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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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just came back from the grocery store and saw a checker i haven't seen in a few months....healthy as can be, store offers $100 to get shots, so she gets them, 4 days after the second shot, heart attack - she's in her 40s and just came back to work after 3 months

she was pro-vaxx - not anymore - she said "biggest mistake in my life"

and all the medical bills are on her


real cool - that's how we take care of our people
 
so i still know more ppl who've ended up in the hospital from the shots than i know ppl who ended up in the hosptial from covid (i still don't know anybody who's ended up in the hospital from it)
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
so i still know more ppl who've ended up in the hospital from the shots than i know ppl who ended up in the hosptial from covid (i still don't know anybody who's ended up in the hospital from it)
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I've heard a handful of people say this. I am wondering what the deal is, because I know a shit ton of people vaccinated and no one I know has had any significant side effects but I know of a number of deaths from COVID. Maybe there are some bad batches that are locale-based? Or else just really good/bad luck?
 
Xorkoth said:
I've heard a handful of people say this. I am wondering what the deal is, because I know a shit ton of people vaccinated and no one I know has had any significant side effects but I know of a number of deaths from COVID. Maybe there are some bad batches that are locale-based? Or else just really good/bad luck?
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idk dude but i tell you no lies....i mean i know there's ppl ending up in the hospital but i still don't know anybody who's ended up in it

maybe because there's way more ppl i know of that got the shots than i even know who caught covid?

i really don't know....i do know that doctors aren't allowed to talk about it or they'll lose their license and they've stated as much - but they're seeing it too
 
Xorkoth said:
I've heard a handful of people say this. I am wondering what the deal is, because I know a shit ton of people vaccinated and no one I know has had any significant side effects but I know of a number of deaths from COVID. Maybe there are some bad batches that are locale-based? Or else just really good/bad luck?
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likewise. my takeaway is that anecdotal evidence is not of particularly high value.

alasdair
 
i wanna know how is it possible that there was a worse outbreak during the holidays and nobody was talking about country-wide hospitals over-capacity, but now with less cases, the hospitals are critically full

probably because theres so many "coincidental" heart attacks and strokes post-vaccination that they're dealing with because most of these hospitals, it's only 25%-30% patients are covid patients in the ICU
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
i wanna know how is it possible that there was a worse outbreak during the holidays and nobody was talking about country-wide hospitals over-capacity, but now with less cases, the hospitals are critically full

probably because theres so many "coincidental" heart attacks and strokes post-vaccination that they're dealing with because most of these hospitals, it's only 25%-30% patients are covid patients in the ICU
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this is called "speculation"
 
Data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 27, 2021, a total of 650,077 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 13,911 deaths — an increase of 284 over the number of deaths reported the previous week.


There were 85,971 reports of serious injuries, including deaths, during the same time period — up 1,505 compared with the previous week.


Excluding “foreign reports” filed in VAERS, 514,270 adverse events, including 6,296 deaths and 39,947 serious injuries, were reported in the U.S. between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 27, 2021.


Of the 6,296 U.S. deaths reported as of Aug. 27, 13% occurred within 24 hours of vaccination, 18% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination and 32% occurred in people who experienced an onset of symptoms within 48 hours of being vaccinated.
 
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and you speculate that you're protected by a vaccine
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nah, I like to point to the mountain of proven scientific and statistical evidence (instead of facebook posts or what my uncle Melvin said)

90-97% of all covid related hospitalizations in the last several months are unvaccinated people. That's the cold hard facts. The vaccine protects people. Are you denying that? Are you really brave enough to fly your flag in the face of proven science?
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
Data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 27, 2021, a total of 650,077 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 13,911 deaths — an increase of 284 over the number of deaths reported the previous week.


There were 85,971 reports of serious injuries, including deaths, during the same time period — up 1,505 compared with the previous week.


Excluding “foreign reports” filed in VAERS, 514,270 adverse events, including 6,296 deaths and 39,947 serious injuries, were reported in the U.S. between Dec. 14, 2020 and Aug. 27, 2021.


Of the 6,296 U.S. deaths reported as of Aug. 27, 13% occurred within 24 hours of vaccination, 18% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination and 32% occurred in people who experienced an onset of symptoms within 48 hours of being vaccinated.
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holy shit 14k people have died!?!? 7k within 24 hours of vaccination!?!?! omg this is groundbreaking, would you mind linking the incredible source for this news? which agency released this? was it reviewed? Do you or the writers of this have any idea how to interpret statistical data or it's reliablity?

You know just as many deaths are likely not attributed to covid than deaths that are erroneously contributed?

Have you done the math on this?

just curious, do you believe everything you read on the internet?
 
@Mr. Krinkle

LOL dude, that website/ "data" you just linked is from an anti-vax website and is fake

did you even check the references on that data you just posted???

this website is a joke and not scientific in any way... they post unreliable, unverified medical data as fact

it's completely biased and anti-vax propaganda... come on man

it's listing basic ass shit like "headache" as an serious adverse event..... it's also listing non-covid related deaths as covid vaccine deaths (with zero proof)

This website is literally going through masses of data and cherry picking unreliable data to format their biased conclusion

this is a joke and misleading...
 
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I think what irritates me the most about the choice we have is there are people not getting vaccinated but show up at hospitals crying like bitches. If I did not take the vaccine I would have stayed home and died in my bed if need be out of respect. But we have all these crybabies that show up at hospitals. A simple solution to keep people and their choices personal is unless you hae a vaccine card do not show up at a hosptital with Covid. Other things sure but not covid. You made that choice. I say that as someone that was not going to get vaccinated and stated that is what I think. But I did.

Get the second shot Thurs. So far all a non issue.

It use to be I knew more people that had side effects from the vaccine than had covid. Now I know more people that had covid. But one of them had gotten the vaccine 2 weeks before too so there's that...
 
@Mr. Krinkle also, I'd like to point out that the data on that website is 78% by people OVER THE AGE OF 65.... I doubt you actually cared to check that....

this data is highly skewed

'adverse covid vaccine deaths'... sure (not)

if people were dying from the vaccine it would be on national news....
 
Snafu of the Forest said:
nah, I like to point to the mountain of proven scientific and statistical evidence (instead of facebook posts or what my uncle Melvin said)

90-97% of all covid related hospitalizations in the last several months are unvaccinated people. That's the cold hard facts. The vaccine protects people. Are you denying that? Are you really brave enough to fly your flag in the face of proven science?
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Oscar de la Hoya begs to differ....


fuck your bullshit science that pulls data from the last 6 months when the first 3 months, less than 30% was even vaccinated - bullshit numbers

let's talk about the last 2 months, when vaccines were more prevalent and so was delta


show me those numbers then talk, science guy
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
fuck your bullshit science that pulls data from the last 6 months when the first 3 months, less than 30% was even vaccinated - bullshit numbers

let's talk about the last 2 months, when vaccines were more prevalent and so was delta


show me those numbers then talk, science guy
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listen to yourself...

"fuck bullshit science"... "let's cherry pick statistics and discount the fact that covid has evolved"

the stats changed because the virus changed... sorry if that's difficult to absorb or comprehend

you can misinterpret and rearrange all the facts you want
 
Snafu of the Forest said:
@Mr. Krinkle

LOL dude, that website/ "data" you just linked is from an anti-vax website and is fake

did you even check the references on that data you just posted???

this website is a joke and not scientific in any way... they post unreliable, unverified medical data as fact

it's completely biased and anti-vax propaganda... come on man

it's listing basic ass shit like "headache" as an serious adverse event..... it's also listing non-covid related deaths as covid vaccine deaths (with zero proof)

This website is literally going through masses of data and cherry picking unreliable data to format their biased conclusion

this is a joke and misleading...
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oh im lying about that huh


here you go, smart guy:



same stats same numbers
 
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