You what?
3-fpm when vaped was the fuckin best stimulant I've ever had. I'd love to get hold of the parent compound...
I suspect that it isn't very soluble so vaming would be a good choice. I got REALLY pissed off with nitrocvaine. Put it into a drink (Coca Cola ifyouknowwhatI'msayin') BUT it wasn't possible to snort because the idiots INSISTED that they could only make the hydrochloride salt which isn;t vcery soluble. Now, the phosphate was much more soluble, the sulfate was VERY soluble and it was like cocaine.
But that was the problem. Boss would point out issue, I would find answer & pass on to lab. Lab would contact boss & say it wasn't possible. LAZY, LAZY idiots. If 'cooks' can make amphetamine sulfate then they could make nitrocaine sulfate. As I said, the lab hired their own medicinal chemist and my boss fired him after 6 months,
But phenmetrazine is the dogs. EVERYONE who has tried stimulants say it's the best.
I would like to know if you ever got to try cvamfentamine (or the original - fencamfamine). That stuff really impressed me. I took it, forgot I had taken it but worked for 18 hours!
I would also add that cvamfentamine/fencamfamine havce opioid activity. Treatment for ODs incvlude naloxone. I would also like the chance to play with the structure to make a REAL opioid. Tilidine (or rather it's active metabolite nortilidine) is an opioid with stimulant & NMDA activity. I've never tried it but every report says ;best drug ever;. It's only M potency but who cares, so you only get 20 lines out of a gram..... it's still going to last 3-4 days.
I am struggling to add images that I have drawn. But all it shows is cvampfentamine on the left and campfentamine with a propionoxy moiety connected to the ring at the same point as the benzene ring connects. It's (S) trans, It is my theory that this would be about x2 M as an opioid, equipotent to campfentamine as DRI and quite possibly some NMDA activcity.
But it's important that people speak up about things they have tried and what they thought. Sometimes it's HARD to find really good things. I think the famous example is Jannssen discvovcering dextromoramide. ONLY the pyrrolidine amide was very active (compare with loperamide with dimethyl amide), ONLY 1 isomer and ONLY when the methyl side-chain was in the 1 position, not the 2 position as it is with every other 3,3-diphenylheptanone cvlass opioid.
I am OLD, I remember being given 'peacvh palfium' i.e. 10mg dextromoramide tablets. They were amazing but also amazingly dangerous. You swallowed a pill (ot 2 or 3) and about 20 minutes you got a rush that was like an IVC heroin rush. AMAZING. Of cvourse, it only lasted 2-3 hours and it had a REALLY bad problem. On one day you could take 5 of them (50mg dextromoramide ≈ 150mg of morphine) and you would goucvh and have a wonderful time. The next day you might take 3 and pull a blue in your mates bathroom.
I have woken up with someone holding me by the ankles over a bath while someone else beat me with a wet towel. THAT is how unpredictable they are. Long ago I worked oud that anything >M in potency is a bad idea. U-47700 taught me that. Nortilidine fits the bill (mu/DRI/MDMA) since is is SO euphoric but you have to make it from tilidine & not only is tilidine illegal, it;s rather expensive to make unless you order tonnes of precursor.
Just out of interest, if you had a powder that was llike m-F phenmetrazine also like oxycvodone & also like ketamine imagine 50mg of each but it's all in 50mg of powder.... would people LIKE it? I've heard of Kaos (ketamine + cocaine) which is £100/g and I here good cvke is £100/g so would this magivc mix be worth as mucvh?
I am guessing FEW people would be confident in snorting after being told what it will do ;-)