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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Negentropic said:
nah I believe you guys, I'm sure about 1000 young males out of 1 million who get a 2nd shot might have some issues

I really don't think the vaccines are without issue or anything like that. I think you SHOULD think about if it's right for you for now.



yeah, we chatted about it

it seemed to be a bit worse for him iirc

me, it would happen like maybe 1-2 times per day, sometimes none at all, for 2-3 weeks afterwards.

and again, it was just like a brain zap - it was so quick you almost questioned it if happened - but it was pretty strong vertigo, just instantaneous... like a rogue brain wave or something idk... nothing i've ever experienced before tbh

but it was pretty weird and and I wonder what caused it.

but it went away completely after 3 weeks or so and never experienced it again
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I did find this, which says 5 out of 30 people in the study described having Vertigo within 30 days after vax. I'm going to text myself to research this more when I'm sober.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Otologic Manifestations After COVID-19 Vaccination: The House Ear Clinic Experience - PubMed

There are no definite correlations to the COVID-19 pandemic or vaccination and new or worsened otologic symptoms. Vaccinated patients with new or exacerbated otologic symptoms should be promptly referred for evaluation. Suspected cases of post-vaccination otologic symptoms should be reported to...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
see, I can confirm that man

I just don't think people are dying from it, my mind recoils

flux
my rhino licked the racoon
ahh...
we must not discount the actualities
the total reality of our existence
the rich want us to live one way
when many ways exist
we are all small bitter people
declaimers against reality
part of the whole





and that's about enough beer for me tonight
 
Negentropic said:
see, I can confirm that man

I just don't think people are dying from it, my mind recoils

flux
my rhino licked the racoon
ahh...
we must not discount the actualities
the total reality of our existence
the rich want us to live one way
when many ways exist
we are all small bitter people
declaimers against reality
part of the whole





and that's about enough beer for me tonight
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well there's your problem dude, you should never leave the rhino alone with the racoon.

i hope the vertigo is not symptom of something more serious, i would be concerned personally but i only get vertigo when looking down from really really high up and that's just if i have to keep my balance at the same time. life can be ironic.

as for the myocarditis, there are i think images of it on wikipedia. the black spots are necrosis. if you are familiar with gangrene... yeah... i'm not sure about how recovery goes for myocarditis, but gangrene recovery typically involves cutting off the affected body part.

anyway, i have posted earlier the meta analysis done on all-cause mortality

Covid-19 - The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Doesn’t that article strongly work against the conspiracy theories regarding vaccination that have currency amongst some members here? It seems to indicate that vaccination guidelines are being actively managed by the authorities to maximise safety in specific sub-populations as more data...
bluelight.org bluelight.org

which seems to suggest pretty strongly that the pandemic was virtually a non-event for [healthy] people <40. the death rate for COVID, which is similar to the rates of myocarditis, is for the entire population.

so, if you consider the myocarditis rates against that, then the picture is simply that these vaccines are doing more harm than good for the <40 population. yet, the governments are still pushing them, and still advertising (WTF?) getting vaccinated and boosted for the young.
 
Originally my opinion was go get vaccinated, why not, since I've never had a reason not to. Had the virus early but it couldn't hurt.

Then I started running into reasons so I hesitated, girl I knew died from the vaccine. Fire season broke out and I went to work on a support crew. When I came back some one had passed an unreasonable law forcing people to take these vaccines.

I will never get past knowing someone to die from this activity. For me the risk is palpable and the need is arguably negative, at best unnecesary.

My argument on numbers is more how to do your own math, since I can't find the Holy and True data only moderators and pro vaccine people have access to these hidden but true numbers. If more than 65 people per million are being hospitalized/week with breakthroughs the vaccine can not mathimatically ever provide herd immunity.

This is really important since the laws closing boarders and forcing many of us out of work were brought in to stop the spread and bring herd immunity. Niether can happen yet and until a new vaccine is ready to go these laws are just divisive measures causing the population to fight while our real enemy is laughing and weakening our nations.

Don't hate on me because I don't believe what the media, government and big pharma are saying. Look around and see what is really happening for yourself. Lots of idiots are pointing at stupid conspiracies, some of these are distractions, some of these are stupid. Look at what is changing in your life and be ready to catch the people at the bottom. Our leadership will kill off a lot of less successful humans because they fear their system is failing and totalitarian control is happening right now.
 
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Foreigner said:
My cousin dropped dead during hockey practice recently. He was 20. No prior health conditions, only change in his status was that he got a booster shot.

The "follow the science" types can feign ignorance all they want, but the writing is on the wall. The scientific institutions are being corrupted via the regulatory bodies, who themselves have been infiltrated by big corporate interests.

There will be justice for this. I won't forget, neither will my family. A lot of people are being wronged and the the truth WILL come out.
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Sorry for your loss. Out of curiosity, was your cousin using any other substances either recreationally or for sport? I only ask bc the intensity at which hockey is played in such short bursts has been known to trigger a number of heart issues, sometimes even triggering underlying conditions that would otherwise never be known. https://syndication.bleacherreport....ing-concern-for-young-hockey-players.amp.html

Hockey players also tend to trend towards degeneracy (alcohol, cocaine, pain killers, etc.) All of which can also have an impact on heart health. I remember a top notch pitcher in high school dying at 17 on the treadmill bc he'd been snacking on ephedra to help focus both on and off the field. Nobody had a clue he was using that stuff until it showed up in tox report.

I am not saying that without a doubt it was something like that, just that it's impossible to know really.
alasdairm said:
did he get the same booster shot as his initial two shots?

alasdair
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chinup said:
its irrelevant. i had 2 friends drop dead at 20 from natural causes. its fucking horrendous but they were confirmed as such in post mortems.

but a) i seriously doubt they are telling the truth here and b) they did not state anything regarding the cause of death, other than their observation re the booster. i don't know my cousins that well, they could be doing fucking anything.

funny thing is neither myself nor any "follow the science" guys has ignored anything. multiple people in my social network have died of covid or have longterm complications, one had a minor complication following the now pulled AZ vaccine. so even my own tiny sample backs the views i have developed based on keeping up to date with data. its the 'vaccine hesitant' who are because at this point they surely either live under a rock or have ignored serious problems due to covid in many people they know.

everyone i know who isn't up to date on vaccines just dropped dead of covid. except they didn't. anecdotes aren't evidence. you can say anything on the internet.
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I've tried reading this a handful of times and I still am not sure what you're trying to say...

I think it's that you believe the authorities are hiding information and/or covering up for the fact that these "vaccines" are possibly causing harm.

The next paragraph is trickier, but I think you're saying that the 'vaccine hesitant' are ignoring information? But I can't be sure if there is some sarcasm in the end there...

I'm 'vaccine hesitant' but only bc the one time I got the flu vaccine, I got sick both from the shot and later that winter (normally it's a ~33% chance that I get sick each year, I only got the flu vax that year to please my mother). I'm currently unvaccinated from covid, and haven't been sick, have gotten tested regularly and so far nothing. I go to work daily, exposed to the public at great lengths and nobody in contact with me has been sick from me (asymptomatic or whatnot). A few of my colleagues have had it, my daughter was exposed twice at daycare and even though she was sick the days after she never tested positive for it and I never fell I'll. I personally won't get vaccinated until my daughter can get vaccinated and even then I don't think I want either one of us to get a shot that is maybe 65% effective (is that even considered an effective vaccine?) My wife has gotten the first round plus a booster and after the booster was very ill for 4 days. Yea, I'll just take my natural immune response tyvm.


alasdairm said:
indeed.

i asked because, if it was the same, my first question would be why did he not have the fatal reaction to the first 2 shots?

alasdair
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It's my understanding that there has been some mishandling and lack of care in the rush to bring these drugs to market and get the -survey-
experimental money rolling in. Some have not been stored correctly, some have not been produced correctly, some might need to build up in the body to a certain degree before adverse effects are noticeable. I can eat .5g of mushrooms and feel great but if I eat 5g in the silent darkness I'm going to have some difficulties or hardships to work through.

Anecdotally speaking, scuba's three shots were all the same. Shot one and two had nothing more than sore arm and minor fatigue (she's also pregnant so probably more to do with that). Third shot she ran a fever for 4 days, threw up (in the 4 years I've known her she has thrown up 1 time before this) on day one and 2, then diarrhea, for days 1-4, had to get hooked up to IV fluids bc nothing would stay down. Idk, again anecdotally speaking and I'm a jackass but that makes good enough sense to me
 
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there is so much anecdotal material being exchanged it's impossible to know what it's value is, if anything at all...

i have heard many stories of people describing multiple members of the same family suffering adverse reactions to the vaccine and even people who know two or five or ten people who died subsequent to their vaccination.

all these stories seem to come from people who staunchly oppose vaccination.

as the saying goes, you do the math...

alasdair
 
Oh yea, I get it. I'm not trying to convince anyone one way or the other. I don't know anyone who's actually gotten covid after vaccination. In fact I still don't know many people who've had it. Of the people close to me who have had it, thankfully none have been serious cases.

I think it's kind of hard to trust the data to make a reliable, logical, conclusion. When so much of it is being used to serve a purpose, either politically or financially. So all I can go off of is my personal experience and so far it's done me and my family well.

I think everyone should have the choice whether they want to get it or not. Just as I think businesses should have the right to require vaccination to use their services.
 
Every day people are permentally disabled world wide from this bullshit vaccine and the mass cover up.

I hope when we topple this entire system we lock up every fucking person who forced this vax agenda on us and the fucking clean house with the communist agenda in the academic world.
 
Foreigner said:
I don't waste time on trolls, especially when evidence was presented and still dismissed.

I posted links. People are free to disagree, but they have to say how, and refute posted evidence. That didn't happen.

You can make fun of my mental state all you like but it doesn't refute the links I posted. Try again.
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Last time I checked and was on this thread and what started this shit show between you and I:

Was about your cousin. I don't know what fucking evidence you're referring to in your last message (as quoted above).


And the below does not constitute evidence of anything and I have no idea what links you are referring to as they pertain to this particular issue:

Foreigner said:
He had no prior heart conditions, or any health conditions. Totally healthy. Died of a heart attack on ice.

Everyone, even his doctors, are drawing the same conclusion.
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As for trolling: ya think I don't have better things to do than troll some fucking science student? But I do have loads of time and the inclination available to troll those talking shit, furthering false narratives, and aiding and abetting the spread of conspiracy theories and what can be harmful information if interpreted or presented incorrectly which is EXACTLY the case with your post on this issue.
 
www.naturalnews.com

Why are covid outbreaks still happening in professional sports if the athletes are all vaccinated?

Nearly every professional athlete is now fully vaccinated for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19), and yet new "cases" of the disease are reportedly soaring within the industry. OutKick's Clay Davis says that the NFL is 95 percent vaccinated, the NBA is 97 percent vaccinated, the NHL
www.naturalnews.com www.naturalnews.com


Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield expressed his disapproval over the new rules, which continue to contradict previous rules that were supposedly “science-based.”


“Make up your damn mind on protocols,” Mayfield wrote. “Showing up and making only 3 teams test?!? All so you can keep the game as scheduled to make money.”


“Actually caring about player safety would mean delaying the game with this continuing at the rate it is … But to say you won’t test vaccinated players if they don’t have symptoms, then to pull this randomly. Doesn’t make any sense to me.”


San Francisco 49ers fullback Kyle Juszczyk likewise spoke out against the abrupt new changes, saying that there are “definitely frustrations” within the league about them.

“So it’s ok to test positive today, then test negative tomorrow right before the game, and still play … if you’ve been vaccinated? Even though the people around you who have been getting sick were mostly vaccinated before they got covid?” wrote another about how none of this makes any logical sense.
 
Ah well. Some new data coming our way. Israel starting tests today with fourth jab (will post better information from the BBC on what they're testing for and why):

www.reuters.com

Israeli hospital launches first test of second COVID-19 booster

An Israeli hospital administered fourth COVID-19 vaccine doses to a test group of health workers on Monday, in what it called the first major study into whether a second round of boosters will help contend with the fast-spreading Omicron variant.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
TripSitterNZ said:
Every day people are permentally disabled world wide from this bullshit vaccine and the mass cover up.

I hope when we topple this entire system we lock up every fucking person who forced this vax agenda on us and the fucking clean house with the communist agenda in the academic world.
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Again with the Communists! No Gulags in your post today? And for the second time: who is this "we"? You're on your own there mate. And besides with the way things are going I may be busy posting about Ukraine. Arguably should we reach that point: the vaccines and conspiracy theories and cover ups may not be that important anymore
 
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Foreigner said:
It's the government tearing us apart, not the virus.

The vaccine doesn't work. Omicron proves that. In fact, the overwhelming majority of people in hospitals now are the vaccinated.
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just buy ivermectin, send me $200, i delivery usa phmacy gradear
 
alasdairm said:
there is so much anecdotal material being exchanged it's impossible to know what it's value is, if anything at all...

i have heard many stories of people describing multiple members of the same family suffering adverse reactions to the vaccine and even people who know two or five or ten people who died subsequent to their vaccination.

all these stories seem to come from people who staunchly oppose vaccination.

as the saying goes, you do the math...

alasdair
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Yup. That's what sets off my own BS meter as well. I live in one of the most highly-vaccinated areas of the US. I think we're over 85% now for adults, and close to 80% if you include the kids. I literally can't think of anyone I know who's not vaccinated... and just one who was stubborn and waited a few months. My second shot and booster both gave me hangovers that made me glad I got them on Fridays. But this year's flu shot was actually worse for me. Some friends who had Moderna (I had Pfizer) had worse hangovers than I did. But no one's dropped dead, or had their testicles swell up to grapefruit-size, or become autistic, or birthed an autistic child, or showed any signs of stigmata or the mark of the beast, or any of the other hyperbolic nastiness that... somehow... only seems to affect friends of the anti-vaxers. The worst any of us got from the shots was a crummy weekend.
 
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