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Stimulants Can you get same euphoria from amphetamine regular, as meth?

JohnBoy2000

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Ees posible?

I typically needed 75 mg meth to get that euphoric rush (I used very intermittently like, once a month).

Is it possible to replicate this with regular amphetamine?
 
Yes, you just need a higher dose. There;s euphoria and I prefer it to meth and it isn't as overwhelming.
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
Yes, you just need a higher dose. There;s euphoria and I prefer it to meth and it isn't as overwhelming.
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psychonautwiki.org

Amphetamine

Amphetamine (also known as alpha-methylphenethylamine, amfetamine, speed, or by brand names including Adderall, Dexedrine and Tentin) is a classical stimulant substance of the phenethylamine class. It is the parent compound of the substituted amphetamines, a diverse group that includes...
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This page suggests it's typically dosed lower than meth.

Is there a euphoric ratio of one to the other?

i.e. 100 mg meth = 50 mg amphetamine etc?

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What dose of amph would you suggest is euphoric?
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
psychonautwiki.org

Amphetamine

Amphetamine (also known as alpha-methylphenethylamine, amfetamine, speed, or by brand names including Adderall, Dexedrine and Tentin) is a classical stimulant substance of the phenethylamine class. It is the parent compound of the substituted amphetamines, a diverse group that includes...
psychonautwiki.org psychonautwiki.org

This page suggests it's typically dosed lower than meth.

Is there a euphoric ratio of one to the other?

i.e. 100 mg meth = 50 mg amphetamine etc?

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What dose of amph would you suggest is euphoric?
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I always thought that meth was a lot stronger? Maybe I'm wrong.
I have no idea about doses tbh. I used to dose 100-200mg 5-12 times a day, but I ended up getting sectioned with amphetamine psychosis, so maybe less than that? lol.
I think most people start with like 20mg.
 
No you can't really get a methamphetamine type of euphoria from amphetamine given meth's more intensely serotonergic properties.
 
negrogesic said:
No you can't really get a methamphetamine type of euphoria from amphetamine given meth's more intensely serotonergic properties.
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Yeah, it kind of sucks actually. I dosed 60 mg nasally with a decent buzz, but couple hours later it's fading.

Another 20 mg orally to ease the comedown as apparently oral = fades more gradually.

Thus far amphetamine = weak sauce vs meth.
 
Does anyone find oral amphetamine far more effective than nasal?

That 60 mg above that I dosed nasally was okay, but the 20 mg orally totally blew me away.
 
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This may be skewed by the fact that i'm usually railing lines after binging on oral amp, but snorted amp doesn't seem as strong or last as long
 
Well the thing is, even if you assume amp bioavailability is 70% nasal and 90% oral, that's nearly a 30% total increase in actual drug delivered to your brain. And the nasal bioavailability will only get worse as your nose gets clogged with excessive amounts of powder from the pills.

It's just better in every way to take them orally
 
I think the experience of the two may be subjective somehow. My take is amp all the way and meth is never desired or taken. So even though I enjoy taking amp I don’t enjoy or take meth. So I get the desired euphoria and effects off amp and not meth.
 
They are very similar but meth does have that extra serotonin sparkle and duration. Amphetamine will have me good for 4-6hrs, Meth more like 6-8. Orally. Meth definitely has better legs to it. Amphetamine in the end is my favorite though if I had to just choose one, more versatile and the duration is perfect for most applications.

-GC
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
Ees posible?

I typically needed 75 mg meth to get that euphoric rush (I used very intermittently like, once a month).

Is it possible to replicate this with regular amphetamine?
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That's like trying to achieve the power of a kawasaki BIKE on a 🚲 lol.
 
neversickanymore said:
I think the experience of the two may be subjective somehow. My take is amp all the way and meth is never desired or taken. So even though I enjoy taking amp I don’t enjoy or take meth. So I get the desired euphoria and effects off amp and not meth
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Methamphetamine is far too intense and stronger for my liking aswell.
 
Meth is super strong but wow, for me at least, psychologically, sent me into orbit.

Incredible drug in that sense.

However the dry mouth and long term effect on teeth definitely concerns me.

80 mg amphetamine today and I was getting some good teeth chattering, torquing etc. (I'm wondering would it be prudent to wear a mouth piece, save ones teeth from clashing off each other?).

Some nice effect but as above, the effect of oral far surpassed the insufflated dose.

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Can anyone comment on the dose of amphetamine they use?
 
Also this is bizarre but I have to comment on it.

I read a paper or article at some point of a vicious klu-klux-clan member who lost his hatred after one dose of MDMA.

This last period of time I've had this burning hatred against a demographic of people;

Now I've dosed meth/amph before and not had this effect, so it's obviously a dual affect of the drug with a specific cognitive state (see blog),

But it's so bizarre.

The uplifting effect of a nice solid dose of amphetamine, just made me feel so much better about myself, more positive - less inferior really I suppose and thus less hateful toward those people;

And so much of that hatred just lifted off my shoulders.

Maybe when the amph is cleared it will reverse but at this moment, I feel more emotionally "free" than I have in the longest damn time - just unburdened by that furious animosity.
 
I get some great euphoria from amphetamine at 40-50mg. It's nothing like meth, and will never be meth, but still pleasant euphoria including a body high. Tolerance to the euphoria develops rapidly in just 2-3 days and cannot be forced with tolerance.

I do not care to take more than 60mg due to introduction of side effects.

Speaking of Adderall here, pharma.
 
Negentropic said:
I get some great euphoria from amphetamine at 40-50mg. It's nothing like meth, and will never be meth, but still pleasant euphoria including a body high.

I do not care to take more than 60mg due to introduction of side effects.

Speaking of Adderall here, pharma.
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I'm using acetone washed amph powder.

I feel like it's just changed my life (which it has).

I understand max possible purity comes in at about 65% or so, after which the amphetamine will become a liquid.

Anyways out of 2 grams, after the wash it came back at almost exactly 1 gram, presumably of relatively pure amph.

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I'm not sure how that stacks up against adderall purity in terms of dosing.... ?
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
Also this is bizarre but I have to comment on it.

I read a paper or article at some point of a vicious klu-klux-clan member who lost his hatred after one dose of MDMA.

This last period of time I've had this burning hatred against a demographic of people;

Now I've dosed meth/amph before and not had this effect, so it's obviously a dual affect of the drug with a specific cognitive state (see blog),

But it's so bizarre.

The uplifting effect of a nice solid dose of amphetamine, just made me feel so much better about myself, more positive - less inferior really I suppose and thus less hateful toward those people;

And so much of that hatred just lifted off my shoulders.

Maybe when the amph is cleared it will reverse but at this moment, I feel more emotionally "free" than I have in the longest damn time - just unburdened by that furious animosity.
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MDMA Is not the same as methamphetamine. MDMA is an empathogen drug, in fact the best one.
Methamphetamine is one of the most if not, the most intense stimulant drug there is.... so don't get em mixed up.
 
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