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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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Nina2021 said:
I have all these sequels:
I have extremely severe anhedonia, I can't do a thing. Obviously I can't listen to music or watch tv
I have agitation. I can't be still besides when lying.
I have severe insomnia. I sleep 3h even with sleeping pills.
I have problems to walk. I have stiffness in my legs and I'm very rigid.
I have no body coordination.
I have no libido no menstruation
I can't laugh or cry
I have brain fog. I am basically dumb while I was smart before
I have problems to conversate. I will not talk on the phone or participate in a conversation.

I need to know if anybody has recovered of so much
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I cant really give my opinion on most of things listed because either I didnt have those problems or they went away in early recovery but the anhedonia and loss of emotions stuck for at least a year so I can speak on that, anhedonia and loss of emotions are tough to deal with, over time you will either recover them or adapt to not having emotions and living with anhedonia, first year of recovery I never lost my negative emotions, they just weren't as intense as before the injection, you will not wake up overnight and be healed it dosent work like that, you gain a little back each day etc - some dont, but for me I'd have improvements every month with the emotions and anhedonia, it took around 14 months for me to be able to experience happiness - joy and no anhedonia, even that long to have a true long cry, I was able to cry before that mark but it just felt empty, if you're able to feel any emotions that's a good sign, if you can feel boredom that's a good sign your anhedonia is going away, the first year of recovery when I would do something i enjoyed it wasn't boredom or fun, it was just nothing, like a emptiness, its hard to explain to someone unless they experience it themselves. Now I can enjoy things and actually feel boredom and happiness with things, not just this empty ass feeling all the time.
 
Micah444 said:
DirtyInvega! I’ve seen your YouTube videos on Invega, those were great! Yeah even with the stimulant I’m still having cognitive issues with motivation and learning…and still not feeling the full effect of the stimulant too. I too was misdiagnosed and put on antipsychotics which messed me up like no other drug ever has. At first, the Invega didn’t affect me, and then at 4 months boom I lost all thoughts, inner voice, suicidal, weight gain and lay in bed mostly 24 hours a day for over a year. The parkinsonism is still there but gradually going away. I can only handle the rowing and for the rest of the day my brain and body still feel like doing nothing and I’m approaching 15 months off the injections. It’s a very slow recovery but at least I can exercise. I feel that is most important since laying in a bed a whole year doing nothing is terrible for overall health. Sending you healing vibes for a full recovery mate and to everyone else.
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Hey hey! Yeah you have a very very similar situation and story to me. It’s definitely been a long arse journey for me but it’s getting there very very slowly the wheels are turning but. Yep I don’t feel the “Full” effect of the Ritalin but it definitely has helped me In lots of different ways. I definitely think I’ll recover fully but it’s years and years away but. Yeah the Parkinsonism is crazy hey I bet you still get stiff muscles and sore legs and somewhat loss of sensitivity all over your body and stuff like that just like me crazy stuff hey! Thanks mate you too. :)
 
Fanzy said:
how many injections have you had i remember? please give us some hope, tell us about your experience on Invega, have you been suicidal every day? have you recovered 100%?
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you can look my old posts. Yes I have fully recovered. In my case it was quite fast (6-7 month).
Don't loose hope. If you have no mental illness and you are not on forced treamtment, you are in a very good spot.
As for me, I was on forced treatment witch used to make me very anxious.

Also, believe me, miracles do happens. Read the 10 first page of the quran and ask God a miracle or to hasten your recovery. There is nothing to lost about asking help to God ( up to you coz I have already meet someone prefering to suffer and die )
I don't speak about religions. I encourage nobody to follow any religion and as for me, I am not part of any religion. But without go into details, I don't believe in trinity and I don't believe that Jesus is God...

Also, there is no way to fight anhedonia by making effords, you have to wait that the poison is out of your body imo.
 
Hey guys, do you start counting the days you're off injection from the day you got your last injection or from the day the injection expires you start counting when you are off injection
 
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Micah444 said:
DirtyInvega! I’ve seen your YouTube videos on Invega, those were great! Yeah even with the stimulant I’m still having cognitive issues with motivation and learning…and still not feeling the full effect of the stimulant too. I too was misdiagnosed and put on antipsychotics which messed me up like no other drug ever has. At first, the Invega didn’t affect me, and then at 4 months boom I lost all thoughts, inner voice, suicidal, weight gain and lay in bed mostly 24 hours a day for over a year. The parkinsonism is still there but gradually going away. I can only handle the rowing and for the rest of the day my brain and body still feel like doing nothing and I’m approaching 15 months off the injections. It’s a very slow recovery but at least I can exercise. I feel that is most important since laying in a bed a whole year doing nothing is terrible for overall health. Sending you healing vibes for a full recovery mate and to everyone else.
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How could we make all this known?
 
When to expect cognitive and metabolic improvements...any timeline or accurate guess?
 
t_xeplionhell said:
Thats bullshit. DO not scare people out who cant do stuff actively. And what even you can do, exercise? quite only helps to get poison out faster a bit (but it gets out anyway) and a bit helps in neuroplasticy, intermittment fasting is bullshit - only helps burn fat. Healthy diet I suppose most of us do that. Drinking a lot of water most of us do. Walks, most of us do. I do all of that except exercise, intermittment fasting I tried and messed up my sleep.
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Most the people who complain dont even buy supplements. They cant even be bothered to get st johns wort, let alond NAC which a user of this forum had huge success with. No one brings up NAC or gluthiathione.

If you take those products they will pull the invega out of the blood brain barrier. Not perfect, but it does work.

Fasting does work, you probably didnt do it right.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
What you even consider exercising @InvegaIsdeath. I did heavy stuff like 30 dips, 50-100 pushups, dumbbell shoulder exercises 2-5 different sets 10 reps, 30 body rows, pullups, etc few times a week for a month or two (which should be enough because some people exercised much less than me and still recovered), made me feel more like shit after because invega released more, from big shit you get to bigger shit, I cant handle that. Also my motivation is too low to exercise. My body tho looks very fit.
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I wrote a exercize routine in the last thread. I just told people to get buckets and fill it with rocks. Do overhead squats, farmers walkz, et
 
InvegaIsdeath said:
Most the people who complain dont even buy supplements. They cant even be bothered to get st johns wort, let alond NAC which a user of this forum had huge success with. No one brings up NAC or gluthiathione.

If you take those products they will pull the invega out of the blood brain barrier. Not perfect, but it does work.

Fasting does work, you probably didnt do it right.
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I know St. John’s wort is a interesting one it can make invega less effective and burns it faster and makes it weaker by inhibiting it or something if I remember. NAC and gluthiathione is interesting too but I’m definitely a fan of coenzyme Q10 definitely improves energy levels that’s for sure but it’s expensive fasting would burn your fat for energy and burn invega as invega is fat Soluble or based after all it’s injected into the muscle.
 
dirtyinvega said:
I know St. John’s wort is a interesting one it can make invega less effective and burns it faster and makes it weaker by inhibiting it or something if I remember. NAC and gluthiathione is interesting too but I’m definitely a fan of coenzyme Q10 definitely improves energy levels that’s for sure but it’s expensive fasting would burn your fat for energy and burn invega as invega is fat Soluble or based after all it’s injected into the muscle.
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You can buy NAC and Coq10 from wholesalers in powder form for a very cheap price. Nootropics depot is where to look.

I also bought sour tart cherry powder from there. Helped with sleep and energy
 
Fanzy said:
there are many who do not recover 100%, malakof for example had 2 injections, 2 years later he had no emotion, he says he recovered 50%, dirtyinvenga to pass the worst but it is not at 100%
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malkof is very rare case, dirtyinvega got 7 shots, malkoff is probably older guy.
 
Mxminxm said:
Hey guys, do you start counting the days you're off injection from the day you got your last injection or from the day the injection expires you start counting when you are off injection
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count from date off injections. Because we say 1month off injections for example.
 
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InvegaIsdeath said:
Most the people who complain dont even buy supplements. They cant even be bothered to get st johns wort, let alond NAC which a user of this forum had huge success with. No one brings up NAC or gluthiathione.

If you take those products they will pull the invega out of the blood brain barrier. Not perfect, but it does work.

Fasting does work, you probably didnt do it right.
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I take spirulina, B complex, lot of theanine, St'johns wort, green tea, burdock 12g, vitamin D, boron 12mg, iodine(ocasionaly), magnesium 1g, 1tsp apple cider vinegar, ocasional turmeric (I was taking it for 8-7 months at 5g). I was taking NAC for around 4 months. Will start scullcap and get new NAC and gluthiathione. I was also taking neem for 5months. Might try Tart cherry capsules.

I drink aronia 100ml-200ml daily. And 4-5 big tsp of wheat grass few times daily. I sometimes instead of wheat grass take barley grass, it is better for digestion to switch inbetween those.

Before I was taking L-tryptophane and L-tyrosine, Im sure it helped a bit.
Rose hip powder instantly helps a bit for few hours, theanine and green tea also helps a bit temporaly for 3-5h.
 
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t_xeplionhell said:
I take spirulina, B complex, lot of theanine, St'johns wort, green tea, burdock 12g, vitamin D, boron 12mg, iodine(ocasionaly), magnesium 1g, 1tsp apple cider vinegar, ocasional turmeric (I was taking it for 8-7 months at 5g). I was taking NAC for around 4 months. Will start scullcap and get new NAC and gluthiathione. I was also taking neem for 5months. Might try Tart cherry capsules.

I drink aronia 100ml-200ml daily. And 4-5 big tsp of wheat grass few times daily. I sometimes instead of wheat grass take barley grass, it is better for digestion to switch inbetween those.

Before I was taking L-tryptophane and L-tyrosine, Im sure it helped a bit.
Rose hip powder instantly helps a bit for few hours, theanine and green tea also helps a bit temporaly for 3-5h.
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Well if you dont get better its not because you didnt try
 
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