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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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Foreigner said:
Canada is going full tilt... not as bad as Australia, but it could get there. Lots of protest and legal resistance here, but our Prime Minister is a total communist. Footage came out recently of him admiring China's ability to get stuff done without too much fuss from human rights.

This is about individualism vs. collectivism. I believe that what's good for the individual is good for the state. These commies think that what's good for the collective is what's good for the individual.
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yup our pm jacdina is a full communist aswell they are the same age and been friends with justin for a long time.

I can only hope we outlaw commies and socalists one day this is crimes agains't humanity. The commies in holland and belgium are just shooting lockdown protestors dead and not a single thing about it on mainstream media.

Americans will not even be able to grasp what is happening unless they were on our shores.

they are so blind.

Communism will be coming for them next though they are lucky they have endless guns to overthrow diactorship. These commies have been hell bent on disarming our populace before introducing communism

we are getting so close to the chinese its insane. I honestly wish trump comes back and invades New zealand canada the eu and australia and removes these commies
 
Foreigner said:
I'm not mad at you personally, but this pisses me off. I am SO TIRED of the polite middle ground on this talking about people taking a stand for freedom as being on the poles of extremes. I'm a moderate and centrist for god's sake, and I have been driven into opposition of pandemic policy by all of the utterly corrupt and horrendous shit I am seeing. I am connected to literally thousands of health care workers of all kinds, so perhaps I have a different view on this than the average reader.

I'm not "pushing a narrative", I'm stating what is literally happening. Maybe the world looks more rosy where you are, I don't know? Tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs without unemployment insurance in my province alone, and are expected to just go without. Them and their families. All because they made a sovereign choice to not get vaccinated. They told us two weeks and it's been two years. When are emergency powers going away? When are these draconian systems going to dissolve? When we get zero cases??

When you have moderates telling you to wake up, you should be frightened. I'm not some fringe conspiracy theorist.
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I didn't accuse you of pushing a narrative. I was responding to birdup and agreeing that it is exhausting trying to discuss nearly any politically charged topic. I am tired. I come in here and try to discuss and state the way I see things and engage in debate, and again and again I have people who disagree with me getting upset and calling me an idiot, or strongly implying it, and it's all so aggressive. I'm not trying to be aggressive. I'm just trying to state my point of view. I'm not telling people they're idiots for not getting vaccinated, I get it. I'm not telling people they're sheep because they didn't come to the same conclusion as me. Yet it seems like that is mostly what I get from the other side, it's disrespectful and rude, and it makes me tired.

I'm not really directing that at you, much, either. I mean you're kind of implying it too, but you're been more polite about it than some so you haven't personally caused me any upset thus far.
 
who called you an idiot @Xorkoth ?

it looks to me like everybody here loves you - i have seen no aggressiveness towards you other than the minor disagreement
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
who called you an idiot @Xorkoth ?

it looks to me like everybody here loves you - i have seen no aggressiveness towards you other than the minor disagreement
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It's not "hey Xorkoth you're an idiot", it's the comments from various people such as "if you don't see XXX by now, you're an idiot", as well as the liberal use of the term "sheeple". Seeing as how I am someone who has reached different conclusions in many cases, based off the same data and my own life experiences, I just find it... I don't know, annoying? Exhausting? Condescending? It makes me feel like, why bother? A lot of the time.

EDIT: Yeah basically. It just makes me feel bad/frustrated like half the time I come in this forum. Toxic is a good way to describe it. And I realize there is toxicity coming from the "liberal" side too from some people. I don't like that either.
 
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Xorkoth said:
It's not "hey Xorkoth you're an idiot", it's the comments from various people such as "if you don't see XXX by now, you're an idiot", as well as the liberal use of the term "sheeple". Seeing as how I am someone who has reached different conclusions in many cases, based off the same data and my own life experiences, I just find it... I don't know, annoying? Exhausting? Condescending? It makes me feel like, why bother? A lot of the time.

EDIT: Yeah basically. It just makes me feel bad/frustrated like half the time I come in this forum. Toxic is a good way to describe it. And I realize there is toxicity coming from the "liberal" side too from some people. I don't like that either.
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I have been guilty plainly of exactly that myself and at the time I did actually think of yourself in particular because I hate the fact that by default it will be directly targeted at you against the wishes of my heart and mind.

Which I really don't like because it's not like I see you as any sort of mindless unconscious imbecile devoid of intellect on any level or vision and deprh and character.

I honestly mean that when I have made such arrogant opinionated primitive remarks and insinuations I have considered yourself in my mind not wanting to upset as it would surely be taken as disrespect and judgement.

I can't ratify that though. You know me. All sleeve. Mad, eccentric views on mass deception.

I can actually really understand @Xorkoth how you feel a bit disrepect d that way.

In my own case, I hesitated at the time because I did not want people I do respect to take offence at my arrogant brashness.

Whatever I am sorry for making such remarks which are definitely insensitive and disrespectful when it comes to your own feelings on this because I genuinely look up to you with total respect and even as a younger man than me slightly, I forget that always and look up to you as a role model and setting a good example in so many ways.

So my arrogance and petulance on that is genuinely not meant to cause yourself any personal offence or undermimimg.

I mean I honestly don't know what to make sense of the whole of all of this just so many different angles and there are exceptions and caveats all over the place as well.
 
AutoTripper said:
I agree with you pretty thoroughly except I do actually believe there is a virus except I don't consider it as a virus it's pure technology in my mind very advanced stuff
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I'm 100% convinced there is no virus at all. The science itself, virology, is completely wrong.

It comes down to misinterpretation of data. Viral particles are so small we can't see or work with them in vivo. We can only work with them using static electron microscopy and indirect methods of manipulation, and most crucially the entire paradigm rests upon what is known as 'cell cultures'. No virus has ever been isolated directly from human, animal, plant, or fluid.. it always comes out of a cell culture medium and it is within that methodology that the delusion arises.

I highly recommend people read "Virus Mania" by T. Engelbrecht. It lays out so much of the picture, including the corruption with the pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment. There's also some videos from one of the co-authors that covers many of the relevant points: https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c
 
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I'm 100% convinced there is no virus at all. The science itself, virology, is completely wrong.

It comes down to misinterpretation of data. Viral particles are so small we can't see or work with them in vivo. We can only work with them using static electron microscopy and indirect methods of manipulation, and most crucially the entire paradigm rests upon what is known as 'cell cultures'. No virus has ever been isolated directly from human, animal, plant, or fluid.. it always comes out of a cell culture medium and it is within that methodology that the delusion arises.

I highly recommend people read "Virus Mania" by T. Engelbrecht. It lays out so much of the picture, including the corruption with the pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment. There's also some videos from one of the co-authors that covers many of the relevant points: https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c
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Thanks I live near you actually Bedford I'm sure you know of it really not too far nice always to see other members are not billions of miles away anyway.
 
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