Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[AutoTripper]

So are you lot "vaxxers" then? It just occured to me that's all. Because I've not looked at it in this blanket sense.

Like F.U.B.A.R. to my eyes and mind, is the same nice guy I met around here nearly 3 years ago.

I know we don't see all things in the world identically that is an understatement but also a testament to something else.

But I was thinking it's kind of okay for us to still "hang out" from time to time.

But now, suddenly I'm worried F.U.B.A.R. might actually be one of those Vaxxers!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Listen up everyone... no one is going to get censored here. We love our right wing friends. You can say whatever you'd like here under a very reasonable condition. No personal insults. It's just not okay. If you feel yourself getting too heated, to the point you're about to focus your words toward the individual rather than the argument at hand, you need to take a break.

I did and i didn't say much other than to make light of a situation from a Sr. Mod who was self-adimttedly drunk posting, harassing and provoking me by telling me to "go for my jugular!" - i said she was chasing me around with a rolling pin, it was deleted, and i was given a point and banned for that?

i thought i handled that situation pretty well under the circumstances

 

[AutoTripper]

i said she was chasing me around with a rolling pin, it was deleted, and i was given a point and banned for that?

So THAT'S how you do it! Right, thanks for the lesson, I (think) Ive got it lol.

 

[Jabberwocky]

This is not the black death. It is comparable to the flu, and that's all it really is.. people getting ill who would have been classed as influenza in another year.

flu killed 25-50 million people in 1918.

and it kills people every year.

and its caused by a virus so i didn't think you believed in it anyway.

its not hatred, its a parody of arguments i've seen in this thread to make a point. some of the arguments put forward by yourself. the logic is the same.

 

[mal3volent]

I did and i didn't say much other than to make light of a situation from a Sr. Mod who was self-adimttedly drunk posting, harassing and provoking me by telling me to "go for my jugular!" - i said she was chasing me around with a rolling pin, it was deleted, and i was given a point and banned for that?

i thought i handled that situation pretty well under the circumstances

You weren't banned purposely, but the points you earn are cumulative.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

And another. Like I said, who is the one advocating harm and who is the one advocating freedom?

The statistics don't lie. This is not the black death. It is comparable to the flu, and that's all it really is.. people getting ill who would have been classed as influenza in another year.

How am I advocating harm if this disease is so 'harmless'?

No, it's not the black death.

But neither is it comparable to the flu. You would understand if you caught it. I knew I had it before I was even tested because it felt very different to the flu. Admittedly, I've had flu that was ten times worse than my covid experience, but it's the unpredictability and longevity of Covid that sets it apart. I didn't die and probably won't if I caught it again. But I got vaccinated simply because I can't afford to be off work for that length of time. Even my worst bouts of flu have only lasted 3 - 5 days. But you're talking weeks with this shit.

 

[Jabberwocky]

if people make claims that i believe to be false in a public forum, which is designed for discussion, i reserve the right to challenge them.

even when inebriated, i am generally capable of making my points clearly and politely even when drunk. i know because i always check the next morning and tbh rate the coherence of my drunk posts higher than that of some of the posts made in this thread soberly.

everyone on here signed the BLUA and should go check whether sexist/racist/homophobic/otherwise bigoted comments are allowed before doing it then complaining about the consequences.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

You weren't banned purposely, but the points you earn are cumulative.

You think that deserved a point?

 

[Jabberwocky]

I wonder if covid mutated to be 100% fatal (or just 20% fatal for the matter), how long people would continue to deny it's danger, it's existence and would continue to believe the vaccine and masks are a bigger threat. Would they completely turn on science and say it was science itself that created covid and is the true evil? The Fauci variation?

also why are there no conspiracies popping up around other vaccines or medications?

 

[mal3volent]

You think that deserved a point?

i think it deserved something. And after you've used up your warnings all that's left are points.

 

[AutoTripper]

How am I advocating harm if this disease is so 'harmless'?

No, it's not the black death.

But neither is it comparable to the flu. You would understand if you caught it. I knew I had it before I was even tested because it felt very different to the flu. Admittedly, I've had flu that was ten times worse than my covid experience, but it's the unpredictability and longevity of Covid that sets it apart. I didn't die and probably won't if I caught it again. But I got vaccinated simply because I can't afford to be off work for that length of time. Even my worst bouts of flu have only lasted 3 - 5 days. But you're talking weeks with this shit.

Proper flu is exactly 6 weeks IME without fail and remarkably on the dot too.

There are numerous "influenzas" around, but true flu hits you because you are way too run down, like the typical cold except it's a higher level of run down.

Which makes it a bit ironic as well, But that is how nature seems to work again IME.

Exactly 5 times since 2014 I've had true 6 week set cycle nfluenza, twice this year already, every time uncannily exactly 6 weeks.

I pointed out the madness yesterday of the actual fact that I've had 12 weeks of influenza in 47 this year like 26% of the time like a monthly subscription of 8 days!

Covid is comparable to flu, but very distinct.

They all are when you really get to know them apart.

Covid is something else. I'm actually relieved to be feeling confident it's the case here because yesterday I had no explanation for various symptoms and general feeling it was as if I was not recovering energy from the recent influenza and injury as well feeling especially tender in the weak areas.

I was completely debilitated why this new virus which didn't make sense but now it does and I'm relieved because it means there is an explanation the acute phase of it will pass as always.

And I wasn't simply "done for" after all. Far from it I just have a second Covid case to observe experience and learn about. It's something to scrap for anyway put it that way it's actually made my life a bit more interestin

My anxiety and irritability has suddenly gone through the roof top again though Covid does this you know it really affects the mind and since you a bit potty and agitated I swear.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

I fucking hate this word 'debunked'. Life is not an episode of mythbusters, and it requires a little bit more than just the reasoning of two random fucksticks on TV to ascertain the truth.

The one thing this crisis has actually taught us is that a lot of people simply can not think on their own and are unable to see what is literally right in front of them. Even when presented with official statistics, which in themselves contradict the official narrative, people still can't see the forest from the trees. There's far too many people who still believe we're dealing with some sort of bubonic plague when it is nothing of the sort. Not only that, but they are actually willing to put other peoples freedom and well-being, including that of the children, secondary to their belief of a deadly pandemic.. total and utterly immoral, and they are total failures of human beings.

Hehe, fuckstick , good word

 

[Las Veghost grower]

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i think it deserved something. And after you've used up your warnings all that's left are points

Come on now, krinks is one of the pack, he deserved infinite warnings

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

I wonder if covid mutated to be 100% fatal (or just 20% fatal for the matter), how long people would continue to deny it's danger, it's existence and would continue to believe the vaccine and masks are a bigger threat. Would they completely turn on science and say it was science itself that created covid and is the true evil? The Fauci variation?

also why are there no conspiracies popping up around other vaccines or medications?

There will always be people who will deny the patently bleeding obvious.

Charlatans and heretics have always existed.

Anti vaxxers are nothing new either - they've been around as long as vaccines. Just look at the MMR debacle where stupid parents were risking their children's health on the say so of Andrew Wakefield who had his own agenda and was subsequently struck off the medical register for being an utter prick.

 

[AutoTripper]

also why are there no conspiracies popping up around other vaccines or medications?

There are there always have been except no nutcase or team of them has ever tried to force one particularly gambly and unknown vaccine with proven potential to cause all degree of significant harm and beyond upon the entire global population so this is probably the reason for that lol.

I am with you though that it's just nonsensical and blind sighted to continue to deny that it is a real and separate and new thing in our society I testify this firmly from direct personal experience, and matching diagnosis.

It just doesn't get everybody it completely bypasses many and for a lot it's so mild and they have the fortune of not developing long Covid because their immune systems are adequate enough it basically just requires a sufficiently working immune system and it's unlikely to be any major threat.

Messed up immunity, or a weak spot, and it's a stray bullet can lead anywhere.

But I will never support the vaccination agenda for lots and lots of different reasons personal and general they have been discussed and extolled not by myself but the more real world "antis" around here.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I wonder if covid mutated to be 100% fatal (or just 20% fatal for the matter), how long people would continue to deny it's danger, it's existence and would continue to believe the vaccine and masks are a bigger threat. Would they completely turn on science and say it was science itself that created covid and is the true evil? The Fauci variation?

they'd still claim its a hoax. state sanctioned murder. something of that ilk.

i don't get people's issues with masks at all. i love the idea of not transmitting disease, the evidence i've seen in their favour is very convincing, so i intend to continue wearing one in enclosed spaces indefinitely.

also why are there no conspiracies popping up around other vaccines or medications?

oh there are. a lot of them very offensive to autistic people such as myself.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

So are you lot "vaxxers" then? It just occured to me that's all. Because I've not looked at it in this blanket sense.

Like F.U.B.A.R. to my eyes and mind, is the same nice guy I met around here nearly 3 years ago.

I know we don't see all things in the world identically that is an understatement but also a testament to something else.

But I was thinking it's kind of okay for us to still "hang out" from time to time.

But now, suddenly I'm worried F.U.B.A.R. might actually be one of those Vaxxers!

Yes, I am a 'vaxxer' in as much as I believe vaccinations are generally safer than the disease they are designed to treat.

But I don't believe it should be mandatory - people have the right to choose what they do or don't put into their bodies.

What I don't understand is why some people choose not to take them when the evidence that the benefits outweigh the risks is so overwhelming.


It's also definitely okay for us to still hang out though...

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Well how do we know for a fact the benefits of the vax outweigh the virus in say, 5 years…or even 10…what if a shitload of people start having heart or lung problems or even compromised immune systems…it’s not out of the realm of possibility as far as I know

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Well how do we know for a fact the benefits of the vax outweigh the virus in say, 5 years…or even 10…what if a shitload of people start having heart or lung problems or even compromised immune systems…it’s not out of the realm of possibility as far as I know

Well, if it wasn't for the covid vaccines, there would be an even bigger shitload of people with heart and lung problems and compromised immune systems right NOW, never mind in 5 or 10 years time...

 

[Jabberwocky]

Well how do we know for a fact the benefits of the vax outweigh the virus in say, 5 years…or even 10…what if a shitload of people start having heart or lung problems or even compromised immune systems…it’s not out of the realm of possibility as far as I know

If you were shot in the stomach by a gun would you start guessing "what if this gauze they're using to stop the bleeding has a potential cancer risk?"

It's really easy to come up with hypothetical long term risks but the science shows that to be incredibly unlikely.

So far all the science shows that covid has 10x much more instances of long term side effects.

All science, logic, evidence, reasoning and every point of data shows that covid is way more dangerous than the vaccine. All of it.