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And I won’t be able to tell anyone or brag or be proud of myself out loud at all, or my bullshit won’t work next time because the people close to me will recognize the signs next time.

Peace to you Squeaky. It's good to know I'm not the only one who's stumbling block is any type of get-together where we want to be fun for others, want to have fun for ourselves and often fail to recognise the road we just took until gates are slamming shut behind us.

 

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For withdrawal insomnia I have also used doxylamine succinate, which is OTC everywhere I believe. It's pretty safe to use.

 

[Squeaky]

Peace to you Squeaky. It's good to know I'm not the only one who's stumbling block is any type of get-together where we want to be fun for others, want to have fun for ourselves and often fail to recognise the road we just took until gates are slamming shut behind us.

Yeah. I wasn’t sure what my point was when I wrote that whole story. But family functions are so much easier with a little assistance, until they aren’t.

 

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Yeah. I wasn’t sure what my point was when I wrote that whole story. But family functions are so much easier with a little assistance, until they aren’t.

Choosing the words to describe to another, helps us explain to ourselves, then hope for understanding.

 

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I'm closing in on that two week mark, thirteenth day today, bupe patch changed this morning, trying to make them last.
Last week was so very many months ago, wasn't it?

 

[Nas47]

I'm closing in on that two week mark, thirteenth day today, bupe patch changed this morning, trying to make them last.
Last week was so very many months ago, wasn't it?

How often change -a week?They re slow release.Thwre is even somewhere a monthly inj. Or depot-once monthly

 

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How often change -a week?They re slow release.Thwre is even somewhere a monthly inj. Or depot-once monthly

Seven day patches for pain management.
Getting bupe made me careless, thought it was OK to use every day because I'd be on bupe either way and it could catch me.
It catches me, but a low safety net still hurts when you fall from a height.

 

[Nas47]

Seven day patches for pain management.
Getting bupe made me careless, thought it was OK to use every day because I'd be on bupe either way and it could catch me.
It catches me, but a low safety net still hurts when you fall from a height.

Careful.Patches are good enough for chronic pain management

 

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Pain, is essential. Never lose sight of this. Be careful with painkillers.

Really, you only want to numb or soften the sensation of pain.

Lemmings would not go far in this world on PCP.

Things hurt for a good purpose, and a reason too.

This is true, until the body goes wrong.
Sometimes the body keeps you on the highest alert of pain and danger even when the potential for more damage from that particular injury is years in the past. I'd an operation age 40, for example. No pain at the time because they had to cut through the main nerve in the area to get the tumor out in one piece.
Eleven years later the nerves are still knitting themselves together and it hurts like hell sometimes, this negatively impacts my relationhips.
I have many old injuries, both physical and mental.
Opiates are a blessing as well as a curse. I'm glad to be lucky enough to have the know-how to remove the pain.

I'm paying it back now of course, I seem to be shitting as much blood as any other liquid coming out of me, sigh. I guess oral opiates do damage to the digestive tract similar to iv kills veins.

 

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Careful.Patches are good enough for chronic pain management

Agreed, they are enough for pain management, but my love of better feeling opiates preceded my prescription for bupe. The rest is just weakness and greed that I have to somehow overcome before I destroy the viability of controlled pain in this body I reside in.

 

[Nas47]

I poo blood on and off except I never consider it to come from internal except the canal itself and just little abrasions around the entrance which always he'll over in time but I imagine your own experience is not that case sorry you have to go through that.

If you have poo blood it could be very serious.Dont wannna scare you,but colonoscopy is nessesery.This is for doc.

 

[Squeaky]

I'm closing in on that two week mark, thirteenth day today, bupe patch changed this morning, trying to make them last.
Last week was so very many months ago, wasn't it?

Doesn’t matter how you’re measuring time, it always feels like an eternity until you on the other side. Then when it’s over, it magically feels like it all happened in the blink of an eye.

 

[Squeaky]

This is true, until the body goes wrong.
Sometimes the body keeps you on the highest alert of pain and danger even when the potential for more damage from that particular injury is years in the past. I'd an operation age 40, for example. No pain at the time because they had to cut through the main nerve in the area to get the tumor out in one piece.
Eleven years later the nerves are still knitting themselves together and it hurts like hell sometimes, this negatively impacts my relationhips.
I have many old injuries, both physical and mental.
Opiates are a blessing as well as a curse. I'm glad to be lucky enough to have the know-how to remove the pain.

I'm paying it back now of course, I seem to be shitting as much blood as any other liquid coming out of me, sigh. I guess oral opiates do damage to the digestive tract similar to iv kills veins.

Have you ever considered a change in diet? Maybe something like a plant based diet? I’m no vegan but I know my whole digestive tract feels healthier when I stop with the McDonald’s and CokaCola.

 

[Squeaky]

It isn't that honestly. It's not pooing blood. I have piles a lot from IBS. Occassionally a little cut is opened, tiny thing near bum exit.

That's all it is. I have never actually officially pooed blood from internally.

Piles though, this year on off, at times with 20 + Diarrhoeas a day, every time like hot poker fire, can't sleep or even rise from looat times from the level of burning.

Was not fun on LSD trips with enough additional pain. I used urine and shea butter but was never enough.

But I use the external cream. It's been life changing too so far.

We used something called “butt paste” when my kids were in diapers. It was like cream cheese, but it worked wonders and stayed where you put it.
I remember a night of beer and unreasonably spicy food. It was the only time I used it on myself. The next day was not nice for my behind, but that cream seriously saved my ass!

 

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Have you ever considered a change in diet? Maybe something like a plant based diet? I’m no vegan but I know my whole digestive tract feels healthier when I stop with the McDonald’s and CokaCola.

It's a struggle to keep my weight up near normal because I can't eat a western diet successfully at all. My gastroenterologist told me "our *** patients are the sickest we have".
The *** being a rare condition I think is too identifying to state, but I was born with it and may end up tube fed to my heart if I can't keep eating.

I depend on chocolate and vitamin pills to supplement the rice & vegetables and keep my weight almost normal without the excruciating pain of eating much. If I cheat, have some wine for example, I pay in pain. Vaping bud eases my guts and mind but that doesn't touch my arthritis for which I get partial disability. For that I like opiates.

It's a complex syndrome and it makes opiate wd particularly tricky with a lot of rehydration salts and monitoring my weight carefully.

Being underweight is more dangerous than being overweight, but this blood I'm losing is bright red, hence OK unless it goes on too long, then I become anaemic as well as jaundiced!

 

[Nas47]

It isn't that honestly. It's not pooing blood. I have piles a lot from IBS. Occassionally a little cut is opened, tiny thing near bum exit.

That's all it is. I have never actually officially pooed blood from internally.

Piles though, this year on off, at times with 20 + Diarrhoeas a day, every time like hot poker fire, can't sleep or even rise from looat times from the level of burning.

Was not fun on LSD trips with enough additional pain. I used urine and shea butter but was never enough.

But I use the external cream. It's been life changing too so far

It's a struggle to keep my weight up near normal because I can't eat a western diet successfully at all. My gastroenterologist told me "our *** patients are the sickest we have".
The *** being a rare condition I think is too identifying to state, but I was born with it and may end up tube fed to my heart if I can't keep eating.

I depend on chocolate and vitamin pills to supplement the rice & vegetables and keep my weight almost normal without the excruciating pain of eating much. If I cheat, have some wine for example, I pay in pain. Vaping bud eases my guts and mind but that doesn't touch my arthritis for which I get partial disability. For that I like opiates.

It's a complex syndrome and it makes opiate wd particularly tricky with a lot of rehydration salts and monitoring my weight carefully.

Being underweight is more dangerous than being overweight, but this blood I'm losing is bright red, hence OK unless it goes on too long, then I become anaemic as well as jaundiced!

Know what...after start to stick that patches stomach dont hurt me anymore.Simply dont take pills except one valium.Sooo thats a good part of transdermal meds.no irritate stomach.And i have bad,bad stomach issues long time ago

 

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Organic coconut oil! I swear. For a start it doesn't actually require a digestion process it completely bypasses it so is affectively instant fuel and all of that stuff about those type of saturated fats being bad for you it's pretty much bullshit I've been eating 50 to 70 g of coconut oil daily for about 12 years now and are used to eat about 70 g of butter organic ghee which is actually the best but if you can make it yourself properly from organic butter.

2019 I was only 50 kg and I'm about 6 foot and very broad framed I should be minimum 67 kg ideally if I had reached 49 kg and my weight was declining continually then then I honestly don't think I could have recovered that.

I started using the benzodiazepine to manage a very severe anxiety disorder and also actually as a genuine medicine at the time to calm down a massively over a reactive and agitated nervous system from infections and damage which enabled me to sort my life out and start to gain weight I just did not anticipate March 2020 when all vital usual health treatments plus the long-awaited for mental health therapy came through and was cancelled.

Regardless no matter what happens now and I've eaten less in recent months than I have eaten over that period for decades and are used to lose weight so incredibly quickly and struggle to gain it but I've not once come close to dropping below 62 kg remarkably it's some sort of phenomenon then but there may be some other explanations for it involving particular alternative health treatment approaches we are using called "Rifing".

But also even when I do not eat these days what I do is I managed to get substantial amounts of organic coconut oil into me with a bit of salt and often edible cannabis infused coconut oil with sunflower lecithin too which is actually a very good supplement for connective tissue and brain with Choline,

The coconut oil and high saturated fat consumption because it's virtually 100% saturated has really never lead to any type or indication of problems or imbalance.

And has probably helped me maintain weight without regular meals but I also include lots of coconut oil and extra-virgin olive oil with my meals because I have no problem with natural healthy fats what really destroys your digestive system and especially mine is the man-made artificial fats keep this in mind seriously avoid that stuff like the plague it's poison And it's everywhere unless you're very aware and prepared to go your own way.

Refined anything.

Except- "Olive oil".

Not extra virgin,

Olive oil, Is partially refined but it's not done in the same Frankenstein way to those other ones like peanut and cola and refined sunflower and so on and margarine which was invented to fatten turkeys in the 1950s but all of the turkeys died so they turned it into a vegetable oil and marketed it as the healthy alternative to the dangerous saturated fats which are until 1950 has not ever lead to any epidemics in heart disease for simple facts now.

We have been poisoned and assaulted from so many angles including the food chain I learnt about this when I became severely allergic to these artificial man-made poisons developing Lyme disease in 2005 which was the grandest education I could have been gifted really despite its perilous hellish path.

Now something else I was told on what I trust to be an informed authority privately that rape seed oil as good as it sounds on paper especially the fact that it is circulating in unrefined form I believe which would get my vote usually is really not actually designed for human consumption and should be left out of our food chain or there will be consequences showing up from using the wrong key once again.

I did study quite a lot on fats over the years but my point is choose the right facts and aim for a 50-50 balance ideally between saturated and unsaturated avoid omega six or limit it and include omega three and also be quite liberal in your usage of these healthy fats because they can really help you to maintain and gain weight much more consistently and easily, without really assaulting your digestive system.

I can tell you honestly from long-term many experiences confirming this that just a single ingestion of a refined man-made fat artificial basically can prevent our gallbladder from being able to function and it is the gallbladder which processes fats except butter does not need much gallbladder action and coconut oil does not need any which is why when your digestion is really down the pain it can be a real godsend.

I'm going to try that, I've loads of organic coconut oil, about half the jars are currently very green looking and not only should I use it up, but I miss that particular strain and forgot I made some edibles

 

[Squeaky]

I'm going to try that, I've loads of organic coconut oil, about half the jars are currently very green looking and not only should I use it up, but I miss that particular strain and forgot I made some edibles

I made some brownies once, many years ago. No clue how much to eat, no idea how long it takes to hit, and no idea if my recipe even works. I boiled a small bag of green in olive oil. Just hot enough to blacken the green stuff for about an hour. Then used the olive oil in place of the shortening in the brownie recipe. They tasted like regular brownies, no hint if the good stuff. So I ate one and waited about 30 minutes.... nothing. Ate another and waited about 30 minutes.... nothing. By the time it was obvious that it was working, I had eaten enough to give myself a slight stomachache from all of the sugar. And then it all came crashing into me.

I was seeing pink elephants until noon the next day.

 

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I used to make the easiest, sugarless , cocoa and butter brownies with 7 grams of Goldseal Black and 3.5 grams pure hash in a 7 inch round tin.

1sq inch was a trip lol!

I was a real hash eating junkie as young man, I ate about 5.5 grams (of strong Hash/Black) of the Brownie one occasion.

On paper, and in reflection that's an insane amount of THC. Over 7000 mg's anyway, I think? I am tripping but I did this Math subconsciously before and it's lots of THC.

I don't think you can get 7g of thc from 3.5g hash, but I'm open to believing in the hash faeries.

 

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No. 7 grams of goldseal black dope, plus 3.5 grams of then lovely fresh green malleable Welsh hash cooked in a 7 in sq rpund brownie tin no sugar.

Seriously one inch cubed was more than a 100 mic acid trip in terms of the actual hit.

1.5 grams pure black/hash per inch cubed.

Lots THC you get me lol. On paper at least.

I did eat well well over half the tin one night. So like, 6,5 grams really x 70% THC likely.

I am just eating a 16 gram cococonut oil edible dose now mixed with cashew butter, which is pale vs that but in addition to 500 Micrograms of Lsd is sufficient.

Sorry, I didn't read it properly. I'm with you on the high thc doses, not as high as you're saying but I've never had an experience of "too much" with ediibles, I just lie down if I can't function any more, stick on my headphones and see ya later world, I get all the visuals I want without Lsd. I nearly died a couple of times doing stupid daredevil stuff on acid when I was younger, I know to avoid it, it doesn't agree with me. My mind opens and expands quite nicely with either green or opiates, but of course I'm two weeks clean of non pharma opiates atm and "junkie face" has gone . I honestly think my cheeks visibly filled out after eating maybe 50-100g of green coconut oil the last two days!