Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[birdup]

Great post.

Love the new avatar.

 

[AutoTripper]

that's a matter of opinion.

but that's also not the question i asked. i'm asking @AutoTripper if he accepts the possibility that the whole chemtrail theory is nonsense?

alasdair

I can't believe you actually re-asked this question. It's downright patronising as it's utterly rhetorical (or is that the other way round mm?)



Yes. Ofc I accept that your imagination is so limited and programmed that to your eyes and billions of others, ^ THIS is entirely natural, innocent, water vapour jet exhaust.

You suggest I overreact or wrongly accuse you of being pedantic, sarcastic and immature.

You KNOW I do NOT accept, for a millisecond, that the Chemtrail theory is just nonsense.

I have spelt it out dozens of times. My position is clear.

Seriously only a troll would ask me the rhetorical question I have so answered, not just once but twice.

I am real. I will not entertain unreal discussion. I try to make it real. Or hop out.

 

[birdup]

@AutoTripper

I have personally never seen anything like that.

Nobody I have ever met has ever seen anything like that.

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper

I have personally never seen anything like that.

Nobody I have ever met has ever seen anything like that.

I have. Many hundreds of times. All diff types of shit. The entire sky plastered from horizon to horizon. Freakily unnatural.

Like those two images there, it can start off 11 am clear blue sky (back in 2016 when it appeared the programme massively ramped up here in my UK area, 1st March actually, as the sky is never blue now. It's grown very milky. Tonnes and tonnes of Nano and allsorts in those technological chemical potions, and in less than one hour then from a pure clear sky in every direction, the sky is covered by gigantic trails, which continuously spread out and turn into an eerie cloud film blanket without a gap.

I actually avoid looking at the sky. Because it's either confirmation yes the bastards are still up there spraying the shit out of Earth, or it's like- oh! No chemtrails today. Nice! (Like yeah, let's feel good they don't see need strategically to remove all our natural sky and sun TODAY. Sure they'll be back tomorrow.

People say so dimly and naively- what imaginable purpose? Well....many! Mass I mean MASS distribution of Nano into the Earth. It's every-freaking-where in and out of us, A.I. works though, is channelled through, enlivened by Nanotech.

So all the frequency technology, 5G, anything technological thrust upon our species and plane, is connected.

Including (is an understating word here) Covid.

But then, for the ordinary, common man, there are plenty of reasons and purposes which do make sense.
There are also hundreds maybe thousands of patents for these technologies.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Great post.

Love the new avatar.

I'm not joking here.
Why you make a joke of it is beyond me, please tell me what the effects to humans ar from taking this mRNA "vaccine" 2 years, 4 years and finally 10 years later.

I also welcome @chinup to post ANY evidence what this vaccine in its mRNA form does to humans 2,4 & 10 years after taking it.

If it's been around for so long like chinup says it will be easy to post.

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper

I have personally never seen anything like that.

Nobody I have ever met has ever seen anything like that.

^ my garden 2016. Notice the conduction of H.A.A.R.P.'s EMF ripples.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Go to church if your scared. It’s scientifically proven you can still transmit covid after vaccination.

the data strongly imply (proof is not within the purview of science, that's maths) that your chances of transmitting covid after vaccination are much smaller than prior to vaccination. in addition to reducing your likelihood of being hospitalised or dying from covid.

So is the new omicron variant needing a new whole vaccine or it applies to the one's already on market?

we don't know yet, more data needed. there are reasons to cautiously hopeful about this one though.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Lisa Shaw: Presenter's death due to complications of Covid vaccine

Lisa Shaw developed headaches shortly after being vaccinated against Covid-19, an inquest hears.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

"
Newcastle coroner Karen Dilks heard Ms Shaw suffered blood clots in the brain which ultimately led to her death.
The inquest heard the condition linked to the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was very rare.
The coroner said: "Lisa died due to complications of an AstraZeneca Covid vaccination."
Ms Dilks said Ms Shaw was previously fit and well but concluded that it was "clearly established" that her death was due to a very rare "vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia", a condition which leads to swelling and bleeding of the brain."

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Also why was the Oxford University / AZ vaccine removed from the UK vaccine list?

It's NOT on any booster shot list, I wonder why if it's safe & effective?

I guess to you @birdup it's ok for a few to die via blood clots in the brain though. I hope it isn't someone you love who dies that way OR they have a blood clot in the brain but survive, that would cause them to need round the clock care as they wouldn't be able to even have a poo on their own. I'm sure that's fine with you though.

 

[Jabberwocky]

This just dawned upon me today, people who don't want the Spike & T- cell in our body if I was in a car crash etc the blood I'd need has a high chance of being from someone who's had 3 doses.

I wonder where I stand legally with this issue, I don't want "vaccine" blood & prefer to die tbh.

there's groups on facebook talking about the difficulty of how to keep their blood 'pure' i'm sure you'd find some ideas in there.

you do know that heroin and crack cocaine and most of the other shit you ingest is bad for you, right, and you don't know what's in most of it?

why don't you look for the data you request yourself, here's a nice run down:

Human mRNA vaccine trials in the 2010s? A history lesson in animal research

The recent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are the first of their kind, but they weren’t created overnight. RNA itself was discovered in the 1960s. Then, basic research in the 1970s paved the way for va…

speakingofresearch.com

we do not think its OK for a few to die, we would prefer for that not to happen. but we accept it. people died of the smallpox vaccine, would you rather it hadn't been eradicated on that basis?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

First line says "The recent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are the first of their kind"
In a court of law that would be a closed case.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

The BMJ good enough for you @chinup @birdup

But, for researchers who were testing Pfizer’s vaccine at several sites in Texas during that autumn, speed may have come at the cost of data integrity and patient safety. A regional director who was employed at the research organisation Ventavia Research Group has told The BMJ that the company falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer’s pivotal phase III trial. Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding. After repeatedly notifying Ventavia of these problems, the regional director, Brook Jackson, emailed a complaint to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Ventavia fired her later the same day. Jackson has provided The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails.

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

Revelations of poor practices at a contract research company helping to carry out Pfizer’s pivotal covid-19 vaccine trial raise questions about data integrity and regulatory oversight. Paul D Thacker reports In autumn 2020 Pfizer’s chairman and chief executive, Albert Bourla, released an open...

www.bmj.com

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

there's groups on facebook talking about the difficulty of how to keep their blood 'pure' i'm sure you'd find some ideas in there.

you do know that heroin and crack cocaine and most of the other shit you ingest is bad for you, right, and you don't know what's in most of it?

why don't you look for the data you request yourself, here's a nice run down:

Human mRNA vaccine trials in the 2010s? A history lesson in animal research

The recent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are the first of their kind, but they weren’t created overnight. RNA itself was discovered in the 1960s. Then, basic research in the 1970s paved the way for va…

speakingofresearch.com

we do not think its OK for a few to die, we would prefer for that not to happen. but we accept it. people died of the smallpox vaccine, would you rather it hadn't been eradicated on that basis?

I'd like enough data to be known that people having blood clots to the brain doesn't come as a shock to people & we are aware of ALL the risks.

Your heroin comment just backs up my point, heroin is banned as people die from it yet people can die from blood clots in the brain and that is ok.

 

[Jabberwocky]

First line says "The recent mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are the first of their kind"
In a court of law that would be a closed case.

in a court of law you'd read the rest of the evidence, had you done that you would see that the principles underlying these vaccines are the same and that we can make inferences. do you have a specific biological mechanism in mind that you think arises in the COVID vaccines vs the previous mRNA vaccines?

here's the BMJ supporting an accelerated booster program, so get yours ASAP if you respect them as a source, and if you don't, don't post from there, don't cherry pick:

Covid-19: GPs need extra staff and capacity to deliver accelerated booster programme, say leaders

General practice will require extra staff and capacity to offer covid-19 booster vaccines to everyone over the age of 18 by the end of January, primary care leaders have warned. On 30 November, the UK prime minister Boris Johnson announced a major expansion of the booster programme in response...

www.bmj.com

shady shit going on at the start of development does not undermine the longer term, larger sample size data confirming the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine.


we are all aware of the risks. if you had have gone and got your vaccine you would have read the list of risks they provide you, and it includes these under the very rare section.

 

[AutoTripper]

This is data too, to the open eye.

• Many athletes are now losing their careers due to COVID jab injuries. Florian Dagoury is the world record holder in static breath-hold freediving. Before his Pfizer jabs, he was able to hold his breath for 10 minutes and 30 seconds. After his second dose, his diving performance was slashed by about 30%, and he’s been diagnosed with myocarditis, pericarditis and trivial mitral regurgitation
• Others include tennis player Jeremy Chardy and 32-year-old triathlete Antoine Mechin. Both were severely injured by their COVID jabs. Both now regret taking the shot. “Damaging healthy people to preserve the health of the weakest,” Mechin now says, is “a choice of backward logic”
• By any objective measure, the COVID shots are the most dangerous drugs ever launched. The safety signal is absolutely massive
• A troubling effect that isn’t getting the attention it deserves is miscarriage. As of November 19, 2021, 3,071 miscarriages had been reported to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS)

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

"Although reported changes to the menstrual cycle after vaccination are short lived, robust research into this possible adverse reaction remains critical to the overall success of the vaccination programme"

You would think they would know the longer effects of this too, I'm not asking for miracles.

 

[Jabberwocky]

"Although reported changes to the menstrual cycle after vaccination are short lived, robust research into this possible adverse reaction remains critical to the overall success of the vaccination programme"

You would think they would know the longer effects of this too, I'm not asking for miracles.

you are cherry picking quotes.

you are actually asking for a miracle if you want long term (4-10 years by your request) on a vaccine that was developed less than that duration ago. would you prefer people just keep dying preventably while we wait for the data you ask for? or for a permanent lockdown for the next 10 years while your long term data is prepared? or have you not considered these aspects?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

we are all aware of the risks. if you had have gone and got your vaccine you would have read the list of risks they provide you, and it includes these under the very rare section

So it's ok then for people to die, even if it's rare you accept and promote people to run the risk of it by your own words.

As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

you are actually asking for a miracle if you want long term (4-10 years by your request) on a vaccine that was developed less than that duration ago.

So how long does the data in regard to negative effects go back?

As i linked earlier date was faked, by your own words no list of effects is available for a 4 year study & what is out there has been made up.

So post again how mRNA has a long history of use & study cases please.