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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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Says the tubgirl that this wizard made. I don’t need anyone to think I’m a wizard or not btw. I don’t honestly care if people think I’m a real wizard or not. I tell people what I am out of common curiosity, so that people aren’t confused about what am or what I can do? I’m just trying to be being polite, is all!

*back on topic* What I have been wondering is now that the FDA has granted full approval for the Pfizer vaccine, will federal vaccinations for regular citizens now be what’s coming next? Is it now just a matter of time before everyone will need to be vaccinated before anyone can return to normal polite society? Is resistance now futile concerning the COVID-19 vaccination?

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well the feds have never done that before so there's no way i see that happening now...im calling highly doubtful, if not, nearly impossible....that would end in disaster if it were to be tried

i was reading last night, that they're gonna strip all of the ppls vaccine status as being confirmed as vaccinated, until they get the booster.....so if they decide you have to get boosters every 6 to 8 months, does that mean your vaccine pass has a time limit?

im sorry but there's just too much happening in real time and things changing on the fly to just jump right in with any of this
 
it cracks me up tho every time i hear somebody famous, who got the shots, still come down with covid, sick as a dog, and then they still say "well thankfully the shot saved me from having a worse case!"

yea sure - you don't fuckin know that! could've been the same exact situation without the shots....most cases are mild to begin with for christ's sake :laughing:
 


and then you read that.....now tell me, what did all 3 of those ppl do, because they thought they were immune? all at some sort of large gathering because "we got the shot! we're all cured!" and that's just not the case
 

FDA Mistakes: Vioxx​


Vioxx, an anti-inflammatory medication intended to treat arthritis, was the subject of one of the largest recalls in history. After it was approved in 1999, it was prescribed to over 20 million people and was one of the most widely prescribed drugs of 2003. The following year, it was recalled.

While original clinical trials showed no increased risk of heart attack or stroke, later studies revealed a large number of heart attacks associated with the drug. The dangers of Vioxx were made known to the FDA and the drug’s manufacturer, Merck, in 2000.

In 2001, a cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic, Dr. Deepak L Bhatt, proposed to Merck that Vioxx be studied in patients with severe chest pain in 2001. The company declined, saying that, that kind of study would not reflect the typical Vioxx user.

However, what’s more plausible is that Merck was simply more worried about sales. In 2003 alone, Vioxx brought in $2.5 billion. So, instead of letting troubling studies lead to a recall or even any further research, a small warning was added to the box in 2002.

Eventually, however, trials were conducted to test the drug’s long-term effects. But that trial couldn’t even be completed because of the increased risk of heart attack and stroke among participants.

In revealing internal memos that were eventually uncovered, one of the FDA’s own scientists, Dr. David Graham, estimated that Vioxx had been associated with more than 27,000 heart attacks or deaths linked to cardiac problems.
 
now im posting that^ because you don't have to dig too far back to see that the FDA makes mistakes, so im not too sure how the shizer shots being approved really mean much to many
 
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Says the tubgirl that this wizard made. I don’t need anyone to think I’m a wizard or not btw. I don’t honestly care if people think I’m a real wizard or not. I tell people what I am out of common curiosity, so that people aren’t confused about what am or what I can do? I’m just trying to be being polite, is all!

*back on topic* What I have been wondering is now that the FDA has granted full approval for the Pfizer vaccine, will federal vaccinations for regular citizens now be what’s coming next? Is it now just a matter of time before everyone will need to be vaccinated before anyone can return to normal polite society? Is resistance now futile concerning the COVID-19 vaccination?
Okay, you're a wizard. If it makes you feel better. I don't think anything resolutely disagrees with your not being a wizard. I was skeptical at first as I myself dabble in the arts myself. In your eyes though, I'm a contrarian wizard. The wizard who never really agrees with everyone completely and only does when all is well in wizard land, when right now, we can agree, it is not.

As for the second paragraph, that depends on whether it becomes mandatory I guess. I don't think it will. The propaganda has been enough to get lots of people in on the vaccination drive and besides, mandatory vaccinations for COVID-19 will expose the agenda that has been so desperately crafted and sculpted since the beginning, while at the same time, the wheels are falling off, hence more and more people refusing to take it.

My predictions (as a wizard) the narrative will change. You can come back to old finitelifeform when this happens. The narrative will change towards the continuation of the state apparatus built over the last two years, including the global digital infrastructure which will eventually capture everyone and everything within it, think digital fiat currency, vaccine passports transforming into universal ID, more emphasis on work-from-home and the creation of home working bubbles and along with that, home surveillance for employers which already has been touted to include mandatory webcam activation for both video and sound and active spying features that will become integrated into your home as standard in the near future. Property developers are already onto these new design implementations. You will have the Agenda 2030/2050 goals emphasized more so lots more climate change magic and the normalization of everyday restrictions on things like air travel, banning of fossil fuel vehicles (the UK has got this pinned down to 2030 when all vehicles running good 'ole gasoline/diesel will be banned outright), smart grid technology tied in with IOT systems so lots of AI-centric hocus-pocus including less human driven interaction and less human driven anything at all. The goal is to have centralized hubs in cities where all the stuff can be found while draining these services out of neighbouring areas so to get more people into the city and therefore locked into the smart grid system. Amazon already has automated stores setup. Most 'menial' work will be replaced by AI and robots within the next 10-20 years so that means more people will be unemployed which means, a form of UBI (universal basic income) which means more dependent on the state and therefore more power to the state. Something akin to feudalism but perhaps it's better calling it neofeudalism? Basically there will be owners and there will be renters and the majority of the population won't be able to afford most stuff and so will have to rent it from the owners who will eventually be a smaller and smaller percentage of the population. Buying up of farm land by the rich as well as purchasing of real estate and assets that the average person will no longer be able to own or obtain reasonably. Population decline expected around 2030-2040 and a gradual decline until the population of the planet is within what is considered an optimal sustainable range. This has been talked about for many decades and it's not a pretty subject and basically means extermination of the offal that according to these agendas, shouldn't be taking up space and using resources. The UK for example is meant to shrink by some tens of millions over a prolonged period of time.

In general greater restrictions for all and a complete restructuring of our economic models to something akin to stakeholder capitalism as well as something fairly similar to technocracy in terms of the political direction we are headed as of now. This will slowly escalate over a period of what is meant to be around 20-25 years. The goal is by 2050 we have a complete transformation on a global level.
 
it cracks me up tho every time i hear somebody famous, who got the shots, still come down with covid, sick as a dog, and then they still say "well thankfully the shot saved me from having a worse case!"

yea sure - you don't fuckin know that! could've been the same exact situation without the shots....most cases are mild to begin with for christ's sake :laughing:
That isn’t actually the bit that frowns my own brows, as that seat is taken by the bemusing manner in which they, these breakthroughs in the spotlight, are always saying….


I’m fully vaxxed (and thank God btw), but now I’ve got Covid. It’s horrible. I wouldn’t wish it on anybody,

I’m stuck at home now, sick as pig, and I already did my bit.

So do yours, so far reluctant citizen. This things bad. That’s why you all need to join the club.

To me, the line of argument crumbles somewhere.
 
That isn’t actually the bit that frowns my own brows, as that seat is taken by the bemusing manner in which they, these breakthroughs in the spotlight, are always saying….


I’m fully vaxxed (and thank God btw), but now I’ve got Covid. It’s horrible. I wouldn’t wish it on anybody,

I’m stuck at home now, sick as pig, and I already did my bit.

So do yours, so far reluctant citizen. This things bad. That’s why you all need to join the club.

To me, the line of argument crumbles somewhere.

THAT'S EXACTLY IT!

:laughing: :rofl:
 
This just in.....

Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.



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Yet the conclusion remains the same:

“The big picture here is that the vaccines are working and the reason for the spike in the U.S. is we have too little vaccine uptake,” Frieden said."
 
Even mainstream is starting to question the wisdom of the vaccine rollouts -


"The vaccine effectiveness data that we're getting are all over the place," said Deepta Bhattacharya, an immunologist at the University of Arizona.

"It's really hard to know what to make of all this, in part because all of these things are being estimated outside of the context of a clinical trial where you have a lot of control.… Now it's a mess."

This is in line with the theory that vaccination is prolonging the pandemic by pressuring the virus to evolve into more virulent forms that can circumvent the vaccine protection.

That theory has, apparently, been demonstrated -


So either we cut losses now and ride out the worst of the fourth and fifth waves sans boosters, or we take boosters and live with the consequences of having to take vaccinations every few months in perpetuity.

How incredibly convenient for the pharmaceutical companies that their paid-for public servant puppets have marginalized the truth, given them blanket indemnity and a license to print money at our expense.
 
Yet the conclusion remains the same:

“The big picture here is that the vaccines are working and the reason for the spike in the U.S. is we have too little vaccine uptake,” Frieden said."

Running with the narrative that the unvaxxed are causing breakthrough infections on the vaxxed makes a real lot of sense
 
Running with the narrative that the unvaxxed are causing breakthrough infections on the vaxxed makes a real lot of sense
Well it does make a lot of sense, the unvaccinated give the virus lots of room to reproduce, which causes more mutations which causes it to grow into different strains which have properties that the virus didn't have when the vaccines were developed.
 
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Covid isnt going anywhere regardless of our efforts and intelligence.
Vaxxed as well as uvaxxed are spreading the disease. Whats the argument? If the vaxxed gives to unvaxxed it may be deadly? If the unvaxxed give to vaxxed very little happens? Not sure the lines here or the spirit of the contention but ffs where is this getting us? Just for argument sake? For pete?
All viruses evolve... just like every freakin thing in the universe including (supposedly) ourselves. It has since the beginning of know history whay would it change? Why I ask.
I have never got a flue shot but from the data I run across this is not just a flue and do not recall a seasonal flue causing so much pressure on our health care system or those who tend to us when we fall ill. If I was in an er and someone came in with covid and was antivax I would walk right the fuck out and find a career as a comedian.
No one thinks about the avoidable problems this causes to those who are there to ensure our survival and general health? We should all have to do a month long stint in an er in these times and check our mentalities afterward.
But no.... It's all about me, my rights and my god given option to throw out common sense (which was lost long before covid) and fuck everyone else cause I just dont gaf.
The freaking ignorance fueling opposing resistance is just amazing to me and undoubtedly the main cause of all of our issues - just my take.
Trying to come up with a thread idea to foster unifying ideas that could bring us closer together (globally) but no dout this would eventually create another snafu or end in an assassination as this type of ideology commonly rewarded for these efforts.
 

Parachutes and vaccines are not the same thing. You make a choice to open a parachute based solely of your own violition. Doing so does not put political pressure on your society to conform to do the same as you and not use/open a parachute. Vaccine choice is not a choice that implies the same individualistic freedom of which our societies are based. If you choose not to open a parachute in this instance, you are being gaslighted into believing you are killing your friends, family and society at large. This stokes fear, paranoia and psychosis that forces compliance and submission, hence the imposition you will take it and do the "right" thing. Nevertheless, the underlying assumption is you will make a decision predicated solely on group psychology and the notion of complying with the masses and choosing to accept indoctrination into the belief systems that such masses have adopted.

It defies logic. A goal of totalitarian regimes that use similiar tactics though is to use illogical conclusions to thwart logical arguments. A lie can be way more convincing than the truth. We our more emotionally vulnerable to illogical conclusions which opens us up to a paradox of sorts that has us struggle to make sense of what is going on. And then, just on cue, another mind f*ck comes your way until you just surrender and seek to numb your thirst for challenging nonsensical input. This happens in abusive relationships all the time. Its usually the most nonsensical arguments your abuser has that gets you in the worst bind. Its the logical arguments you can counter because, yup, they are logical.

It is pretty simple. Bring a troll to a conference on physics and see what happens. No longer does it become about advanced topics of intellectual debate, now it becomes about a much lower and primitive impulsive set of behaviours that derail the debate but bolster the troll and his intentions. Do this en masse in society and you have a recipe for behavioural modification through manipulation, or essentially, brainwashing/coercive applied psychological techniques. All historical accounts of totalitarian regimes used the same techniques. Its also something Bernays pointed out in his infamous classic book on propaganda. Based on this book were observations taken from his uncle, Sigmund Freud who studied the behaviour of the masses along with Carl Jung too.
 
it cracks me up tho every time i hear somebody famous, who got the shots, still come down with covid, sick as a dog, and then they still say "well thankfully the shot saved me from having a worse case!"

yea sure - you don't fuckin know that! could've been the same exact situation without the shots....most cases are mild to begin with for christ's sake :laughing:

True; by the same token, you don't know that it didn't, though. So rather than on a case by case basis, we should be looking at the total numbers and percentages in aggregate.
 
If I was in an er and someone came in with covid and was antivax I would walk right the fuck out and find a career as a comedian.
Yeah exactly. Because, starters, how fucking, well just tragic above unfortunate really, but misguided it is for them to pannickingly flock there, expecting the Allopathic system, owned by Big Pharma, to actually…help?

We can help ourselves, for the very mostpart, by being properly stationed to effectively treat any Covid any of us might get.


Still no slight indication of a fresh, new Covid contraction since that initial bout in September, 11 months ago so encouraging that virus, because to suddenly be getting Covid 4 times a year, longside lots others…

But to my surprise, that isn’t happening. I’ll keep monitor though ofc.
 
I thought this was an interesting opinion piece about deathbed vaccine regret was interesting in light of the compassion fatigue and hospital overcrowding that is occurring.


The tragedy of deathbed vaccine regrets​

The most recent surge of COVID in the United States has bred a new type of narrative — call it the "vaccination regrets" genre. These stories feature people who didn't get the vaccine, were often aggressive in mocking those who chose to get their shots, then came to regret their choices as they got sicker and sicker, and then died. You probably recognize some of the names and stories. Phil Valentine, the conservative Nashville talk show host, died this weekend after once recording a Beatles parody called "Vaxman." Scott Apley, a Texas Republican, died earlier this month after calling a vaccine-promoting health official "an absolute enemy of a free people." There has been and will be more of this kind of coverage. Much of it is laden with schadenfreude, a just barely hidden sense of glee. There is something ugly about it all.

Within the "regrets" genre a particularly heartbreaking type of tale has also emerged, about parents who have died and left their kids to grow up without a father, a mother, or both.

There is Josh Tidmore, an Alabamian who died on Aug. 11, leaving three kids behind. He once posted online that he didn't "believe 99.9% of what's said about this virus." His wife, Christina, is now pleading with other families to get vaccinated.
"Nobody should go through this," she told the Associated Press. "He was only 36 and I'm 35 and we have three kids."

There is also Cindy Dawkins, an unvaccinated mother of four who died of COVID earlier this month. Now her children — two adults, a 15-year-old, and a 12-year-old — are fighting to keep the family together. "We're in survival mode right now, trying to make sure that we have everything situated with the two younger siblings, getting guardianship and everything over them so we all can stay together," said Jenny Burrows, Dawkins' 24-year-old daughter.

And there is Michael Freedy, an unvaccinated 39-year-old who left behind five children ranging in age from 17 months to 17 years old. As he became aware of the severity of his illness, his fiance told the Sacramento Bee, Freedy became frantic. "He's panicking, saying how he doesn't wanna die and he doesn't wanna leave his babies without a dad," she said.

Unfortunately, that's precisely what he did.
These kinds of stories are also increasingly common. (Sometimes they even cross over: Apley, the Texas Republican, had a newborn son who will never know his father.) And I don't point them out to mock or disparage the families involved — they deserve our unmitigated sympathy and support. But these deaths, and deaths like them, are unnecessary tragedies of choice.

Every parent who chooses not to get vaccinated is indeed responsible for that choice, and every choice has a different story behind it — but it is also the case that there is a political-media ecosystem that has been dedicated to encouraging and defendingvaccine hesitancy. To a large degree, anti-vaccine and anti-mask sentiment have become markers of conservative identity that will be difficult to dislodge. "Humans are equipped with some of evolution's finest mental circuitry to protect us from changing our minds when doing so might alienate us from our group," Jonathan Rauch observes in his new book, The Constitution of Knowledge. "We have hundreds of thousands of years of practice at believing whatever will keep us in good standing with our tribe, even if that requires denying, discounting, rationalizing, misperceiving, and ignoring the evidence in front of our nose." The processes that have led to widespread vaccine aversion among Republicans is, if nothing else, profoundly human — something to be both mourned and opposed.

But one of the profoundest duties of parenthood is to put aside your own nonsense for the sake of your child's welfare. That includes dispensing with ideological baggage when necessary. In the case of COVID, that doesn't just mean protecting your children directly from the virus — though that is extremely important, given how the Delta variant has led to a rise in pediatric hospitalizations across the South and Midwest. It also means taking care of yourself and avoiding unnecessary risks so that you can be around to provide your child with the sustenance, care and comfort they need while growing up.
It means getting vaccinated against the coronavirus, even if you don't want to.

Maybe you're an unvaxxed parent. Perhaps you're worried about the side effects of the shot, or simply think COVID isn't a big threat. Maybe you just don't like other people telling you what to do. All I can tell you is that the numbers don't lie, and they say the vast majority of people fighting and dying of COVID in America's hospitals are unvaccinated, and at this point they're often not that old. The bottom line is unavoidable.

As always, the decision to vaccinate is not simply a personal choice. It affects everybody who depends on or cares for you. We're getting fresh stories on a regular basis from families who regret a loved one's choice not to protect their health. For the love of your children, parents: Please get your shots.
 
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