Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

[Las Veghost grower]

Yes, but it's not.

Yes it is…obviously…if the survivability for the unvaxed is above 99% then how can the vaccine give you more then a percent increase ? See it’s pretty stupid when you look at it like that

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yes it is…obviously…if the survivability for the unvaxed is above 99% then how can the vaccine give you more then a percent increase ? See it’s pretty stupid when you look at it like that

even with omicron the vaccine is making people infected 70% less likely to be hospitalised.

have you seen xray images of vaccinated vs unvaccinated?

some here:

X-rays show how Covid damages lungs of unvaccinated patients

The lungs of vaccinated patients are far less damaged.

metro.co.uk

not gonna recover from that for a while. but you survived so that's all that matters according to you guys, even if hospitalisation disables you and bankrupts you (in the US, over here we'll probably just be left to die in a corridor if hospitalisations keep increasing the way they are right now)

 

[Las Veghost grower]

even with omicron the vaccine is making people infected 70% less likely to be hospitalised.

have you seen xray images of vaccinated vs unvaccinated?

some here:

X-rays show how Covid damages lungs of unvaccinated patients

The lungs of vaccinated patients are far less damaged.

metro.co.uk

not gonna recover from that for a while. but you survived so that's all that matters according to you guys, even if hospitalisation disables you and bankrupts you (in the US, over here we'll probably just be left to die in a corridor if hospitalisations keep increasing the way they are right now)

Well atleast your not debating it’s increase of survivability, bottom line if you want the shots and think it’s worth it get the shots, but don’t try to force it on me by denying my natural immunity and removing my right to work/shop ect…

 

[Deleted member 521610]

even with omicron the vaccine is making people infected 70% less likely to be hospitalised.

have you seen xray images of vaccinated vs unvaccinated?

some here:

X-rays show how Covid damages lungs of unvaccinated patients

The lungs of vaccinated patients are far less damaged.

metro.co.uk

not gonna recover from that for a while. but you survived so that's all that matters according to you guys, even if hospitalisation disables you and bankrupts you (in the US, over here we'll probably just be left to die in a corridor if hospitalisations keep increasing the way they are right now)

most people are fine and their lungs plus omicron does not affect the lungs only delta and other variants do

 

[Jabberwocky]

Well atleast your not debating it’s increase of survivability, bottom line if you want the shots and think it’s worth it get the shots, but don’t try to force it on me by denying my natural immunity and removing my right to work/shop ect…

don't pretend it doesn't impact anyone else. if you promise not to go to hospital and take a bed from someone who is not there due to their own refusal of a vaccine then fine. beds being full and doctors being tired impacts everyone who needs to use health services.

your rights are contingent on you meeting your responsibilities. in this case, your responsibility to choose not to be a danger to the public.

i don't actually think its fair to stop you going into shops where you'll only be 5 mins. but your co workers and people working in places where you will be for a long time without a mask have the right not to be at needless risk of a transmissible disease.

i think there should be an option for people who have been infected to pay for tests to prove they have acquired immunity as an alternative.

most people are fine and their lungs plus omicron does not affect the lungs only delta and other variants do

omicron affected my lungs, still is, and it is known to by the doctors treating me. cos i have to redo every single fucking test they have done on me- about 4 hours of different things- now that i've had it because it might impact my diagnosis and treatment. the NHS doesn't give that shit out without good reason.

yes, it has less of an effect on lungs, but you categorically stated 'does not.' this is not true.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

don't pretend it doesn't impact anyone else. if you promise not to go to hospital and take a bed from someone who is not there due to their own refusal of a vaccine then fine. beds being full and doctors being tired impacts everyone who needs to use health services.

your rights are contingent on you meeting your responsibilities. in this case, your responsibility to choose not to be a danger to the public.

i don't actually think its fair to stop you going into shops where you'll only be 5 mins. but your co workers and people working in places where you will be for a long time without a mask have the right not to be at needless risk of a transmissible disease.

i think there should be an option for people who have been infected to pay for tests to prove they have acquired immunity as an alternative.


omicron affected my lungs, still is, and it is known to by the doctors treating me. cos i have to redo every single fucking test they have done on me- about 4 hours of different things- now that i've had it because it might impact my diagnosis and treatment. the NHS doesn't give that shit out without good reason.

yes, it has less of an effect on lungs, but you categorically stated 'does not.' this is not true.

Please, don’t act like vaccinated people don’t get and transmit the disease too…but your vaxed and have lung problems from omicron, I’m not vaxed and totally fine…yea I’ll take my position everyday if the week

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

even with omicron the vaccine is making people infected 70% less likely to be hospitalised.

have you seen xray images of vaccinated vs unvaccinated?

some here:

X-rays show how Covid damages lungs of unvaccinated patients

The lungs of vaccinated patients are far less damaged.

metro.co.uk

don't tell me you're buying that


do you know how many variables are at play here?

if they were twins and they lived next door to each other and did the same exact things everyday, then yea maybe

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i see a lot of cardiomegaly in those films too

that's really what they have in common

they're both obese

 

[Jabberwocky]

Please, don’t act like vaccinated people don’t get and transmit the disease too…

i said needless risk. vaccinated people have done what they can to minimise it and we can't be locked up forever. unvaccinated people who are medically eligible have not.

but your vaxed and have lung problems from omicron, I’m not vaxed and totally fine…yea I’ll take my position everyday if the week

i have lung problems because i spent 6 year with continuous respitatory depression due to heroin addiction, and for some of that time i was smoking at least an 8th of crack per day. if you read anywhere else in the forum, you would know i've been having investigations into these since long before i got covid. now i have to do them all again before i can get my full diagnosis and treatment.

every respiratory virus that comes round exacerbates my symptoms, which is why i have been meticulous in avoiding covid. i got it from someone who had 2 negative tests before i saw them, including one on the day. i'm glad that i was vaccinated as my clinical outcome would have been much poorer otherwise.

i know you guys think that it doesn't matter that i'm ill because it was my own fault for using poor coping mechanisms and thus having poor health in the first place. but i've worked my fucking arse off to recover and think i now make a positive contribution to society. as i expect most people who you guys write off do.

they're both obese

while obesity does certainly contribute to poor outcomes from covid, that is not why they were both in hospitalised and x rayed. that is one picture, you can disagree with it as much as you like. the data are clear that vaccination reduces death and hospitalisation and improves clinical outcomes.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

while obesity does certainly contribute to poor outcomes from covid, that is not why they were both in hospitalised and x rayed. that is one picture, you can disagree with it as much as you like. the data are clear that vaccination reduces death and hospitalisation and improves clinical outcomes.

maybe the data from 6 months ago

but right now, you're better off not being vaxxed than being vaxxed (true story)

 

[Jabberwocky]

maybe the data from 6 months ago

but right now, you're better off not being vaxxed than being vaxxed (true story)

ok then. post the data from now that validates your position. actual data, not some random news article.

and please read it before posting, don't just go off the headline, cos you know when i click your stuff it usually claims the opposite of what you say it does and its starting to make you look a bit silly.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

ya know who's getting vaccinated right now?

not the unvaccinated....

 

[Deleted member 521610]

i don't write people off for their health choices cause i have fucked my own lungs by smoking for over 13 years. Im vaxed but the vax almost killed me and has personally disabled my heart.

So the nwo and plandemic can go to fucking hell im done with the bullshit mainstream narrative i know the truth and many others do aswell

 

[Las Veghost grower]

This is such a pointless argument the people who have bought into it all and taken the vaccine/boosters will take that to the grave and never even consider that most the data is bullshit, maybe when the FDA has to release the data on approval it will open some eyes, but probably not…everything is a coincidence

 

[birdup]

There is no reason to assume that "most of the data is bullshit" but even if it is bullshit, why would you believe other data and where is this other data?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

it's at the database in the mainframe

 

[birdup]

Where? SkyNet?

 

[Jabberwocky]

never even consider that most the data is bullshit,

source? like can you actually give us an argument instead of making an unsupported statement?

There is no reason to assume that "most of the data is bullshit" but even if it is bullshit, why would you believe other data and where is this other data?

i was going to ask this.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

source? like can you actually give us an argument instead of making an unsupported statement?


i was going to ask this.

LOOK AROUND YOU…for fuck sakes….

 

[Las Veghost grower]

At this point every single unvaccinated person who has had covid that I know had a flue for a couple days to a week then are totally fine, all the people I know that have died or in hospital are all vaccinated, and I know I’m not the only person with this happening around them…or maybe it’s just coincidence