Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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@Mr. Krinkle

Okay. Enjoy your evening.

 

[AutoTripper]

I think this is on-topic ish at least as related to virus etc

On dozens of occasions I've seen you post stuff like " x virus is in liver, covid only now detected in bladder" and so on

I have never once in my life heard anyone be able to say such things, and with such certainty too

I'd truly love to know by what means are you aware of this? And by 'this', I mean - how do you know where the virus 'goes' and 'settles etc? And how are the many viral infections you have/had identified in the first place?

Now, I don’t expect this to be treated or regarded with any credibility, but I’ve touched on it around can’t remember where? It is rare, and untypical.

Which is the whole point in my stance. My passion. I have had access to a very highly, lifelong trained operator of an advanced Vega system diagnostic machine.

It’s kind of similar or a version of the better known “biofeedback” diagnostic models.

I’m very in tune with my body, like a hawk. From Lyme’s onset, becoming abnormally ultra sensitive to everything, and already by nature very bodily intuitive in how
I fare with all, any foods, drugs, …

The vega testing is fully endorsed in Germany, and Holland, used in mainstream hospitals, dentists, doctors.

It’s a remarkably pinpoint diagnostic tool, it does require proactive, competent operating.

I once took 9 samples I’m sure it was, of weed we had harvested. Numbered, not labelled.

One of the plants, the only Photoperiod, a Skunk No 1, the second I Vaporized it it,I instantly felt major throat and airway irritation identical to infection,

I had ongoing infection symptoms particularly in my throat and left side of lung. The whole plant was unusable, as great as it was.

I took 3 samples of it mixed randomly in those 9 samples of earlier harvested Autoflowers, no damp, zero infection type reactions at all.

All 3 samples displayed Asperigillus Niger, the other 6 showed no signs.

At the same time, the Aspergillus Niger, aka Black Mold, was detected in those exact main areas I was suffering the notable infection symptoms- throat, left lung, and bladder which is nothing vs the respiratory infections.

I injured my optic nerve unfortunately in early 2016. On a June visit, me not saying a word, having long ago deducted the issue was most surely some harm to the right side, specifically of my optic nerve.

At the time, Feb 16th 2016, it was as traumatic and shocking experience and change I ever knew. It altered my ability to concentrate, mentally and visually, especially refocusing, for daily amenity tasks etc.

I lost pleasure in sight of…TV…Nature…anything.

I can still see, I never think of it now, like my tinnitus, not, a problem lol!

But the optic nerve injury did heal over time.

Instantly after the accident, it scared me to hell. I turned head, blurry, a 6 second lag for my vision to move around and come into focus, every time I turned my head, feeling really nauseous too.

It settled down, but I had never felt more not right. Like, major MDMA acute brainshock.

It took me a few years of gradual nerve healing and time, to come to terms with the depression, silly I know. I wasn’t blind. Could walk, talk etc.

But the nerve injury, affected my anxiety condition directly. Like being on a freak out phase of a drug experience, biological.

It made me deeper, more philosophical. More psychic even?

Point. Just one other specific, of many many equally specific examples, without me saying a word, upon Vega testing later that June, she immediately said…some damage to the right side of the optic nerve.

It was also indicated as being directly “related” (not causal) to a particular one of those Coxsackies I go on bout, the B4. In nervous system, they exploit and attack weaknesses.

I could go on boring. But it’s Vega testing, by a very competent longterm operator from Holland.

It scans the entire body via acupressure points, to pick up all frequencies and vibrations present and exactly where, and more.

Everything has a unique frequency/vibration. Even non living things. Herbs, supplements, drugs. It’s truth that.

This Vega diagnosis tool works on that concept.

It is only with the use of this diagnostic tool, that I am able to keep such a rarely precise monitor, observation, and memory for reflection over time.

But, please stay open here on this, and don’t just assume…of oh this lady said, so you think that etc.

Without the diagnosis, my surviving depends upon e being acutely aware and observant of all new incoming infections, allergic reactions, and gauge what I’m dealing with each and every time and what it will take.

I know my infections, like a junkie comes to know their drugs. And so much more I’m conscious of going on, the Vega testing has been invaluable to fill in many missing gaps, plus I’ve tested it blindly with many many different supplements, herbs, drugs over years, ones that kill me, ones that I do brill with.

It has always checked out identically.

I don’t expect to be taken seriously. But this stuff is legit, and as precise as can be.

 

[Xorkoth]

So Delta was already in motion tho when the vaccine rollout began, so im not too sure that even if 100% of ppl got the shots, we;d be in the clear...we wouldn't be

we'd have less ppl in the hospital supposedly right? but delta would still be raging because of how ineffective the vaccines are against it to begin with....again, maybe some less severe symptoms, but that would really be it....we'd still have mutations because it's still able to infect ppl

the thought that the current vaccines alone can end this needs to be rethought


and Russia, they're just interested in keeping us divided to keep us occupied with internal problems - that's all that is

perhaps it wouldn't end it, but it would prevent a whole lot of serious illness and relegate this to something more along the lines of a cold or flu, which we're all used to dealing with already. But you're right, delta was already in play when the vaccine rollout began. I first heard about it after I got my vaccines though, but who knows. India wouldn't have been vaccinated and it was first seen there. So you're right we'd still be dealing with it, but it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal.

Agreed about Russia, I wasn't sure how you saw it though.

 

[oldmanjingles]

perhaps it wouldn't end it, but it would prevent a whole lot of serious illness and relegate this to something more along the lines of a cold or flu, which we're all used to dealing with already. But you're right, delta was already in play when the vaccine rollout began. I first heard about it after I got my vaccines though, but who knows. India wouldn't have been vaccinated and it was first seen there. So you're right we'd still be dealing with it, but it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal.

Agreed about Russia, I wasn't sure how you saw it though.

Russia is not simply doing what they do to keep us divided and focused on domestic issues ( I assume the unspoken part was, and not on them) See The Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin. I know you didn't say this and were just replying to the person who did, but I thought this might interest you. Putin's russian mobligharcy is a malignant cancer on the world, and needs to be stopped.

Also re: vaccines....the states with the lowest vaccination rates are seeing their hospital systems collapse as we speak. Take that for what its worth. Hospitalization rates and covid deaths are strongly inversely correlated to vaccination rates. Probably just a coincidence though.....

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Ok here we go on some numbers from vaccinated people:

now idk how accurate they are, im not living by them, or anything along those lines - just interesting tidbits that i like to post from what i've read:


Vaccine breakthrough cases increase across U.S.

The CDC’s latest breakthrough numbers, as of Aug. 2, show 7,525 fully vaccinated people with COVID breakthrough cases. Of those, 7,525 people were hospitalized and 1,507 people died.

A breakthrough case refers to anyone who is diagnosed with COVID after being fully vaccinated. A person is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the second dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccine, or two weeks after receiving the single-dose Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine.

In May, the CDC revised its guidance for reporting breakthrough cases, stating it would count only those cases that result in hospitalization or death. Previously, the agency had included in its breakthrough count anyone who tested positive for COVID.

According to the CDC, the surveillance system for breakthrough cases is passive and relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments, which may not be complete. In addition, some breakthrough cases will not be identified due to lack of testing. This is particularly true in instances of asymptomatic or mild illness, the CDC said.

The Oregon Health Authority released COVID vaccine breakthrough data Aug. 6, recording a total of 4,196 breakthrough cases through July 31.

In July, there were 12,514 total cases of COVID in Oregon with one out of every five (19%) occurring in people who were fully vaccinated, according to the Oregon Health Authority.

About 1 in 10 severe cases of COVID requiring hospitalization or resulting in death occurred in individuals who were vaccinated. Out of 55 COVID related deaths, 9% occurred in individuals who were vaccinated.

According to the Arizona Department of Health Services, 11% of the new COVID cases in July were breakthrough cases — an increase from 5% in May and 8% in June. The state health department said the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna is about 90%, so the numbers are not unexpected even though the percentage of cases is rising.

New data from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health (DPH) showed 100 people who had been fully vaccinated died of COVID in the state by the end of July. In about three-quarters of the breakthrough cases, patients reported having underlying conditions, DPH said. The median age of those who died was 82.5 years.

According to a CDC study from Aug. 6, 469 COVID cases were identified among residents of Barnstable County, Massachusetts with 436 cases (74%) occurring in people who were fully vaccinated.

The Louisiana Department of Health (LDH) released data held secret for months about which COVID vaccines produced the most breakthrough cases, WBRZ reported.

The data released Friday by LDH after a series of requests from the WBRZ Investigative Unit showed among fully vaccinated people with breakthrough infections and who had severe health outcomes such as hospitalization or death, 41% received Moderna, 52% received Pfizer and 6% received Johnson and Johnson’s COVID vaccine.

LDH reiterated that in its statement: “The number of people who received each type of vaccine is not equal… [so many factors in the data] further cloud any conclusions one can draw from these numbers.”

Between July 22 and July 28, 10% of new cases that week were breakthrough cases. In that same period, 16% of deaths occurred in people who had been vaccinated.

Of 422 people hospitalized in Baton Rouge hospitals as of Aug. 6, 59 were fully vaccinated.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Moderna Vaccine Is Better Than Pfizer-BioNTech at Tackling Delta Variant, US Study Found

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine’s efficacy has dropped to 42 percent from 76 percent since the Delta variant took hold.

observer.com

and that would make sense of why Israel is having a tough time because i think they're 100% pfizer

you would think they would know not to trust the Germans by now

 

[thujone]

I'm curious what people who are against the vaccine think about the fact that they caught a Russian group the other day operating a massive vaccine disinformation campaign? Does that say anything to you about this whole thing? Maybe they're just trying to get everyone to want their vaccine? Or else spreading societal discord.

I didn't hear about this.

I did hear about...

Johnson & Johnson Settles Talc Mesothelioma Case

Johnson & Johnson Settles Talc Mesothelioma Case – The jury was one of the first to hear the U.S. FDA found asbestos in some J&J talcum powder.

www.dmlawfirm.com

and...

OxyContin-maker Purdue Pharma enters final phase to settle thousands of lawsuits

Bankruptcy judge to begin considering settlement as most of the groups with claims against Purdue are on board with the plan

www.theguardian.com

for a lark I just googled "pfizer settlement" and got one of many very official looking sources...

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History

American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together “Pfizer”) have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from...

www.justice.gov

WASHINGTON – American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together "Pfizer") have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products, the Justice Department announced today.

Isn't it fortuitous that all these pharmaceutical companies being slammed financially are suddenly able to turn a healthy profit selling a vaccine that was miraculously ready to go just a year into a pandemic? What good luck for these totally innocent parties...

 

[AutoTripper]

I didn't hear about this.

I did hear about...

Johnson & Johnson Settles Talc Mesothelioma Case

Johnson & Johnson Settles Talc Mesothelioma Case – The jury was one of the first to hear the U.S. FDA found asbestos in some J&J talcum powder.

www.dmlawfirm.com

and...

OxyContin-maker Purdue Pharma enters final phase to settle thousands of lawsuits

Bankruptcy judge to begin considering settlement as most of the groups with claims against Purdue are on board with the plan

www.theguardian.com

for a lark I just googled "pfizer settlement" and got one of many very official looking sources...

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History

American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together “Pfizer”) have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from...

www.justice.gov

Isn't it fortuitous that all these pharmaceutical companies being slammed financially are suddenly able to turn a healthy profit selling a vaccine that was miraculously ready to go just a year into a pandemic? What good luck for these totally innocent parties...

I think I posted references to those exact malpractices days ago too.

 

[thujone]

sorry, I don't check the thread daily. there's only so many times I can see/hear being told that I'm just a silly idiot being brainwashed by "misinformation" like there's no rational reason for anyone to not be totes psyched about getting jabbed up ten times a year.

ps. @Xorkoth - I don't mean that's what you're implying just that it's typically what comes after "misinformation"

 

[Yourbaker]

So I'll leave this thread now.

It's very apparent from the actual numbers these current vaccines are limited in their scope and may provide some level of personal protection for individuals whom haven't contracted covid. As for building a wall of immunity it has failed to be effect enough. 80% leaves a huge hole.

I do think I'd like to have my government stop funding this foolishness. A real vaccine we need, the pharmaceutical companies we are using only love our money, not us.

Perhaps make it an option like the yearly flu shot you can opt for the current covid booster and feel safe, for maybe $80 A pop.

For the time being I'll sit on the immunity I get from having had covid and I'll wait til the foolish restriction are removed. I would like to see the American border shut again. Nothing against our neighbours except our province is really on fire and even hotels are hard to come by due to the massive evacuations currently misplacing people. Diseases spread best when the population is all stirred up. The smoke is seriously thick and it's still hot replan to visit us for ski season.

 

[Hannah Capps]

And all seriousness, I’ll revisit this thread in about 12 months to a few years. unfortunately many will and have already had complications from this mutagenic injection. Either by being disabled or just dead. It’s very troubling.

 

[AutoTripper]

sorry, I don't check the thread daily. there's only so many times I can see/hear being told that I'm just a silly idiot being brainwashed by "misinformation" like there's no rational reason for anyone to not be totes psyched about getting jabbed up ten times a year.

ps. @Xorkoth - I don't mean that's what you're implying just that it's typically what comes after "misinformation"

It’s okay, I wasn’t getting at that, implying you should have, and that there was no appropriateness in what you posted.

I was simply sharing the fact it appears those are the same exact cases but a different report I too shared.

I feel you, I’m the number one self made target for ridicule and disbelief around here.

So I was really just saying- Great minds…

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

And all seriousness, I’ll revisit this thread in about 12 months to a year.

is that 12 months to a year, whichever comes first, or just somewhere in between those two?

 

[Hannah Capps]

is that 12 months to a year, whichever comes first, or just somewhere in between those two?

thanks for the humor. I’ve not gotten much sleep in the last week. But I appreciate your pointing out my egregious error.

 

[Xorkoth]

I didn't hear about this.

Russian Disinformation Targets Vaccines and the Biden Administration

A new campaign appears to be spreading falsehoods about the potential for forced inoculations against Covid-19.

www.nytimes.com

WSJ News Exclusive | Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Pfizer, Other Covid-19 Vaccines, U.S. Officials Say

Russian intelligence agencies are trying to undermine confidence in Pfizer’s and other Western coronavirus vaccines, using online publications that have questioned the vaccines’ development and safety, U.S. officials said.

www.wsj.com

Facebook bans Russian disinformation campaign that said vaccines turn people into chimpanzees

Facebook has targeted and removed a Russian disinformation campaign that claimed that coronavirus vaccines could turn people into chimpanzees.Facebook took down 65 Facebook accounts and 243 In…

thehill.com

Among others. I heard about it on NPR and then looked it up.

And all seriousness, I’ll revisit this thread in about 12 months to a few years. unfortunately many will and have already had complications from this mutagenic injection. Either by being disabled or just dead. It’s very troubling.

Please do, I look forward to letting you know I'm still alive and still haven't had any health problems. There is no evidence to suggest the mRNA vaccines cause genetic mutations, that's disinformation. But I guess we'll see, I know I'm not going to change your mind.

 

[AutoTripper]

Please do, I look forward to letting you know I'm still alive and still haven't had any health problems. There is no evidence to suggest the mRNA vaccines cause genetic mutations, that's disinformation. But I guess we'll see, I know I'm not going to change your mind.

I hope you are man, I really do. I may not be myself, C regardless, but could well be. I’ll be fairly ajoyed in such an event. Who knows, I may see 80. Who knows?

Personally I’m not banking on that, but I’d take it now in a deal or no deal scenario.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Time is a very funny thing though. It spins me out sometimes, it’s said to be an illusion fundamentally, which I can buy.

I swear there are some loopholes and anomalies though.

For example, I forgot about this checking it right out when my head was straighter, supposedly.

But this year, we literally germinated our Autoflowers seeds on the 1st of May.

We aim for, expect, 13 weeks from seed, typically.

Which is 3 “Months” surely right?

May only has 2 extra days to 4 weeks, June 3 extra. So 5 days up going into July. It stunned me to suddenly realise 13 weeks had passed on July 17th.

I’m sure the Maths add up, but in my head it seemed like some change was missing. I forgot about that, got busy with harvest soon after.

im kinda anti-autoflowering so i don't run those, but when i run my plants, the day i flip the lights to 12-12, i write it down on a calendar as day 1 of flower, and go from there - im all about a paper calendar too so i can use a pen and look at it on the wall - im very anti-digital calendar

all i know, is that it took forever to be aged 15 to aged 18, but it took 5 minutes to go from 30 yrs old to 40 yrs old and it keeps going quicker

Johnson & Johnson vs. Pfizer vs. Moderna Vaccines

Currently, there are THREE viable COVID-19 vaccines - Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen Johnson & Johnson. What are the differences? Similarities? Side-effects? In this article, we compare all three.

nurse.org

so now if you read that article, which is dated March 19, 2021 - they even state at the bottom:

"Similar to the other vaccines, Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine does not prevent you from developing COVID-19. It merely helps protect you from developing a severe case of it. It is still possible to become infected despite being properly vaccinated. "


which furthers my statement, that initially they were saying that it wouldn't stop transmission of covid, then they said it did, and then they said it didn't again - but what surprises me, is all the people that are surprised upon hearing for the second time, that it wouldn't have an effect on transmission

 

[thujone]

@Xorkoth I think I see what's going on here -

from one article:

A subsidiary of a United Kingdom-registered marketing firm called Fazze was found to be behind the campaign that targeted users in India, Latin America and the United States, although the campaign to the U.S. was much smaller. The company is now permanently banned from the platforms.

So, mostly marketing to countries where Sputnik is actually an option:

List of COVID-19 vaccine authorizations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hang on though...

Fazze spent around $200 for ads on Instagram and Facebook, with 24,000 accounts following their Instagram accounts.

Ok... that's not much of a story.

The campaign included misinformation posts with one example Facebook included in the report saying "astrazeneca created a vaccine based on chimpanzee genes, when tests showed side effects, this vaccine should be banned, otherwise we will all become chimpanzees."

I mean that's just funny. I dunno if it's worth $200 but it's pretty weird to spin this joke into a long-form article like the NYT did (seriously).

Heh, remember high-school, when you had a thousand word essay due in the morning but not enough primary sources? Gotta fill the page with something! AAAHH!!!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

and then ya got this:

Health officials recommend people who attended Watershed Music Festival get tested for COVID-19

A multi-county COVID-19 outbreak associated with the Watershed Music Festival has been reported by the Grant County Health District.

mynorthwest.com

now, if you notice, they're not asking if you're vaccinated or not for a reason - BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/breakthrough-covid-19-cases-may-be-a-bigger-problem.html

"Many people have tried to stay in line with the official public-health message — whether that’s because they don’t have enough confidence in their own understanding of how the virus works or if it’s because they want to stay consistent with the public-health message of the country, I don’t know. It’s never been clear to me why. I think everyone has their own reasons for not being willing to be a little bit more outspoken during this, particularly given that the official message has often been weeks or months behind the virus. But I think the message that breakthrough cases are exceedingly rare and that you don’t have to worry about them if you’re vaccinated — that this is only an epidemic of the unvaccinated — that message is falling flat. If this was still Alpha, sure. But with Delta, plenty of people are getting sick. Plenty of transmission is going on. And my personal opinion is that the whole notion of herd immunity from two vaccine doses is flying out the window very quickly with this new variant. And it’s probably going to fly out the window even more quickly with the variants to come."


that's a good read - i highly recommend you read that article - its not anti-vaxx - just the state of things