Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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thanks, first it needs to get approved in the usa and then i need to wait for it to get approved in canada, hopefully it gets approved in canada shortly after getting approved in the usa. After that i need to switch on it and wait like 6 months to recover from the injection im currently on. It could take like 3 years or so. it sucks to have a long wait but at least a new movement is coming out with these antipsychotics. hopefully this new drug replaces all the current drugs on the market and we wont have ppl who are getting injected with invegga sustenna anymore. the future i must say is looking pretty good for people on antipsychotic drugs.
Sounds good. Not sure what your case looks like, but can't you switch to an alternative med before that other one comes out?

Rexulti works quite well for me. If you're looking for something that doesn't sap your cosmic spirit so to speak, rexulti is actually great. My kundalini works fine on it - which is something I can't say for other meds I've tried.
 
I honestly don’t think any antipsychotic drugs is the solution. They’re all the same, just with different side effects.
I think mental illness needs to cured holistically through fasting, meditation, change in lifestyle and diet and mindfulness. Journaling also helps, that way we can read our thoughts from the past and see when we start going astray.
I have just started a 30 day fast to rejuvenate my mind and body and will let you’ll know if it helps.
You've got the right idea. Fasting is sometimes used in sanitoriums to not just treat mental illness, but actually cure it. There's a book called the mucusless diet and the professor who wrote it claims he's cured many ailments in people.
 
I lost about 8 pounds last week through keto, but I feel like that’s not much. So I’m doing a water fast to lose weight and heal my mind. Hopefully it works 🙏
 
Sounds good. Not sure what your case looks like, but can't you switch to an alternative med before that other one comes out?

Rexulti works quite well for me. If you're looking for something that doesn't sap your cosmic spirit so to speak, rexulti is actually great. My kundalini works fine on it - which is something I can't say for other meds I've tried.
Is rexulti an antipsychotic? Are you able to feel happy. Do you hsve emotions and cognitive ability? I lost all those things cause of the flupenexiol that i am on. Im having a bit of a hard time accepting i have to do this for another 2 years. Its so hard lol
 
Is rexulti an antipsychotic? Are you able to feel happy. Do you hsve emotions and cognitive ability? I lost all those things cause of the flupenexiol that i am on. Im having a bit of a hard time accepting i have to do this for another 2 years. Its so hard lol
I'm probably not selling it very well, but Rexulti is a new one and it's really quite benign. It helps regulate my delusions and yet I have noticed no downsides from it. My emotions and cognitive abilties are great. Had them tested.
 
I'm probably not selling it very well, but Rexulti is a new one and it's really quite benign. It helps regulate my delusions and yet I have noticed no downsides from it. My emotions and cognitive abilties are great. Had them tested.
that sounds pretty good, i was thinking of trying to switch to seroquel but if that dosnt work maybe ill try rexulti, thanks for the heads up. most of the time when you hear ppl on antipsychotics they just feel like shit on them, your one of the rare people who actually feel great while taking antipsychotic drugs. there are so many out there so maybe there is one that would work great on me. i just need to convince my psychiatrist to switch me to pills instead of injection, im on a CTO so i dont know how likely she is to do it. I hate being on a CTO, they want to limit me to the drugs that have injections and there arnt that many of them out there, most of the injections are first gen antipsychotics so its a bit rough.
 
I lost about 8 pounds last week through keto, but I feel like that’s not much. So I’m doing a water fast to lose weight and heal my mind. Hopefully it works 🙏
Wow! Eight pounds in one week that’s pretty impressive.
8lb in one week us arguably too much too quickly and is often just lost water-weight/fluid retention rather than any proper loss of mass. But the keto diet is great for weight loss if you can adhere to it.
How long are you going to do the water fast for @Afernandes1 ?
 
im also strongly against antipsychotic meds, ive been on a couple of them and they all made me feel like shit, never found one that made me feel good. but this new antipsychotic ulotaront dosnt antagonize dopamine receptors, i believe its the antagonizing of dopamine and serotonin receptors that make us feel like shit, instead this drug agonizes two receptors, a receptor called the TARR receptor and the 5ht2a receptor. it works completely different from all the other antipsychotics which is why i have hope it will be able to make me feel better. besides that im on a community treatment order so i cant get off meds even if i want to. i must say im getting sick of waiting for this new medication to come out but i dont have any other choice. all my eggs are in one basket, in the hopes that this medication wont make me feel like shit lol.
I hope that it get approved & works for you. It seems hopeful that it only blocks two specific receptors instead of everything. Wishing you the best.
 
I'm over 4,5 months off...right now difficulty with dealing with the whole history of psychosis. I keep ruminating over past mistakes i made..making the descision to live at family was the worst descision they called the insane asylum. I should have went home go into bed lit some candles and take some cbd oil...this what wat i used to do for many years. I kept making mistakes and did not think anything through at all. Once the sedation lifts and you can think clearly a bit you get into rumination land because for so long all emotions were blocked by invega. I'm heavily abusing cannabis taking up to 2 grams a day...on my worst day i easily used 4 grams weed is surely a boredom drug. Fasting triggered my psychosis i don't recommend fasting to anyone
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I don't to seem have any improvements but i noticed my skin and hair is less greasy and i smell less like invega. I can also sense there is something out there..i feel there is stimuli but i cannot properly perceive it. I can definitly feel emotions because i feel really bad about past mistakes
 
I hope that it get approved & works for you. It seems hopeful that it only blocks two specific receptors instead of everything. Wishing you the best.
It dosnt even block those 2 receptors it agonizes them. Meaning it activates them. So its 2-3 more years of hell until this new drug gets approved in canada.

On a side note i asked my doctor if she can switch me to seroquel and she said no. She wants me on injection as opposed to on pills. Im gonna use that on the tribunal hearing. Ill tell them i want to hsve more control of my medications and i want to get off injections and be switched to pills but my doctor wont let me. I think that may work. And who knows. If im on pills i could always just stop taking them assuming my family approves. Its a long shot but it might work.

Btw i read your post about psychosis. I dont know if what you had was really psychosis or not because you werent sctually hearing any voices you were just kind of crazy lol. So it makes sense you can recover from that but i was actually hearing voices idk if that is something you can recover from.
 
I'm over 4,5 months off...right now difficulty with dealing with the whole history of psychosis. I keep ruminating over past mistakes i made..making the descision to live at family was the worst descision they called the insane asylum. I should have went home go into bed lit some candles and take some cbd oil...this what wat i used to do for many years. I kept making mistakes and did not think anything through at all. Once the sedation lifts and you can think clearly a bit you get into rumination land because for so long all emotions were blocked by invega. I'm heavily abusing cannabis taking up to 2 grams a day...on my worst day i easily used 4 grams weed is surely a boredom drug. Fasting triggered my psychosis i don't recommend fasting to anyone
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I don't to seem have any improvements but i noticed my skin and hair is less greasy and i smell less like invega. I can also sense there is something out there..i feel there is stimuli but i cannot properly perceive it. I can definitly feel emotions because i feel really bad about past mistakes
Dont you think it was the weed that caused the psychosis not the fasting. Weed is what gave me psychosis. I was smoking a gram a day everyday in the summmer of 2015 with a buddy of mine then i started hearing voices. I thought i was being watched all the time that my phone was communicating with me. It was bad. I really regret smoking weed back then. It sucks that hearing voices is a pernament thing but what can you do. I wish it didnt pernamently result in me hearing voices because i had a bright future ahead of me. I was working out everyday. Eating healthy. Studying the rest of the time and smoking weed everyday. Man how i regret i was smoking weed. If i could go back in time i would have never touched the stuff cause i didnt know it could cause hearing voices into ppl and then you end up on shitty drugs. Its hard to remenber but i have to remember that i feel like shit cause of the meds im on and not because of psychosis and weed. These meds sre worse then the disease. I could live with hearing voices i really can. But living while feeling like shit from meds is aomething that is very hard to do. Im just waiting and hoping this new medication coming out will be good for not making us feel like shit. Im still young so if this new medication can help it can make life still worthwhile living.
 
Pychosis caused 2 times by fasting. First time i got sick and couldn't eat anything for 2 week and only drank minor amounts of orange juice and milk. After those 2 weeks i started to get severely psychotic. The second time i fasted 4 or 5 days every week for 1.5 months straight. I was getting delusions that i had to get into a psych ward to fast there because it had magical properties doing so then i lied to the shrink in order to get into the psych ward and fast. My psychosis got cured instantly when i drank a good amount of soda and ate custard, the sugars basically snapped me out of the hypoglycemia...still had to take invega in order to get out of the ward.

I never got psychosis from psychedelics i only get delusional ideas during psychosis. Only one time when i tried 4-FMA...fluoromethamphetamine i got stimulant psychosis, its nasty as hell.

my imagination is still limited and not as lively but it's back i can sense minor improvements. everything still sucks tho
 
I'm over 4,5 months off...right now difficulty with dealing with the whole history of psychosis. I keep ruminating over past mistakes i made..making the descision to live at family was the worst descision they called the insane asylum. I should have went home go into bed lit some candles and take some cbd oil...this what wat i used to do for many years. I kept making mistakes and did not think anything through at all. Once the sedation lifts and you can think clearly a bit you get into rumination land because for so long all emotions were blocked by invega. I'm heavily abusing cannabis taking up to 2 grams a day...on my worst day i easily used 4 grams weed is surely a boredom drug. Fasting triggered my psychosis i don't recommend fasting to anyone
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I don't to seem have any improvements but i noticed my skin and hair is less greasy and i smell less like invega. I can also sense there is something out there..i feel there is stimuli but i cannot properly perceive it. I can definitly feel emotions because i feel really bad about past mistakes
I can't stop ruminating over past mistakes also, it seems nearly my whole life is mostly regrets now, this has happened because antipsychotics cause you to become stagnant in life so because they stopped my life I've ended up constantly thinking of the past, I'd rather be full of life again and move on.
 
Yeah something like antipsychotic drugs even existing is hard to believe if you were never on them. You wouldnt think a drug would make you have no energy and feel like shit all the time. Its like living in a nightmare. I wanna get off them but im on a CTO. Which means im forced to take them. I wanna get off them so badly so i dont hsve to experience the feeling of shit anymore. Psychiatry is the onlh field of medicine where they force you to take medication as opposed to having free will of being medicated or not. Were dupposed to have a right to refuse treatment but it dosnt apply to antipsychotic drugs.
It’s scary to think that a select group of so called “professionals” sit around in a room and together create and decide laws that dictate what can or can’t happen to people who display mental health concerns. These mental health professionals, most of them are biased and brainwashed by the pharmaceutical industry. When you go and have a session with the psychiatrist for example, in my experience it’s very cookie cutter scenario. They already have an agenda in mind when it comes to treating their patients. Most of the questions they ask you about how you are doing are not genuine. It’s just a formality they use while in their minds they think they have you figured out. We the patients, have very little control over the outcome in regards to choosing “treatment options”. For example, I was put onto the Invega Sustenna injection because my perception of my reality did not fit inside the box of what the medical system has deemed acceptable to their version of reality. This is dangerous because essentially if you don’t fit into their predetermined set of what constitutes normalcy, your categorized into having some sort of mental health condition. In my opinion what could really help the way most cases are handled is if the medical professionals adopted spirituality and science together to form a more thorough understanding of what they call mental illness. Another example if you tell the doctor you are in contact with spirit guides and they give you guidance in certain areas of your life and that guidance is healing helpful and positive and has allowed you to make positive life changes well then you are just classified as schizophrenic or under a drug induced psychosis. Not every case is the same though, but I was tested for schizophrenia and it came back negative but they still didn’t understand my belief system so I was forced to take medication.
 
I just wanted to share also, for those of us concerned with brain damage from antipsychotics; meditation has been scientifically proven to thicken parts of the brain that the drugs affect, and can cause neurogenesis and parts of the brain to grow bigger with consistent practice. In my recovery process at almost 12 months off the Invega injection, I’ve started meditation almost every day and have 100% noticed improvements in brain function. Sending positive vibes and healing to everyone going through challenges with their health right now because of the drugs.
 
I'd like to know if I'll get my physical fitness and strength back again, I was a very fit person. I had 8 antipsychotic injections over 1 year period the last was nearly 6 months ago, now I've had to live as a sedentary person for a year and a half, I feel old and elderly before my time. I'm wondering if antipsychotics age you at a cellular level, I hope not, I feel so old like it's the end of my life and I'm just waiting for death.
 
I'd like to know if I'll get my physical fitness and strength back again, I was a very fit person. I had 8 antipsychotic injections over 1 year period the last was nearly 6 months ago, now I've had to live as a sedentary person for a year and a half, I feel old and elderly before my time. I'm wondering if antipsychotics age you at a cellular level, I hope not, I feel so old like it's the end of my life and I'm just waiting for death.
I too was wondering this same question. At first around 3 months off the shot, walking was very difficult. I could barely walk to the gym. At 6 months walking improved, was easier to do, but still heavy feeling in muscles and body. At 9 months walking got even better, still heavy feeling in body and muscles, pulling the rowing machine was very challenging. Now at 12 months, I can feel strength slowly starting to return to my muscles and can walk up to 2 hours comfortably. I can also lift weights and notice the weak feeling isn’t as pronounced as it was. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I know the struggle of going through this stage and wondering if it will ever improve. I had 7 injections total.
 
I too was wondering this same question. At first around 3 months off the shot, walking was very difficult. I could barely walk to the gym. At 6 months walking improved, was easier to do, but still heavy feeling in muscles and body. At 9 months walking got even better, still heavy feeling in body and muscles, pulling the rowing machine was very challenging. Now at 12 months, I can feel strength slowly starting to return to my muscles and can walk up to 2 hours comfortably. I can also lift weights and notice the weak feeling isn’t as pronounced as it was. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I know the struggle of going through this stage and wondering if it will ever improve. I had 7 injections total.
did you have psychosis and is that why you got put on antipsychotics?
 
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