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Survival0200

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Have you guys tried quitting smoking?

Sheesh, it's difficult!

The nicotine products help, but whenever I don't take them I get these cravings from hell.

It feels like nicotine causes more cravings than even opiates.

I wish I never touched cigarettes.
 
I know brother I quit for about a year with the help of champix/chantix

Now I vape still addicted I guess but my lungs are thanking me for it.
 
For me, Niquitin patches worked like a charm. Nicorette brand was awful (always falling off and not strong enough). But before that, I had psilocybin experience that showed me the reason why I need to stop. It was obvious but on psilocybin I saw everything more clearly and vividly. It took several attempts with relapsing in stressful situations after 2-3 years of no smoking but every time it got easier. Now I do not smoke ~5 years. So clear vision wy this is important, right substitution, determination and perseverance. :)
 
it helped me to start off the morning by going as long as i can without a cig....so if i woke up at 7am, waiting til at least 10am to have the first one.....and then spacing them out further and further throughout the day.....

i quit about 10 years ago but had quit a few times in between my run with cigs...sometimes as long as a year....but then went back - just keep trying even if you do go back after quitting - that's the main thing....you'll totally quit eventually

i never did the patch or the chantix pills or anything....just used one of these for maybe 2 weeks after i had last quit https://www.smoketip.com/ but that was for the oral fixation - i was never addicted to that thing so it was very easy to put down right after that
 
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Day 5 or 6 or something here. Feeling good, over the cravings.



I got really lucky with the rare scenario where I'm stranded away from access to it for a month.

I quit once before for 1.5 years by switching to oral tobacco (snus) for 4 weeks then quitting that and on 3rd day of total nicotine cessation I took 150ug LSD. Totally reset me, never had another craving until I intentionally started again, the person I quit with still doesn't smoke
 
Vaping really does help with quitting smoking. The ill-effects of smoking can be dealt with if one can quit it before it gets too late. Vaping even helps with withdrawal symptoms when you quit smoking. Vaping causes the least harm compared to a traditional cigarette.
 
I'm planning to quit soon. I only smoke about two cigars a day now.

My friend died today from stage 4 lung cancer.
 
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I have been on and off nicotine my whole adult life. Nicotine is weird fucking drug. Every other drug I do, it's obvious why I like it, it's because it gets me high and makes me feel good. Nicotine makes me feel shitty if I actually get "high" from it, I HATE the nicotine buzz. But for some reason I crave it like a motherfucker. It makes no sense, I also have never been physically addicted to it, except a little bit the last time I quit (just had a hard time getting words out properly, I was also withdrawing from opiates then so it might even have just been that). I used to smoke a pack a day and no withdrawal at all when I stopped. I can vape 24/7/365 for a year or more, the strongest nicotine concentration, and feel fine, better even, when I stop. But when I'm doing it habitually I get massive cravings for it. It's purely mental. It makes no sense to me, since I literally can't stand the buzz. It's an oral fixation mostly I think. Creepy drug, really. Whenever I stop, I have cravings really bad for like a week and then I barely even think about it anymore. But for some reason I keep going back.

I find vaping a LOT more addictive than cigarettes, because you can do it all the time, you don't have to go outside. I'll find myself hitting it first thing when I wake up and last thing before I go to bed, every few minutes the whole day. Even then I don'[t get any physical withdrawal at all. It's weird because my good friend gets massively anxious, can't sleep, gets super pissed off, and feels like his skin is crawling and can't get comfortable when he doesn't have it. He says it's the worst withdrawals of anything he's experienced.
 
yeah that's the biggest factor honestly. If you had to break the law and deal with sketchy people and risk incarceration, I don't think anywhere NEAR as many people would have such a hard time with it. But it stares you in the face everywhere all the time, so it's hard to get away from.
 
I give up before the e-cig/vape craze hit on. I can remember when those things were unknown and nobody cared about them and I was lucky in that way because that turned into another vice just like smoking cigarettes. It was a nicotene inhalator that I used with scaling doses from high for my heavy use down to when I had cut down to just using the inhalator and didnt need the big hits anymore. It worked for me. It took me 2 months to quit. Quit on my first attempt. That was over 10 years ago now.

That being said, the biggest determining factor for me was having a driving story behind it. You need a captivating story behind it to fuel your motivation, commitment and determination. That becomes your fuel. I see it as needing the worst case scenario to hype you up, think of rescuing your kids from under a car or saving a family from a house fire or some life or death situation. That sounds dramatic but its usually the inner script in our heads that determine whether we make it through and achieve our goals.

For me it was being homeless and living around scum bags. Many of them were known high risk offenders in the area and most were always on license or recall to prison. It was the rough and ready underword of the local area I came from, not pretty. They were all write-offs. I didnt want to find myself in a comparison with them. The thought of seeing myself act like them made me puke. I wanted to be better. I changed my lifestyle choices to reflect that vision of better as well as never becoming complacent in my environment and always seeing it as temporary and me as destined for more. Just the fact I smoked and also took drugs while I watched them do the same and waste away made me see how indifferent I was. A wake-up call.

It came true. I started my mission and worked on my lifestyle choices. Starting working out, mainly swimming for lengths. Did that as many days as I could. Started looking after myself more and treating myself to beauty products, which sounds strange, but it wasnt the products but the intention behind them - to look after myself and have a regimen. Just cleaning my face and brushing my teeth and caring about my appearance reinforced the good habit of not smoking. It was a trigger to reinforce the belief in my mission. I avoided the scum bags at all costs making allowances for irregular encounters in the communal areas. That fuelled me even more.

Any difficult goal needs a narrative. And for me anyway, I need to be in a bad place in order to shine. So my narrative in this example were all about overcoming the odds. Worst case scenarios. The small task of smoking was really about something much more at stake. I didnt want to be where I was at that particular time anymore. No chance I would allow it. I would be different. So quitting smoking was really about something bigger but the vision was so profound that it was imperative to succeed.

There is a saying;
In order to change, the will to change must be greater than the will to stay the same.

In other words, your vision of achieving your goals must be way more than not having one/them. I translate that to having the opportunity to make a living or to live well. Sure, not setting high goals will no doubt not kill you off. You will continue on and life will be average. Just enough, maybe less sometimes, maybe a little more if you are lucky. Or, you can live well and prosper. You just need the means. Your means to do that is right here right now. Its within you. It IS you. Thats a far greater achievement and a far more rewarding process. And it starts with a vision, a goal.

For me it was fairly substantial and tied in with lots of things. That drove me because I needed my goal to reflect my entire life right then and there. It leads me to believe all goals are substantial, even something as maybe trivial as putting a stick in your mouth and lighting it up and inhaling the fumes. Its not solely the thing you want to change. Its your belief in what you want to become and what you will tell yourself in order to become the change.

Its your mindset. You can do this!
 
I smoked cigarettes (15-20 a day, 30-40 on days i drank) for over ten years and used a nicotine vape for an additional four or five. I'm currently around 6 months nicotine free which is the longest I've ever been and I don't see myself every going back to it at this point. Quitting the vape cold turkey was a lot harder than quitting cigarettes had ever been (which I've done multiple times for a few months at a time). I think with vaping It's just too easy to vape all day every day so you end up way more addicted to nicotine than you ever would be just smoking cigarettes. If you use a vape to help quit try not to get comfortable with it for too long (of course long term vaping is surely better than going back to smoking). I found nicotine gum the most helpful thing for tapering down the nicotine after getting cigarettes out of the equation because even after the nicotine is spent (which takes a decent while as long as you don't chew constantly) you've still got the gum keeping your mouth busy which I found makes it easier to put the next piece off for a bit longer each time. On top of that every day I try to wait a little bit longer before having my first piece. After a few weeks of this the physical addiction begins to loosen its grip and I'm able to do the rest cold turkey. I quit (or more accurately overcame the physical addiction, as you're not quit until you stay quit) this way a few times.

If you smoke cannabis with tobacco either switch to something without nicotine such as damiana or switch to a dry herb vape.

Good luck and keep trying. Relapses are part of the process but it'll stick eventually as long as you don't give up.
 
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I was quit for a year using Champix, it worked great. Unfortunately i started again a couple months ago when i tried to get clean. Don't beat yaself up, it's crazy addictive . I heard this years ago, Don't quit quitting . I'm starting the champix again next week.

Good luck to everyone. We can all do it
 
Gonna give quitting a go after I finish this pouch of baccy I got left. Can choose 2 products for free at the pharmacy so will try patches & gum
 
Jennn said:
I was quit for a year using Champix, it worked great. Unfortunately i started again a couple months ago when i tried to get clean. Don't beat yaself up, it's crazy addictive . I heard this years ago, Don't quit quitting . I'm starting the champix again next week.

Good luck to everyone. We can all do it
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Never heard of champix, don't think we get that here in the UK
 
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Never heard of champix, don't think we get that here in the UK
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I just used google and it is available in the UK, varenicline is the drug name and phizer 's patent is expired so there are cheaper generic ones available now.
I was a smoker for 20 years and it helped me quit. I i can do it anyone can.
 
I have been smoking tobacco since the age of 15(mixed with weed) and then started just smoking fags but I only need like 2 drags and I'm good but to this day smoking is one thing I have no trouble quitting infact I feel better if I don't have a fag for a few days I don't even know why I smoke unless I'm tryna nod anyone else like this?
 
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