Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?
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Las Veghost grower
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I read something about Russian tv playing swan lake and it being something they do when there is a power change ? Supposedly Putin might already be dead ?
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Is Putin Dead? Pay Attention When Russia Starts Broadcasting "Swan Lake"
To figure out what's going on in the Kremlin, the Russian president's enemies are keeping a close eye on a bird in pointe shoes. Here's the key.
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i think they're still waiting for swan lake to start
Putin thought it take 5 days max to take kyiv then threatened NATO to stop arming Ukraine and threatened Finland and Sweden to not apply to join Nato along with nuclear war on Britain . So now Nato will be from the black sea to the Artic the military only good for parades while killing of the young in an already declining population and people still say he is winning
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I have thought about this for months, and it's really not easy to admit, I kept thinking about it and came to the point, that upon carefully considering all I could say, can say, might say or will say, there are many different consequences for what it could mean if I said this or that, so I had to think really hard, pay attention to any nook and cranny of this precarious and highly complex issue.
While I might believe A, A might be Propaganda, and while I might disbelieve B, B might be the truth. So I sat down, I made charts, both pie and bar, I watched all the news in many different languages, studied the past 30 years with a passion, to be in a position where I can decipher the truth, and finally upon further investigation I arrived at the thought that I do not have anything to say, at all.
While I might believe A, A might be Propaganda, and while I might disbelieve B, B might be the truth. So I sat down, I made charts, both pie and bar, I watched all the news in many different languages, studied the past 30 years with a passion, to be in a position where I can decipher the truth, and finally upon further investigation I arrived at the thought that I do not have anything to say, at all.
thegreenhand
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Candidate for Freudian slip of the decade right here
Buzz Lightbeer
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17 billion almost directly to the arms dealers? Confirmation that the jig is still up
Las Veghost grower
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Sure you could do all that just to come out with the realization that you’ll never have enough legitimate info to form any kind of opinion based on reality…OR, you could just listen to CNN
I think Putin has dirt on very powerful people specifically in his country, just like Epstein did. How many oilarchs and other country officials were filmed in their hotel rooms with underage Russian hookers i wonder? Putin is actually very intelligent . He went from KGB officer to the head quickly and not fairly. He has his butt covered from a coup i believe.
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Jabberwocky
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Exclusive: Senior Russian Diplomat at U.N. Resigns, “Never have I been so ashamed of my country” - UN Watch
GENEVA, May 23, 2022 — Russia’s counsellor to the United Nations in Geneva has resigned, the most senior diplomat to defect since his country’s invasion of Ukraine began in February, according to an exclusive report by UN Watch, an independent non-governmental human rights organization based in...
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— Russia’s counselor, the most senior diplomat to the United Nations has resigned out of shame over the Ukrainian war
he released a statement part of it is this..
“Those who conceived this war want only one thing — to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity. To achieve that they are willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes. Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died just for this.
I regret to admit that over all these twenty years the level of lies and unprofessionalism in the work of the Foreign Ministry has been increasing all the time.
However, in most recent years, this has become simply catastrophic. Instead of unbiased information, impartial analysis and sober forecasting, there are propaganda clichés in the spirit of Soviet newspapers of the 1930s. A system has been built that deceives itself.
Minister Lavrov is a good illustration of the degradation of this system. In 18 years, he went from a professional and educated intellectual, whom many of my colleagues held in such high esteem, to a person who constantly broadcasts conflicting statements and threatens the world (that is, Russia too) with nuclear weapons!
Today, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not about diplomacy. It is all about warmongering, lies and hatred. It serves interests of few, the very few people thus contributing to further isolation and degradation of my country.
Russia no longer has allies, and there is no one to blame but its reckless and ill-conceived policy.
I studied to be a diplomat and have been a diplomat for twenty years. The Ministry has become my home and family. But I simply cannot any longer share in this bloody, witless and absolutely needless ignominy.”
Mr. Krinkle
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Exclusive: Senior Russian Diplomat at U.N. Resigns, “Never have I been so ashamed of my country” - UN Watch
GENEVA, May 23, 2022 — Russia’s counsellor to the United Nations in Geneva has resigned, the most senior diplomat to defect since his country’s invasion of Ukraine began in February, according to an exclusive report by UN Watch, an independent non-governmental human rights organization based in...unwatch.org
— Russia’s counselor, the most senior diplomat to the United Nations has resigned out of shame over the Ukrainian war
he released a statement part of it is this..
“Those who conceived this war want only one thing — to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity. To achieve that they are willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes. Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died just for this.
I regret to admit that over all these twenty years the level of lies and unprofessionalism in the work of the Foreign Ministry has been increasing all the time.
However, in most recent years, this has become simply catastrophic. Instead of unbiased information, impartial analysis and sober forecasting, there are propaganda clichés in the spirit of Soviet newspapers of the 1930s. A system has been built that deceives itself.
Minister Lavrov is a good illustration of the degradation of this system. In 18 years, he went from a professional and educated intellectual, whom many of my colleagues held in such high esteem, to a person who constantly broadcasts conflicting statements and threatens the world (that is, Russia too) with nuclear weapons!
Today, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not about diplomacy. It is all about warmongering, lies and hatred. It serves interests of few, the very few people thus contributing to further isolation and degradation of my country.
Russia no longer has allies, and there is no one to blame but its reckless and ill-conceived policy.
I studied to be a diplomat and have been a diplomat for twenty years. The Ministry has become my home and family. But I simply cannot any longer share in this bloody, witless and absolutely needless ignominy.”
that's some statement
Xorkoth
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Wow, good for him for saying something.
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I keep hearing from Western media and various politicians and pundits the following: Pres. Zelensky is Jewish, so that shows there is no Naziism in Ukraine.
From what I can tell, there's Naziism all over the world - in the USA and in every European country. And it's not just small, secret gatherings in obscure nooks and remote corners of these countries. It's loud and proud. Thank you for this thread. Americans are very naive.
Mr. Krinkle
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Yea there's nazis everywhere
that doesn't mean they're running things
that doesn't mean they're running things
Jabberwocky
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when the neo nazis in ukraine tried to get 5% of the vote to get to parliament they couldn’t even pull that off and got 2% so like the USA and Germany and every other place where there are people of different races they have neo nazis and extremists but they hardly come close to making up a threatening amount of the population we have a bigger problem here in the United States.
“The Azov movement’s National Corps (which was called a “nationalist hate group” in a U.S. Department of State Right Sector and others had formed a “united nationalist bloc” the month before the election, running with a combined slate of candidates in an attempt to push past the 5 percent electoral threshold to get into parliament.
Yet even combined, with half of the vote counted Monday morning, the far-right bloc had won only 2.3 percent of the vote. And prominent members running in majoritarian single-member districts — Ukraine has a mixed electoral system — didn’t even come close.”
Xorkoth
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Of course there are nazis everywhere. That doesn't mean that the majority of Ukrainians are nazis. Should every country be invaded, then? If there are nazis everywhere? Labelling a whole group of people as whatever morally reprehensible thing is literally the oldest play in the playbook. It's how the US justified invading Iraq and Afghanistan, and it's how Russia is justifying invading Ukraine.
DesertHarp
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I'm offended that you are imputing to me ideas that I certainly don't hold and have not expressed in my post. Go find someone who holds those dreadful ideas, if you want a debate like that.