Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[Noodle]

Now you trollin' Mr Krinkles.

That's cute of you.

On topic:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-things-to-know-delta-variant-covid

 

[AutoTripper]

It's not nanobots like Star Trek borg type technology. They make it sound cleverer than it is. Though it is difficult to encapsulate the material effectively, and most of the trouble is getting that step just right. Many drugs are delivered in a similar way nowadays though, as delivery to the right place (achieving high bioavailability) is usually the big challenge.

I don’t actually think they are humanly capable of making it sound a fraction as clever as it really is.

I mean, Jesus, mortal man somehow invented and tooled this level of technology, which I don’t buy because honestly I can’t imagine a single living human being versed in language possibly being able to explain in words or understand how this stuff was created let alone create it.

I’ve never been into thinking about Aliens one bit. But I’ve always been open to the suggestion or idea that we have been handed alien technology.

Bill Gates made the internet right? Or played a part. I consider he was given it.

You can’t do this type of technology explanatory justice in our mortal tongue.

And we are not told about a mere fraction of it anyway, there would be ways of expressing and highlighting a great deal of it of course, in our real world terms, but that’s very different to actually designing things in the first place.

And again exactly, the nanotech is already in other medicines as a delivery agent. It’s got many avenues into the body where it accumulates and is by definition an alien substance, but that’s in terrestrial (never used this word in this context before) terminology.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Noodles over here with his infinite wisdom "just do what the CDC tells you to do!"

 

[AutoTripper]

Would that make us all test-tube babies?

Well, yes. But I still can’t dismiss there being a higher divine power. If there isn’t, we’re fucked lol.

 

[Skorpio]

it is the natural cells!! ohmygod!!! the things they describe as nano-robots are natuarally occurring..... they have been around for millions of years. you're basically claiming that all of life is man made if you're gonna stick with your interpretation.

@Skorpio can you please back me up here? i can't even, and this is mor eyour expertise than mine.

i'm not debating that nanotechnology exists i actually did a post doc in a nanomedicine research group. but the video is an analogy. no technology is described in that video. only cell biology.

one thousandth of a square millimeter (i.e. square micrometer) in size is fucking huge on the molecular level. a ribosome is orders of magnitude smaller than that and a kinase is orders of magntude smaller again. we can actually now build things up atom by atom.... but in an inredibly controlled environment, and a cell is noisy as fuck we probably couldn't even get an accurate potential energy surface for a ribosome with our current calculating ability so being able to control something built on that scale is outside the limits of our current technology- our understanding of quantum mechanics isn't good enough. it probably never will be unless we build a quantum computer or better algorithms for classical computers, but they may not be possible, we won't know til we've solved P vs NP.

Chinup is right on the money with that video. The "nano machines" are the various proteins in the cell that allow for the complex function of life.

For example they showed a kinesin molecular motor. These carry cargo throughout the cell by repeatedly binding and releasing two separate "feet" to move down microtubules. Movement is produced through the energy released by breaking a molecule of ATP.

Humans don't have nano technology that has the subtle function of proteins (we are competing against a process that has had billions of years of refinement). Much of nanomedicine is simply making nanoscale capsules for drugs that break apart under certain chemical conditions. These are passive actors unlike proteins in cells that convert chemical energy into movement and growth.

The limits of human nanotechnology when it comes to medicine tends to be the creation of passive or semi passive objects to assist drug delivery or imaging. Things like biosensors that get the name nano appended to them tend to be of a much larger scale (honestly it often feels like nano is just a buzzword, people will use it even if it is like 10% correct).


I'm not gonna touch on Morgellons. I think it is futile to try to convince anybody that it isn't real. Really swimming upstream against an ocean of misinformation that suits existing narratives. It is hard enough convincing folks that proteins and organelles are natural biological components of cells.

 

[Yourbaker]

I haven't read all 42 pages in this thread so there may be a post already answering this.

I keep hearing supporters of the current semi-working vaccinations saying that people like myself who have been repeatedly exposed to covid and never had it actually have an effect on us need to go get untested semi working vaccinations because they are frightened of us (who appear to be immune) spreading a virus that isn't effecting us.

Please before you start yelling about variants have a vaccine for the variant or don't bother me. I'm not going to risk grandfathered immunity from a vaccine that's only purpose was to make money.

Look very hard at why you are afraid and how your fear is making you feel you need to control others. If you are fearful can you truly think clearly?

Again I'm not at all opposed to you getting a vaccine. When we have a working vaccine that doesn't only maybe work 70% and kills a few people I'll be happy to get it. Right now it's carp, I've worked along side multiple infected people and even had a false positive test so the virus has landed on me just never stuck or I was asymptomatic. I did my self isolation and yet I never got sick, nor did my partner who has stayed isolated for nearly 2 years.

 

[mal3volent]

the very odd story that just keeps changing.

in other words, science...

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

right - the science changes and i'd rather watch it change from the sidelines until all you people get your heads on straight about it and stop trying to push your shots on me and make it like we're eating babies just for being cautious

i have a few friends that had it and are pissed that they're recommending to still get the shots when we all know that the vaccine is no way better than natural immunity no matter how you try to sell that to us

 

[Yourbaker]

in other words, science...

Since there isn't an icon for you obviously don't understand what I said but happily misquoted it I just gave you a haha icon.

Science isn't being reported. Drama is being reported.

Science I can go read any time so I did. Now I understand enough to know media hype isn't correct and the story of get one get two mix and match don't mix and match beware blood clots is just drama and it's changing daily.

What stupidity will you fears cause you to do today? I don't have any so my answer is nothing at all.

 

[mal3volent]

I don't have any so my answer is nothing at all.

You have no fears? Wow.

 

[Yourbaker]

Now your just trolling on the board you're the administrator of.

 

[birdup.snaildown]

Looking forward to my booster shot. Good luck to all you anti-vaxxers when the rest of us are back to normal. Perhaps you can make your own society?

 

[AutoTripper]

right - the science changes and i'd rather watch it change from the sidelines until all you people get your heads on straight about it and stop trying to push your shots on me and make it like we're eating babies just for being cautious

i have a few friends that had it and are pissed that they're recommending to still get the shots when we all know that the vaccine is no way better than natural immunity no matter how you try to sell that to us

Covid is simply not meant, planned, intended to be cured.

It’s been stated, pretty officially I can’t recall where now sure I could find it, but do your own digging you’re all better at it anyway, that booster shots will be required for years to ward off ever newly emerging variants as vaccine immunity will wane.

So they have said, you’re fully jabbed, and we have ADMITTED that if you are infected with (a) variant basically, the Delta atm, you will have a thousand times the nasal pharynx viral load.

But it’s okay right because the chances of that happening are so so low.

Well they are predicting vaccines to wear off, and booster shots to be an essential requirement.

So going forwards, if your jabbed status is and alleged immunity is dependant on a continuous indefinite stream of shots, the schedule of which is dictated by whatever the fuck the government says on the telly that day, basically, and if your immunity to a new variant will certainly fade and need topping up, then if the Delta variant is known to be that much higher a load, what happens when in time everybody is as defenceless against a breakthrough with a new variant and your viral counts are a thousand times higher.

What if the news says it’s a highly highly infectious super aggressive new variant?

What if 90% are jabbed by then, and therefore when this thing sweeps across nations, do the maths.

Vaccinating billions= Billions x thousand viral load, inside human bodies and able to transmit.

That is your back to norma in a year?

There is no back to normal. This is not a business venture ever intended to end.

People can hurl whatever. This is critical thinking. Is this logic not abundantly obvious?

It looks like a recipe for a massiver variant pandemic, panicked rushed queues to get the next available jab, oh phew I got my weekly booster shot I can relax now, I did my bit, do yours, this new variant doesn’t fuck about, you’re risking other’s lives who have been doing the right, honourable thing all the time taking every jab (suggested!), who are in massively greater danger as a result if they are to catch the new variant which could and surely will spread like wildfire.

Weekly jabs? Twice a week? Where else is this actually going?

 

[PtahTek]

Can I just get a booster of h once a day to keep the boogy man away?

we have ADMITTED that if you are infected with (a) variant basically, the Delta atm, you will have a thousand times the nasal pharynx viral load.

Still cannot find a citation for this info. I have heard/read that the loads were essentially the same but I feel the info quoted must have been snatched from the masses to ensure security of the nation.

 

[AutoTripper]

Can I just get a booster of h once a day to keep the boogy man away?

Still cannot find a citation for this info. I have heard/read that the loads were essentially the same but I feel the info quoted must have been snatched from the masses to ensure security of the nation.

I really expect you will be hearing about it more fairly soon. These things are brought in gradually. If this really is though, the paradigm of the ongoing future prognosis, then I really feel that my points above stand strongly and are very valid and logical.


Edit…whoops. The Fauci quote. I posted it here. His words exactly. I’ll dig it for you but wasted today on…yes, kava, weed, Etiz but not too much Etiz.

 

[PtahTek]

I’ll dig it for you

Dont fret, bro.
It all comes back around, unfortunately.
Will catch it in the background static that pervades our lives and drives our fears. lol
Enjoy your day and slap that anxiety inda face.
One

 

[PtahTek]

Fauci for prez?

 

[AutoTripper]

Dont fret, bro.
It all comes back around, unfortunately.
Will catch it in the background static that pervades our lives and drives our fears. lol
Enjoy your day and slap that anxiety inda face.
One

Thanks man, you too. Good vibes always.

I’m honestly trying to present a solid, logically unbiased perspective on this.

My questions, statements but open questions too.

This divide, the growing hate, maybe not yet fully conscious to most, “us”! a big barricade.

I don’t blame anyone honestly, I know the pressure level, well a glimpse, on our Australian friends here, so Im not judging or taking personally.

But I don’t see me doing wrong. We have now been clearly categorised, defined, as the obstacle. To return to normal. And our own separate society comments, cough on the weak etc….that is your pudding! Social engineering, it’s real shit man, can’t be denied without gross naivety IMO.

Have a good day there too man. Im chilled out now, somehow.

 

[AutoTripper]

Fauci for prez?

Haha. Better than Harris actually.

Here anyway bro.

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Edit. I’m wondering more unsurely than usual to receive at least some strong objections for all of this.
Normally though by now, I swear, I’d have been debunked, mocked outta town lol, way already.

But my skin a little thicker today, I’ve really tried to talk sense and reason from a totally logical and un biased view my own beliefs and decisions. And I do care for everybody.

 

[PtahTek]

Hey if it makes anyone feel better (it kinda does me), we all gonna, have and will play the roles of frankenstein and his bride.
Just a matter of time before the wheel turns. Imma roll with it and hopefully bounce with it.
I know ya care about this community... ya been hammerin tryin to save us all since the beginning I love the tenacity. Mostly I had to form an opinion and then hold that for a minute to see if it holds water. Now Im swimmin in this muck and glad now we on a mountain. Well .. not in the vally proper. lol Always

Better than Harris:
errrr uhhhmmmm, plz dont say because she is a she. if so, would it be copastetic if she became a he?