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Hi everyone.
I've noticed a distinct trend both on the forums and discord of people who are diagnosed with complex PTSD/complex trauma.
Gabor Mate has a pretty solid point (I think) where he states that trauma is the gateway drug to addiction.
I've been battling my cPTSD properly since 2016, which was when I finally ran away from home. It took a very long time to make substantial progress, but at this stage I'm a completely different person. From a guy who would turn sullen and aggressive at any mention of my father and would violently refuse hugs, I can now explicitly discuss the details of my abuse when I chose to disclose and enjoy hugs from people I care about. This is through 7-8 years of intense work.
I also did a lot of reading along the way, not all of which I can remember, but I thought it would be a cool idea for people to post their cPTSD resources that have helped them so that others may find a place to start working through severe trauma.
1. The Body Keeps the Score - Bessel Van Der Kolk. This is hard to read, quite scientific and dense. Probably not the first thing I'd dive into but gives excellent details on why your body responds to trauma how it does.
2. Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving - Pete Walker. An excellent resource, written by a therapist with cptsd himself. Very readable, especially in moments you may be struggling. Comes with a workbook and tools to use throughout your more difficult times.
3. Brene Brown - The Gifts of Imperfection. This is a fantastic book about shame and how it impacts people's lives. A must read for those who experienced prolonged childhood abuse, particularly by a caregiver.
4. Brene Brown - Daring Greatly. Also touches on shame but builds on how to live a life of vulnerability and to 'own your story.' This book gave me the strength to disclose my childhood abuse to chosen people.
5. What happened to You? Dr Bruce D Perry and Oprah Winfrey. Lots of interesting neuroscience in this book, I loved it. Talks about how we should be asking people who experienced trauma 'what happened to you' instead of 'what is wrong with you.' The only part of this I didn't like was that Oprah suggested that forgiving the person who abused or neglected you is the only way to heal - it is one way to heal. Not forgiving that person is just as valid.
6. http://pairadocks.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-10-steps-of-emotion-processing.html?m=1 a blog post about emotional processing
7. https://www.reddit.com/r/CPTSD/wiki/faq cPTSD FAQ. Useful resource for all things complex trauma related.
That's it for now, I'll update with some Reddit posts which I found amazing and any other books I recall. If you have something, please don't hesitate to add it.
WHAT IS COMPLEX TRAUMA:
Complex trauma, or cPTSD is a type of trauma that arises out of specific types of traumatic situations. It is not yet in the DSMV, however it is in the ICD-10.
Types of trauma that can cause CPTSD include but are not limited to:
- Prolonged child sexual abuse by a parent or caregiver.
- prolonged physical or emotional abuse by a parent or a caregiver.
- repeated sexual assaults.
- torture.
- being a prisoner of war.
- being in a natural disaster.
- being a victim of domestic violence.
It is the 'unescapable' nature of the trauma which results in complex PTSD. A person can experience multiple traumas in their life and never have complex PTSD. The interpersonal nature of the trauma is also significant. Most causal traumas are between people where there should exist an element of trust - parent/child, spouses.
WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS OF COMPLEX TRAUMA?
The symptoms are the CORE symptoms of PTSD (re-experiencing, arpusal, avoidance) PLUS affect regulation problems
People with complex PTSD tend to experience the core symptoms of PTSD as well as disturbances in their thoughts, behaviours and emotions including:
Please see a licensed therapist. cPTSD is difficult to diagnose and there are other mental health issues that look incredibly similar to it (such as Borderline Personality Disorder). In order to make sure you get the correct diagnosis and treatment, it's important to see someone who knows what they are doing.
TYPES OF THERAPY FOR COMPLEX TRAUMA:
1. Trauma Focussed Cognitive Behaviour Therapy
2. Cognitive Processing Therapy
3. Dialectical Behaviour Therapy
4. Exposure Therapy
5. Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing (EMDR)
6. Narrative Therapy
7. Family Systems Therapy
8. Accelerated Resolution Therapy
MEDICATIONS WHICH CAN HELP WITH SYMPTOMS:
- various antidepressants, I believe Effexor is one of them.
- Prazosin, a blood pressure medication which can prevent nightmares in those with PTSD. It can however come with such severe side effects that treatment is impossible, including 'first dose syncope' and extreme lightheadedness at increasing doses. It also apparently is more effective for people who experienced sexual trauma than other kinds.
- Guanfacine is an ADHD medication which I've just found out also can help with cPTSD/PTSD. It can target dissociation, hypervigilance, hyper-arousal (nightmares and flashbacks). It can also cause blood pressure issues.
- Clonidine, another blood pressure medication which works similarly to Guanfacine but which is more sedating. Side effects likely to be the same or similar as the above two.
- Propranolol, while not a medication specifically for PTSD or cPTSD is phenomenal at targetting physical anxiety symptoms, which obviously arise in this context with panic attacks and flashbacks. It won't do anything mentally, but it will stop shaking, sweating, racing heart, choking feeling, lightheadedness, etc. Doesn't have many of the same side effects as I've noticed from the other except it may keep your blood pressure a tad lower.
- tizanidine, another medication similar to the ones above
OTHER HELPFUL THINGS:
- Zen meditation
- mindfulness training
WARNINGS:
As stated by another member, GABA agents (alcohol, benzodiazapine medications) are NOT a sustainable option for treating cPTSD.
I've noticed a distinct trend both on the forums and discord of people who are diagnosed with complex PTSD/complex trauma.
Gabor Mate has a pretty solid point (I think) where he states that trauma is the gateway drug to addiction.
I've been battling my cPTSD properly since 2016, which was when I finally ran away from home. It took a very long time to make substantial progress, but at this stage I'm a completely different person. From a guy who would turn sullen and aggressive at any mention of my father and would violently refuse hugs, I can now explicitly discuss the details of my abuse when I chose to disclose and enjoy hugs from people I care about. This is through 7-8 years of intense work.
I also did a lot of reading along the way, not all of which I can remember, but I thought it would be a cool idea for people to post their cPTSD resources that have helped them so that others may find a place to start working through severe trauma.
1. The Body Keeps the Score - Bessel Van Der Kolk. This is hard to read, quite scientific and dense. Probably not the first thing I'd dive into but gives excellent details on why your body responds to trauma how it does.
2. Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving - Pete Walker. An excellent resource, written by a therapist with cptsd himself. Very readable, especially in moments you may be struggling. Comes with a workbook and tools to use throughout your more difficult times.
3. Brene Brown - The Gifts of Imperfection. This is a fantastic book about shame and how it impacts people's lives. A must read for those who experienced prolonged childhood abuse, particularly by a caregiver.
4. Brene Brown - Daring Greatly. Also touches on shame but builds on how to live a life of vulnerability and to 'own your story.' This book gave me the strength to disclose my childhood abuse to chosen people.
5. What happened to You? Dr Bruce D Perry and Oprah Winfrey. Lots of interesting neuroscience in this book, I loved it. Talks about how we should be asking people who experienced trauma 'what happened to you' instead of 'what is wrong with you.' The only part of this I didn't like was that Oprah suggested that forgiving the person who abused or neglected you is the only way to heal - it is one way to heal. Not forgiving that person is just as valid.
6. http://pairadocks.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-10-steps-of-emotion-processing.html?m=1 a blog post about emotional processing
7. https://www.reddit.com/r/CPTSD/wiki/faq cPTSD FAQ. Useful resource for all things complex trauma related.
That's it for now, I'll update with some Reddit posts which I found amazing and any other books I recall. If you have something, please don't hesitate to add it.
WHAT IS COMPLEX TRAUMA:
Complex trauma, or cPTSD is a type of trauma that arises out of specific types of traumatic situations. It is not yet in the DSMV, however it is in the ICD-10.
Types of trauma that can cause CPTSD include but are not limited to:
- Prolonged child sexual abuse by a parent or caregiver.
- prolonged physical or emotional abuse by a parent or a caregiver.
- repeated sexual assaults.
- torture.
- being a prisoner of war.
- being in a natural disaster.
- being a victim of domestic violence.
It is the 'unescapable' nature of the trauma which results in complex PTSD. A person can experience multiple traumas in their life and never have complex PTSD. The interpersonal nature of the trauma is also significant. Most causal traumas are between people where there should exist an element of trust - parent/child, spouses.
WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS OF COMPLEX TRAUMA?
The symptoms are the CORE symptoms of PTSD (re-experiencing, arpusal, avoidance) PLUS affect regulation problems
People with complex PTSD tend to experience the core symptoms of PTSD as well as disturbances in their thoughts, behaviours and emotions including:
- difficulties expressing emotions — it is common for someone to lose control of their emotions, such as in explosive anger or persistent sadness
- negative self-belief — a person can view themselves in a negative light, and they may feel helpless, guilty, or ashamed
- problems maintaining healthy relationships due to lack of trust — in some cases people avoid relationships completely, while others can develop unhealthy relationships
- ongoing feelings of emptiness
Please see a licensed therapist. cPTSD is difficult to diagnose and there are other mental health issues that look incredibly similar to it (such as Borderline Personality Disorder). In order to make sure you get the correct diagnosis and treatment, it's important to see someone who knows what they are doing.
TYPES OF THERAPY FOR COMPLEX TRAUMA:
1. Trauma Focussed Cognitive Behaviour Therapy
2. Cognitive Processing Therapy
3. Dialectical Behaviour Therapy
4. Exposure Therapy
5. Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing (EMDR)
6. Narrative Therapy
7. Family Systems Therapy
8. Accelerated Resolution Therapy
MEDICATIONS WHICH CAN HELP WITH SYMPTOMS:
- various antidepressants, I believe Effexor is one of them.
- Prazosin, a blood pressure medication which can prevent nightmares in those with PTSD. It can however come with such severe side effects that treatment is impossible, including 'first dose syncope' and extreme lightheadedness at increasing doses. It also apparently is more effective for people who experienced sexual trauma than other kinds.
- Guanfacine is an ADHD medication which I've just found out also can help with cPTSD/PTSD. It can target dissociation, hypervigilance, hyper-arousal (nightmares and flashbacks). It can also cause blood pressure issues.
- Clonidine, another blood pressure medication which works similarly to Guanfacine but which is more sedating. Side effects likely to be the same or similar as the above two.
- Propranolol, while not a medication specifically for PTSD or cPTSD is phenomenal at targetting physical anxiety symptoms, which obviously arise in this context with panic attacks and flashbacks. It won't do anything mentally, but it will stop shaking, sweating, racing heart, choking feeling, lightheadedness, etc. Doesn't have many of the same side effects as I've noticed from the other except it may keep your blood pressure a tad lower.
- tizanidine, another medication similar to the ones above
OTHER HELPFUL THINGS:
- Zen meditation
- mindfulness training
WARNINGS:
As stated by another member, GABA agents (alcohol, benzodiazapine medications) are NOT a sustainable option for treating cPTSD.
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