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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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I’m prepared…haha…I agree with most of what you say, except it’s the left that delusional ;)
You a lot of excellent points and I agree with most of what you said except it's the right that's delusional 🤫


Jk jk lol but for real though stand in the middle for a minute and look to both sides. Each one has a large extremist presence and they are the loudest the most aggressive and they are both delusional in their own ways. They get all the media attention and they're always on the front line or under the spotlight and all the exposure makes it appear as if they represent the entire image of their party, but they don't. Most of each party is made up of sane rational folk they just don't get public attention. Unfortunately because the extremist sides are so aggressive in their views if you're part of the party but tell them you don't agree with them on something or tell them their wrong it'll be like blood in the water and the sharks'll jump ya. Cause if you're not all in your traitor or racist ya know. So I think a lot of the sane party members just roll with the punches and agree with everything to avoid getting turned on.

But if youve been in the middle this whole time you'll see the whole two party system thing is just facade. They all play on the same team and pat each other on the back. They talk a good game and put on show us think they have our best interests at heart but they don't. They serve the needs of billion dollar corporations and industries and seek to exploit money and resources from where they can. As far as we're concerned their only job is to keep us uneducated, uninformed, unaware, divided politically and financially and blindly obedient to our government. They need to make sure we remain good little consumers and stay oblivious to being exploited for our labor with poverty wages. That's what capitalism demands the few at the top live a life of luxury and true freedom by exploiting the many at the bottom that are impoverished, vulnerable, disenfranchised, or brainwashed with all the patriotic kool aid. But this is a good year. People are done with it, massive labor strikes and worker shortages are gonna wreak havoc on the economy and the stock market❤️❤️ but as beautiful as that is to witness its to little to late anyways. Because this year is pretty much it. We're witnessing the beginning of the fall of Rome and we got front row seats. So might as well enjoy the show. Live it up now while you can. Forget about your debts, your credit score, sobriety, planning for the future. It's all gonna be pointless pretty soon. If you don't stay here to be part of the chaos then pick a country that you can easily get in to. Canada or Mexico are likely choices. Start exchanging dollars for their currency now and build up small emergency savings. Probably best to keep showing up to work for now so youll have income and just put a little funding into your flee the country kit and spend the rest living a hedonistic lifestyle. Or spend it on doing fun things with your kids or loved ones or what ever makes you happy. And just stay vigilant to what's happening around you. Pay attention to wall street and investors, CEOs, the banks and exchange rates, gold and silver values. Red flags are gonna be company stocks plummeting in value as investors pull out, dollar value droping around other countries simultaneously, huge spikes in gold and silver and other precious metals, follow news and social media to see if CEOs politicians and other elite members suddenly leaving the country. They're gonna know first before any of us. That's your cue to leave or stay but it's gonna be real bad for everyone that stays. This isn't a what if scenario it's the scenario. Capitalism has reached its climax its past the point no return and it can only come crashing down now. We might have had a decade or two still left but covid exacerbated the situation and we've got maybe 5 years at best before it's done. Capitalism killed the US.
 
To quote Chester Bennington "In the end it doesn't even matter."

If things really get bad, and I am forced to live a regimented life with no freedom then I'll do the "self-abortion" thing and I'll be telling the government that they essentially gave people complete authority over their own bodies and that I can exercise those rights irrespective of whether they are recognised by the government or not. Rights are not granted, they are recognised. Once rights are no longer recognised (eg. abortion, the right to die with dignity, the right to use cannabis, and other drugs that reduce suffering for most) then they're obviously very hard to get back and can take a century or more of constant fighting just for recognition. It took women centuries to get suffrage, it took them decades to be able to access abortion, and it'll take us decades or centuries to get those rights back once they are no longer recognised. I don't see why any human being should be forced to suffer when they had nothing whatsoever to do with the problem that caused the collapse of society.

I don't care if the government does not recognise the right to die, I'll do it anyway. Partly because I don't care what the government wants if they are going to control me in such a profound way, and partly because I just don't care full stop. I'm taking pages out the playbook that I've been reading since one fine day in 1996 at the age of 17, when I suddenly realised that you are in control of your own body and that no one can dictate what happens to your own body as an adult without your consent for any reason. That was the day I became a pro-choicer, and I've been that way ever since. You are in control. No one else is. Make it clear to the government that you are you alone are the one who gets to decide what happens to your life. Don't ever take no for an answer. Not even maybe. Just don't. Stand your ground, you only get to live once, and it had better be at least partially on your own terms, or not at all.
 
you only get to live once
I'm not arguing against anything you say.

I might agree with you largely or fully.

But I'm out of this argument now. My head aches and it's a tireless process, time only will tell I'm watching but not closely any more.

Just one point, it's so often reeled out as the gold standard stamp.

I am call it highly spiritual in nature.

I actually believe in eternity.
There is no actual evidence to support only living once.

It's purely an assumption, belief.

Personally, I would probably take it atm in life.

Consciousness hurts. But it doesn't sit with me to even imagine my own individual but not separate consciousness will be extinguished.

I just need to make it past the material plane.

But I do not believe there is sufficient Evidence lol of people living more than once, or not.
 
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She likely didn’t have enough faith in science, so the vaccine acted accordingly. Lesson to all non believers, if you don’t trust the science it can and will smite you.
 


so how many ppl are gonna fall for this again? they claimed 90%+ effectiveness for adults too and we all know how that went

seriously - what fuckin planet are we living on now?

you gotta be kidding me with this horseshit
 
it's insanity

Southwest and American airlines both stating that they're not firing anybody over the vaccine mandate is a positive step in the right direction, so im hanging onto that for now

i think Boeing is the next big fight - lets see what happens there....
 
I wish they would just tell the truth. It's a bad look to lie or exaggerate in order to get people to take the vaccine, they should be telling the truth. At this point communicating falsehoods will cause more people to decide not to trust it. I say this being someone who believes that for most people, the vaccine greatly reduces your chances of getting seriously ill. But if they continue to push 90% effectiveness against any symptoms,

It could be that it IS 90% effective against symptomatic illness in children, given children are already a lot less likely to get seriously ill. We'll have to see the data. But throughout this whole thing they've communicated in a way that seems very much like "let's say whatever it takes to get people to do it". Whether that is in an honest attempt to protect the populace by a belief that if everyone were vaccinated, the case counts of severe illness would be the lowest, or something nefarious, we will only be able to really see in hindsight. It's impossible to make that determination right now unless you're someone who is involved in the upper levels of the management of this pandemic,

I will say, though, that the vaccines WERE performing far better against the alpha variant they were developed for. If we hadn't had delta hit the scene, we would probably be looking at a much different situation. That said, I just wish everyone would be honest about everything. lack of public trust is such a huge thing, you'd think they'd want to do everything possible to try to re-establish it or at least not continue to make it worse.
 
I wish they would just tell the truth.
Sadly this will not become a "thing" as the agendas are all tied into the tapestry.
Truth is not profitable... nor can it control. Truth is hidden and we are presented with what we want to hear... and eat it up.
I am glad that at least 25% + are holding out as this may be enough to save our sorry asses. Maybe we needed the vax and now a push for kids and boosters seem to fit the hard-line but is a little too aggressive imo.
Just kinda makes a mf distrust and push back even more these misinforming and lock-step approach on these stabs.
I maintain my position: If she gets it i will get it (booster). if not... fuck it.
The global lock-stepping is more an issue in my mind fwiw.
 


so how many ppl are gonna fall for this again? they claimed 90%+ effectiveness for adults too and we all know how that went

seriously - what fuckin planet are we living on now?

you gotta be kidding me with this horseshit
We’re living on planet” I’ll trust you until you’ve proven untrustworthy, and even after proven untrustworthy I’ll still trust you, ok ? So don’t fuck me, again “
 
I wish they would just tell the truth. It's a bad look to lie or exaggerate in order to get people to take the vaccine, they should be telling the truth. At this point communicating falsehoods will cause more people to decide not to trust it. I say this being someone who believes that for most people, the vaccine greatly reduces your chances of getting seriously ill. But if they continue to push 90% effectiveness against any symptoms,

It could be that it IS 90% effective against symptomatic illness in children, given children are already a lot less likely to get seriously ill. We'll have to see the data. But throughout this whole thing they've communicated in a way that seems very much like "let's say whatever it takes to get people to do it". Whether that is in an honest attempt to protect the populace by a belief that if everyone were vaccinated, the case counts of severe illness would be the lowest, or something nefarious, we will only be able to really see in hindsight. It's impossible to make that determination right now unless you're someone who is involved in the upper levels of the management of this pandemic,

I will say, though, that the vaccines WERE performing far better against the alpha variant they were developed for. If we hadn't had delta hit the scene, we would probably be looking at a much different situation. That said, I just wish everyone would be honest about everything. lack of public trust is such a huge thing, you'd think they'd want to do everything possible to try to re-establish it or at least not continue to make it worse.

That's why i like you - you keep an open-mind about it all and see that there's some screwed up things going on sometimes
 
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