrist and the hospital and by law, they would have to honor it. The only catch is that sometimes there is a clause that states you must be of sound mind in order to activate the Advance Directive. So if Invega is causing your mind not to be sound, it could possibly be difficult to do.
That is very good info however unfortunately I think Nina is in Europe...?
 
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