Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[JackARoe]

Good point I do know someone allergic to any vaccine for some reason. That can be an issue. I never had nor ever will get a flu shot. There is more illogic with the flu shot than the covid vaccine. Way too many people get a flu shot, get very sick from the shot and then still get the flu. So there the logic falls for me.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

and that's nearly my entire medical history right there - there's nothing else wrong with me....so i believe, that if i never received those vaccines, i'd be in mint condition right now

the immune system is not fully understood - but we do know that it can also turn on itself - your own immune system can kill you - that's a fact and that's something to consider

another fact: before the advent of vaccines, anaphylaxis was unheard of - and the first time it was ever observed in a medical setting was in fact, from a vaccine....that's a fact - im not gonna prove it to anybody because i don't feel like it - you can do the research yourself


so - you have a lot of nerve telling me that i need to "get a vaccine or else..." (nobody specifically)

you're gonna tell me what to do? nobody tells me what to do - i make those decisions - if i wanna do what you tell me, i will - if i don't, im not and i won't - simple as that

and im proud of my fellow country men, women, and those who wanna identify as whatever they want, who stand up to it and say "fuck you i wont do what you tell me" - this country was started by a bunch of ppl who said the same thing - that's who we are

i love Kyrie Irving - he's great - i stand with him

he doesn't owe anybody an explanation either - so if you don't like his reasons or the fact that he's not giving you a reason, that's your problem - fuck you too (not trying be an asshole here but idk how else to put it - so excuse me i dont mean to throw that at anybody specifically)


rant over

 

[Xorkoth]

I have to say, though, I definitely used to love America a lot more than I do right now.

Me too I still love America though. I love the people and culture by and large, except for its (substantial) problems, and the people I am repelled by (which I am sure exist in every single country in the history of humanity). I love the land and I love my way of life. I have tons of friends and loved ones and we're all good people who are kind to others and want to make the world a better place, and do, to all the people we come in contact with, to the best of our abilities.

That was the last vaccine i ever got...and also when i finally put 2 and 2 together to realize i just don't do well with vaccines

the year before, i finished up the 3 dose regimen for the Hep B vaccine, and after the last shot, 2 weeks later, i had to have an appendectomy - nobody knows why but you know what i think....

i also ended up with a sensitivity to yeast, which was another nightmare i had to figure out - thought it was gluten at first - long story with that too.....but guess what's used as an additive in the Hep B shot? yeast....

i also have anaphylaxis from seafood which is believed to have been caused by a Tetanus shot that used to use fish oil as a carrier - when i was 10, i had to get stitches and i got a tetanus shot and shortly after that, after eating shellfish for years before, i could no longer eat it - my throat closes....no family history of that either...

so i just don't think i do well with vaccines personally, so im retired from them

That's a very good reason to be averse to vaccinations, imo.

 

[MydriHaze]

Who's got the 3rd? Who's got the 4th?!

 

[PtahTek]

ill take left field i like the periphery.

 

[MydriHaze]

ill take left field i like the periphery.

Relevant if it's far..

 

[PtahTek]

I got yer relevance and there is no mistaking what it is; be carefull before I bomb ya ass with dick pics.

 

[AutoTripper]

Who's got the 3rd? Who's got the 4th?!

I hope there are enough abacusses in the end you know.

I like abacuses. I could use one for safer benzo use actually.
And trips. Might have to pick up some before they're all sold out lol.

I'm just so non materialistic though.

 

[PtahTek]

I hope there are enough abacusses in the end you know.

Unfair scales... not enough abacus is what im thinkin. always "off" and always recalculating until ya find that anomaly... or the reverse.
Not sure how it will be leveled but at some point i guess it will be.
Fuckin wars all over and shit not gonna start its all bs shadow puppet illusions. Errrr....
The abacus. I like them since a todler, lad or gas dude from the emerald isle... gotta find that post been lookin but distractions left and right

 

[AutoTripper]

Unfair scales... not enough abacus is what im thinkin. always "off" and always recalculating until ya find that anomaly... or the reverse.
Not sure how it will be leveled but at some point i guess it will be.
Fuckin wars all over and shit not gonna start its all bs shadow puppet illusions. Errrr....
The abacus. I like them since a todler, lad or gas dude from the emerald isle... gotta find that post been lookin but distractions left and right

I think I follow you. Maybe partly subconsciously still. I am pretty stoned.

The subconscious is a marvellous tool though we talk about being conscious we don't talk enough about being subconscious lol.

Because the subconscious when maintained and running efficiently can store today what you can process at your leisure tomorrow so you don't even need to pay attention most of the time!

But you like abacuses and so do I so again we have some common ground at least.

 

[PtahTek]

we don't talk enough about being subconscious

I agree.
i can be conscious of my unconscious like ghostinthedarkness was saying in another thread. I can see with my eyes closed. No shit. It is more of a field of energy that soft shapes are observed from but been conscious of this for decades I just started actually being more conscious of it and its def there.
There is more than meets the eyes, ears, nose, mouth reach i think.... disclaimer dont quote me on this ymmv

 

[birdup]

@Mr. Krinkle

You make a number of good points, as usual. I realize that the rest of the world is looking at the Melbourne/Sydney situation and saying WTF. So am I. It's crazy. But that's a new thing for Australia. Melbourne has been in the top 10 most liveable cities for decades. Part of what contributes to that (IMO) is our stance on COVID.

It sucks for me that Australia is trying to maintain it's gold standard at any cost, but - at the same time - we need to follow our trajectory the same way the USA needs to follow theirs.

We are not the land of the free. I'm okay with that. There are lots of other good things about Australia. I would rather live here., and... honestly, the pandemic situation actually concreted that.

Australia is over-reacting to this virus. The United States under-reacted.

Which one is more dangerous when the next pandemic occurs?

Show me your country uniting.

...

As for the flu shots, there certainly have been anaphylactic reactions and deaths and all sorts of adverse side effects from many vaccines including influenza vaxxes.

Account Suspended

healthsourcelombard.com

This source is as solid as your JFK Jr source.

30 percent of all flu vaccines can come with adverse reactions, and according to the CDC, six percent of those will be “serious” events–including death

You said they were under-reporting the adverse reactions.

The risk of death is 1 in a million. The risk of long-term illness is (from my understanding) basically zero for many of the vaccines, and we've just developed them. That's hardly a disaster, yet there is a lot of uproar about the side effects.

Your contributions to this thread, for example, are (IMO) disproportionate to the actual threat from these vaccines... in the same way - I'm sure - you can see that the fear surrounding the actual virus is disproportionate to the threat COVID actually poses?

I'm done with being annoyed by anti-vaxxers. It actually makes no difference if Australian anti-vaxxers don't get jabbed. They don't need to get jabbed. Every new case in Victoria is basically a new vaccinated person (assuming they survive). Natural immunity is at least as good as two jabs.

Looking at NSW (who plateaued then dropped and are now opening up early) our vaccination rates are high enough already. There is no stopping us.

Somehow, though, I imagine this all happening again next year with another mutation.

Maybe the Australian people are too agreeable.

I can't do this all again.

I went to the Shrine of Remembrance the other day and police were patrolling everywhere. There were squads of them, questioning people and handing out fines. This is not the Australia I know and love. I'm conflicted about it. My assumption is: this is temporary.

 

[PtahTek]

I'm just gonna say everything is suspect.
Hope we find what we really need.

 

[AutoTripper]

I agree.
i can be conscious of my unconscious like ghostinthedarkness was saying in another thread. I can see with my eyes closed. No shit. It is more of a field of energy that soft shapes are observed from but been conscious of this for decades I just started actually being more conscious of it and its def there.
There is more than meets the eyes, ears, nose, mouth reach i think.... disclaimer dont quote me on this ymmv

I believe you, Because I believe anything we can officially declared as being outside I'll beyond the scope of what we regard so trustfully as science.

ESP Science still fails to account for it or even acknowledge and so many people insist that there is no proof for this phenomena and it cannot exist because proof is science and science cannot even start to get his teeth into stuff like this but I have seen it and done it my whole life so this is why I threw science out partly at least there's a million other reasons lol.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

@Mr. Krinkle

You make a number of good points, as usual. I realize that the rest of the world is looking at the Melbourne/Sydney situation and saying WTF. So am I. It's crazy. But that's a new thing for Australia. Melbourne has been in the top 10 most liveable cities for decades. Part of what contributes to that (IMO) is our stance on COVID.

It sucks for me that Australia is trying to maintain it's gold standard at any cost, but - at the same time - we need to follow our trajectory the same way the USA needs to follow theirs.

We are not the land of the free. I'm okay with that. There are lots of other good things about Australia. I would rather live here., and... honestly, the pandemic situation actually concreted that.

Australia is over-reacting to this virus. The United States under-reacted.

Which one is more dangerous when the next pandemic occurs?

Show me your country uniting.

...

As for the flu shots, there certainly have been anaphylactic reactions and deaths and all sorts of adverse side effects from many vaccines including influenza vaxxes.

Account Suspended

healthsourcelombard.com

This source is as solid as your JFK Jr source.



You said they were under-reporting the adverse reactions.

The risk of death is 1 in a million. The risk of long-term illness is (from my understanding) basically zero for many of the vaccines, and we've just developed them. That's hardly a disaster, yet there is a lot of uproar about the side effects.

Your contributions to this thread, for example, are (IMO) disproportionate to the actual threat from these vaccines... in the same way - I'm sure - you can see that the fear surrounding the actual virus is disproportionate to the threat COVID actually poses?

I'm done with being annoyed by anti-vaxxers. It actually makes no difference if Australian anti-vaxxers don't get jabbed. They don't need to get jabbed. Every new case in Victoria is basically a new vaccinated person (assuming they survive). Natural immunity is at least as good as two jabs.

Looking at NSW (who plateaued then dropped and are now opening up early) our vaccination rates are high enough already. There is no stopping us.

Somehow, though, I imagine this all happening again next year with another mutation.

Maybe the Australian people are too agreeable.

I can't do this all again.

I went to the Shrine of Remembrance the other day and police were patrolling everywhere. There were squads of them, questioning people and handing out fines. This is not the Australia I know and love. I'm conflicted about it. My assumption is: this is temporary.

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash a while ago.....RFK Jr. we're talking about

if he ran for president, he'd win in a landslide - but he chose to do what he does now, and i think that's great

 

[PtahTek]

it cannot exist

luke skywalker did it blindfolded
over and over repeatedly =
science

they should really just let go I think before the shit gets hot and it will/is i can feel the heat and using the senses I do have to try to filter and file no spam plz too much salt.
1

 

[birdup]

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash a while ago.....RFK Jr. we're talking about

Forgive me!

The US is like a soap opera that's been running for centuries. The whole Kennedy narrative arc is pretty ridiculous at this point. It's classic moustache twirling, identical brother S/O shit. Like days of our lives or something.... First Jeff K is shot, then Bobby dies. Then Jeff Jr. dies in a plane crash. Now Bobby Jr. is a anti-vaxxer? I don't know, man. They need to tone it down a little, if they want me to keep tuning in. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

 

[AutoTripper]

Sounds like they might just be losing another customer soon probably?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Forgive me!

The US is like a soap opera that's been running for centuries. The whole Kennedy narrative arc is pretty ridiculous at this point. It's classic moustache twirling, identical brother S/O shit. Like days of our lives or something.... First Jeff K is shot, then Bobby dies. Then Jeff Jr. dies in a plane crash. Now Bobby Jr. is a anti-vaxxer? I don't know, man. They need to tone it down a little, if they want me to keep tuning in. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

It's JOHN not JEFF! cmon man

 

[birdup]

Lister : Dallas? Wasn't that the place where that American king got assassinated?
Rimmer : JFK?
Lister : No. It was John something, not "Jeff Kay"!
Rimmer : JAY-F-K! Not Jeff Kay, you gimboid... like the airport! I did a paper on him at school.
Lister : I wonder why anybody would want to name their kid after an airport...
Rimmer : The airport was named after the President!
Lister : Alright!

Red Dwarf - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org