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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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cduggles said:
Ummm, okay. Good information from everyone. Nice sharing. 😄
Now, you all know what I’m going to write next. Wouldn’t it be so much fun to be on topic? 🤭
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You are nice you know. But balance is needed in the classroom ofc…
 
nanobots....

anyway....
chinup said:
i wish we could do similar with covid, i really do. but while anti vaxxers are allowed to spout their shit and a large portion of the population remains unvaccinated, and borders to places with lower vaccination rates remain open so that each country gets new strains of sars-cov2 regularly. its not going to happen.
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see that right there? you blame most of the problem on "anti-vaxxers" and then you wonder why we look at you like you're Dr. Frankenstein's assistant
 
chinup said:
i never said i was!! anyone vaguely competent at what i do could do it but there is no other such person in this thread. if you read the first reference i mentioned to you, spike by jeremy farrar...... there is a good portion of a chapter of himself and other way more illustrious people than me thinking it must be man made. then digging deeper and seeing it wasn't. a LOT of people way better at their jobs than me have evaluated the hypothesis of this bring s man made virus then had to reject it.



we are being lied to but that doesn't mean f you go to the sources- i.e. publications in decent journals, not news sites and politicians, that those are lies. some are incorrect which is why we have retractions.

in that respect its no different to most other viruses!!!! how is it different to flu? the burden of covid overall is way way higher, when you take into account every aspect of the economy, than killing a few old people would save.

we had similar here and there is a huge scandal about it. covid positive people were shipped out to care homes cos they needed space in hospital. its disgusting

agree. this was preventable.

erm.... there were loads of different smallpox vaccines dating back all the way to edward jenner..... they also had debilitating side effects in a small minority. the eradication of smallpox was amazing, a huge international effort that took decades and made somewhat easier by the global population being half what it is today by the end.

i wish we could do similar with covid, i really do. but while anti vaxxers are allowed to spout their shit and a large portion of the population remains unvaccinated, and borders to places with lower vaccination rates remain open so that each country gets new strains of sars-cov2 regularly. its not going to happen.



so you just don't believe it but you aren't sure who is lying or what exactly the lie is? so your not even sure what exactly you're arguing about?

@AutoTripper delusional parasitosis i.e. morgellons can cause massive issues when sufferers try to treat themselves with incredibly harmful cures please speak to a psychologist i don't want you to hurt yourself.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head when you simply say I don't believe.

And all the howler monkeys of media and government are just not delivering a believable story.

Arguable that my ability to believe people who have collectively lied almost Every time they have opened their mouths should be slow. In fact I'll be so slow I doubt I'll ever find footing in the very odd story that just keeps changing.

Thankfully some sanity is starting to take effect. I do wonder how many deaths due to starvation we will create when I see news stories of farmers plowing under unsellable crops.

Will we kill more people due to poor world management in fear of a virus or will the virus kill more? I wish in had faith in humanity to do the right thing but we aren't and we probably won't.
 
So I wonder honestly now, without the employment of nanotech within the human body, would the world still be waiting for an antidote?

 
"Most of the breakthrough cases -- about 74% -- occurred among adults 65 or older."

that's somewhat interesting, but more likely because that age group is probably more vaccinated? :unsure:
 
On the role of Nano in the Pfizer jab… “We provide a delivery technology that protects the messenger RNA after it’s administered, and carries it within the cells and then releases it in the cells so that it can work.”

So it’s the armies of robots basically being injected into the human body, allegedly experimentally, that is responsible for the mechanism and effects of the Pfizer jab.
 
50% of the population isn't "anti-vaxx"

i think the risks are being weighed and that's the outcome you're getting more so than "anti-vaxx misinformation"

but go ahead and keep up the blame game

blame the other side

that's the name of the game these days
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
www.cnn.com

UK scientists believe it is 'almost certain' a coronavirus variant will emerge that beats current vaccines | CNN

British academics believe it is "almost certain" that a SARS-Cov-2 variant will emerge that "leads to current vaccine failure." SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes Covid-19.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com



not looking good at all for the current menu of shots available
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Ummmm, that's kind of how viruses work. They change and mutate. They change and mutate faster as they rip through populations.

The unvaccinated are getting in the way at this point. It's not about partisan politics for me. It's about trusting science and the CDC. Not taking the vaccine doesn't even make sense to me.


Quoted from that article:

"The analysis has not been peer-reviewed, the early research is theoretical, and does not provide any proof that such a variant is in circulation now. Documents like it are released "as pre-print publications that have provided the government with rapid evidence during an emergency."
 
Noodle said:
Ummmm, that's kind of how viruses work. They change and mutate. They change and mutate faster as they rip through populations.

The unvaccinated are getting in the way at this point. It's not about partisan politics for me. It's about trusting science and the CDC. Not taking the vaccine doesn't even make sense to me.


Quoted from that article:

"The analysis has not been peer-reviewed, the early research is theoretical, and does not provide any proof that such a variant is in circulation now. Documents like it are released "as pre-print publications that have provided the government with rapid evidence during an emergency."
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Really

woooow
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
see that right there? you blame most of the problem on "anti-vaxxers" and then you wonder why we look at you like you're Dr. Frankenstein's assistant
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a) you must have stopped reading after the first comma to make that quote fit what you wanted it to.... b) this (misread/twist) is what antivaxxers have to do basically all the time. i give zero shits how antivaxxers feel about me tbh, i learned a long time ago you can't be liked by everyone, some people you actively don't want to be liked by, but overall caring is rarely worth it.

given i've never expressed wondering any such thing i suspect there is some projection going on.

i've attmpted over and over again to have sensible dialogues with yourself and other antivaxxers in this thread and you never respond to my objections. there is less evidence for your beliefs (because the data contradict them) than the 'alien intelligence spawned life on earth' (unfalsifiable so outside the purview of science til the aliens show up to say hello) theory.
 
To take that a bit further.

I think people should be free to self select. Just be aware that your chances of surviving any future variants will continue to diminish over the time that this pandemic continues.

I've made my choices and I'm okay with them. I'm not afraid of a vaccine.

I didn't like wearing a mask, but I did it.

*shrug*
 
AutoTripper said:
On the role of Nano in the Pfizer jab… “We provide a delivery technology that protects the messenger RNA after it’s administered, and carries it within the cells and then releases it in the cells so that it can work.”

So it’s the armies of robots basically being injected into the human body, allegedly experimentally, that is responsible for the mechanism and effects of the Pfizer jab.
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It's not nanobots like Star Trek borg type technology. They make it sound cleverer than it is. Though it is difficult to encapsulate the material effectively, and most of the trouble is getting that step just right. Many drugs are delivered in a similar way nowadays though, as delivery to the right place (achieving high bioavailability) is usually the big challenge.

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chinup said:
a) you must have stopped reading after the first comma to make that quote fit what you wanted it to.... b) this (misread/twist) is what antivaxxers have to do basically all the time. i give zero shits how antivaxxers feel about me tbh, i learned a long time ago you can't be liked by everyone, some people you actively don't want to be liked by, but overall caring is rarely worth it.

given i've never expressed wondering any such thing i suspect there is some projection going on.

i've attmpted over and over again to have sensible dialogues with yourself and other antivaxxers in this thread and you never respond to my objections. there is less evidence for your beliefs (because the data contradict them) than the 'alien intelligence spawned life on earth' (unfalsifiable so outside the purview of science til the aliens show up to say hello) theory.
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Oh so you read that post?

yea i like thinking that maybe we were created by an alien fucking a monkey.....and why not? you don't know any different anyway - you just think you do...in your lab coat over there :rolleyes:
 
CFC said:
It's not nanobots like Star Trek borg type technology. They make it sound cleverer than it is. Though it is difficult to encapsulate the material effectively, and most of the trouble is getting that step just right. Many drugs are delivered in a similar way nowadays though, as delivery to the right place (achieving high bioavailability) is usually the big challenge.

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Please desist.

It's clearly ancient alien insemination
 
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