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Lockdown doesn't mean you reduce contacts by 50% (how would that even work?) so the analogy doesn't really fit. You can do a lot to actively avoid getting infected. It isn't inevitable.
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Fifty percent was just an example to show how there isn't a linear relationship between the number of people you come in contact with and your likelihood of getting sick. This actually fits with my own experience. Believe it or not, I used to be a bit of a germaphobe. When I was a kid I absolutely hated being sick and I thought that if I avoided crowds, sick people and washed my hands a lot I could avoid getting sick. However it didn't work how I expected. Some years I'd be around tons of people, in school sitting next to people coughing and sneezing, riding the bus, working in a hospital, etc. Other years of my life I have been very isolated, exposed to orders of magnitude fewer people. However my rate of getting sick didn't change much. I'm not saying there is no correlation between being around sick people and getting sick, I would generally get sick a little more often when I was in school or at work with lots of people and people who were sick but occasionally I'd still get sick even when I was quite isolated. I'd say when isolated I'd get sick maybe once or twice a year and when exposed to orders of magnitude more people I'd get sick about one to four times a year. There isn't a 100 fold difference in how often I'd get sick if I was exposed to 100 fold more people. Nothing near that.

So when it comes to lockdowns, theoretically if you can bring your contacts down to zero or near zero (the equivalent of not rolling the dye or hardly ever rolling it in my example) then your chances of getting sick drop to near zero. However, if you have partial restrictions, like how we did here in the USA, then the restrictions become less and less effective. It's like a bucket with 2 holes in the bottom vs a bucket with four holes vs a sealed bucket. Yeah, you can argue that four holes is worse than 2 holes but at the end of the day, only the sealed bucket is going to effectively hold water. How we did lockdowns in the USA was not effective. There were so many holes. If you did them differently in your country and they worked, it's a different debate.
 
I hope this will be permitted, only in a topical qualification sense.

Because it’s very much about the govt lying the F to us all about undisclosed global covert procedures.

This is some really gripping footage, as good Ive seen to share.

The “necessary evil” it’s described by one of the interviewed participants.

Too many people amazingly deny this.

If you can debunk it, do. Just look though at least, and listen to the few experts testimonies. I mean, you just can’t deny this stuff. If they really are, which I know they have been for 21 years abs minimum, and not admitting it….what the fuck else are, have they been doing and not telling us.

The same trusty governments telling us to you know, roll up a sleeve.

Again you just can not deny this shit.

 
AutoTripper said:
Again you just can not deny this shit.
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sure you can.

i watched the whole thing and it's unimpressive to me, and certainly fair from gripping or convincing.

video shots of trails in the sky with a voiceover of somebody telling us to "wake up" proves nothing.

"...there could be something terrible tomorrow that we find tomorrow that we haven't looked at it." proves nothing. if something might be then, by definition, it also might not be. it's not proof.

the german air engineer who said he personally installed a spraying device on a plane and was pressured by his boss to not discuss it publicly is certainly interesting but it does not prove anything beyond that. you're adding 2 and 2 to get 5.

the analysis of barium, strontium, etc. in norcal is also interesting but there's no proof it's caused by chemtrails.

alasdair
 
So here's a great example of the batshit Australian rules.

I went to a remote national park today. It was further than 5km from my house and therefore illegal. There was no one there. It was 9 degrees Celsius (48F). It was raining. We walked 3km (not wearing masks) to a picnic area in the middle of nowhere only to find a sign that said "this picnic area is closed to prevent transmission of the virus".

We had lunch at the picnic area.

We broke the law *three times today.

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*four times (I'm stoned)

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I didn't mean I made a mistake because I'm ^stoned.

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^weed is illegal in Australia
 
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The people (in Australia, not you @Xorkoth) who deny the insanity of these (local) rules scare me way more than the anti-vaxxers and the conspiracy theorists.

Even if all three of them are brainwashed, the former is a much greater threat.

There is always and will always be a place for the non-believer; for those who question the status quo.

Fuck the system!

:)

EDIT: I'm anal

EDIT (2): I don't mean anal like the orifice. I mean meticulous.

EDIT (3): The orifice, too, if I'm being completely honest.
 
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In 1999 Anthony Fauci funded research at the university of North Carolina Chapel Hill, specifically to create, the NIAID built an “infectious replication defective Coronavirus , specifically targeted for human lung epithelium.”

It was officially patented on April 19th 2002, before there was allegedly an outbreak in Asia which followed by several months.

These are not conspiracy theories for Christ’s sake, and we are not conspiracy theorists. Nor flamingoes.

The govt made the virus. I’m not saying it isn’t a big deal. It is. My mum has heart fibrillation and dangerously high blood pressure, close to stroke.

There is no sign of the long Covid actually in the heart, though viruses easily find their way there.

It could be entirely unrelated, even possibly to long running heart parasites being killed by various treatments.

No one can say, but it’s likely related. I’m lucky it’s just in my liver and bladder now, it’s just hindering detox and digestion so I feel pretty shit as hell, but if I just hold course, with luck I should see the back of it myself with no irreparable damage.

My mum had accupuncture which is truly amazing for anything and everything. And hawthorn berry is proclaimed at lowering blood pressure.

In 7 days we see another alternative specialist chiropractor using Total Body Modification, as legit as a knife is a cutting tool, who will definitely be able t investigate the source of the heart fibrillation and apply instant effective corrective treatment.

And we have the ivermectin coming from India not sure when.

So I am not saying, Covid is nothing. Not at all.

But neither do I trust the govts intentions and measures and ultimate agendas.

I don’t need a video or testimony to prove to me chemtrails are absolutely real, long running and non-disclosed.

I’ve seen it enough times, I have eyes and a brain.

The ongoing naivety though. The mere label of conspiracy theorist. Those who said a year ago we’d be challenging vaccine passport implementations, and a thousand other things that have come about.

Who are now conspiracy theorists to be objecting to the vaccine passport scheme.

Things sure change quick. It’s purely ridiculous. We DO have a serious situation on our hands.

I still don’t know exactly what Covid is how it works, how purely biological it is, it has been put from other angles that it’s a “digitalised weapon”.

That’s a concept too far for most. My homeopath an expert at precise pinpoint vega testing, who completely cleared my own Borrelia and can without fail detect out of a dozen unlabelled cannabis samples, which 3 are from the suspected invisible fungus ridden plant, showing apsergillus niger in all three, with the other 9 samples testing clear, while the same aspergillosis infection which at the time (2014) I contracted instantly upon vaping from the infected Skunk plant we grew in damp, and simply couldn’t vape the weed and had major infection symptoms from trying, but not at all from all the others harvested earlier and not suspected, was identified in my throat, left lung, and bladder. The exact areas I felt the unignorable pain and scratchiness of infection.

That was just one example of how specific it is. No sham PCR swab cycled 45 times and tested officially by Mark Sexton and confirmed to be polluted with numerous highly toxic agents including lithium…


Sorry, my point, this lady very much regards Covid as a biological agent. She sees it causing issues not like any other pathogen she has known in 3 decades of practise and healing people.

So it’s a big problem. I’m not denying that. I downplayed it’s potential severity initially, because I know respiratory Covid can be treated and cleared so very easily if they wished to bloody do so.


I did it at home, no ventilator. With a device not 1% as optimised as they would be capable of rigging together if it was in Big P’s interest.

We’ll never meet in the middle here. This is Satan’s world, the grand deceiver, the burier of truth and conjurer of lies.

The Mainstream is his minion.
We need a solution. Lockdowns ain’t it, nor experimental drugs still on (non-actual safety determining cunningly) TRIALS until late 2022.

We need a radicalisation in how we diagnose first, and then and regardless, how we directly treat active infection.

Don’t suppress Ivermectin, Hydroxychloriquine, discourage vitamin D, jail innocent good people for building little devices based on science that I personally would have no hope of life without, before, during, (I won’t say beyond as I don’t see it!) Coronavirus.

I try to dream with you all, it’s just silly conspiracies. It’s an “unfortunate” event, we’re/they’re just trying their best.

It’s just condensation trails, like as the aerial pilot expert testified, is like a 2 mile visible trail of your own breath on a cold day.

No need for breadcrumbs though the woods.

It’s reality. It doesn’t matter does it, who here thinks, believes what. Is it really going to affect the outcome of anything?

My mum and I ftr also, just to ward off a portion of the potential comeback, had the Long Covid about 5 or 6 months ago at least, if we did get the virus twice.

It is conceivable that the initial respiratory Covid in September found a way by trace into the nervous system despite being quickly vanquished from the lungs.

It’s either that, Long Covid following acute respiratory Covid, or a second infection about 5 or 6 months ago, way before we were even offered the elixir of health.

I possibly have more direct personal experience and observation of Covid in multiple bodily locations and stages, with an ability to compare it to my vast and very precisely documented and assimilated experience with al other types of pathogens, which again nobody here can claim surely.

I’m just making this point, but I’m not making a point in reference to it. Sure somebody will quote me on that. I won’t bother to much lol.

If my mum drops I’ll have 4 weeks to empty the house and move out. It would be a feat for me to survive without my mum until I’m stronger, I need that regular assistance with shopping, cooking, appointments, just being able to afford the vital treatment and supplement protocol.

I’m not living on edge of that though, what will be will be. It’s not like life is forever. Tomorrow can be anybody’s day Covid or no Covid.

I have the littlest will and desire to live in this ridiculous reality of so much bullshit, lies, anguish, anger, discontent, pain and suffering.

I try with all might to feel okay, get better, but with my current mental state I can only tread water.

If it wasn’t for the cold, I’m not actually too averse to being a tramp you know. Except I do like a shower each day.
 
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Yeah and I'm still their little bitch,
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I might as well join in..

Borders have just closed again in my state, which really just adds two hours to my travel home from work over the border each night.

I can't wear those masks - so I can either avoid going to the shops, go without one (like a lot of people do) and get maybe a few looks, or wear a mask and have to pull it up anyway every 10 seconds to breathe properly.

I don't use apps on my phone, but will write my number down at restaurants if that's an option. I check exposure sites online, though I don't really know if having been somewhere that a covid-positive person has been (past tense), is actually spreading the virus.

I could (hopefully) deal with getting covid (may well have had it early on, Feb/March 2020) but would feel horrible if I passed it on.

Regardless of what people believe about the government response, covid-19 is still an extremely unpleasant and fast spreading virus, difficult to detect in it's early stages, and we can't let it go unchecked. We've seen what happens.

At the same time, nobody really knows what to do. The people making decisions don't know shit, they just feel they have to be seen doing something, which results in a whole lot of senseless, often contradictory rules which most people try to follow, when they can, but they are all only temporary patches, not long term solutions.. the collective patience is wearing pretty thin.

The lockdowns, state closures, greatly limiting overseas travel etc -it was all supposed to ease with the masks, the vaccines, the weird fucking trace apps - it's changed nothing.

At the end of the day, Australia is taking a different approach than many other countries, an approach afforded to us, by our geographical proximity to absolutely nothing. I have my own ideas about why we are not 100% free of this and honestly, my patience too is wearing thin with the hypocrisy.

Knowing of the reality in a place like India makes me cringe when I'm labelled a 'sheep' living in a 'draconian' country. Today I went to the beach, smoked some weed, then went for pizza. That's not really what comes to mind when I think of fascist rule, but maybe it's all the brainwashing from the TV I don't watch, the shithead politicians I don't listen to and the BIG PHARMA drugs that I don.. well that's irrelevant anyway.

tl;dr. There's no easy solution to any of this.
 
I have to say I think its totally naive to assume that a single active member of society has NOT passed Covid “on”.

Its inevitably due to find its way into virtually every sinus cavity, symptomatic or A, known or not, regardless of the useless map projected by over cycled sham PCR’s.

Its survival of the fittest, most fortunate, most determined and ultimately the wiser dice rollers in the long run.

But no matter what, luck/fortune is the dominance practically.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
No offense to you @AutoTripper at all, but I remember Adolf Hitler saying the same kinda thing.

Just saying man

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I take zero offence. But he was a very evil man hellbent upon mass murder.

I, am simply not.

Did David Attenborough perhaps likely utter the same folklore statement possibly?

And millions of others.

So we don’t disagree, and both make valid points I feel.

It’s just unfortunately true, except it’s more like survival of the fortunate, if we want to call it that. I should consider myself as fortunate to have survived this far. But I hardly feel it.

Im definitely not the fittest, but I was naturally extremely fit, agile and strong, constitutionally until 2005, so there is arguably still a type of inherent fitness still in me.

Just gonna vape high on weed all steam etc done for today.
 
AutoTripper said:
I don’t need a video or testimony to prove to me chemtrails are absolutely real, long running and non-disclosed.

I’ve seen it enough times, I have eyes and a brain.
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you seem to be implying that, to anybody with eyes and a brain, the only reasonable conclusion is that the trails behind planes contain nefarious, controlling chemicals orchestrated on a huge scale by the government?

i have eyes. and a brain. and my brain tells me that, from the ground, i can tell absolutely nothing about what's in a trail in the sky just by seeing it.

alasdair
 
AutoTripper = Adolf :)

Chemtrails = frozen water vapor :)

why does Hitler always need to come up in a current events debate? somebody's almost always compared to the 3rd Reich in some form or another....and the holocaust...gotta bring that into it too

:)
 
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Says the person with an avatar of Hitler playing the banjo 😂
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Lol, true, I might have squeezed that same observation into a relevant place, except I see Mr as a good man like yourself and I’ve no reason to jab or reproach, or even question, I know you’re not doing any of that.

@alasdairm I did again, in real time, anticipate you may read those words and respond exactly this.

I genuinely expected it, the sentiment at least. Just an admission, nothing behind it.

Because it wasn’t directed at yourself personally, and I could see it may be taken as such. I wasn’t saying dismissing chemtrails means no intellect. Clearly not.

I was speaking generally and personally from my own view. But that’s why it staggers me beyond belief.

It’s incredulous to me. And Im not implying, its a fact. (You can quote me that too lol, evidence? 😉), a very nefarious covert scheme, they spray us like flies, been going on god knows exactly how many decades, 2.1 at the minimum, but hundreds, or thousands of weather modification patents exist from back far as WW1.

Fauci did fund that research, they patented this bloody virus 19.237 years ago, the one rhat, you know, accidentally forgot it likes bats one day. “Oh well. This’ll do I guess. Just need a slightly new outfit.”

There’s plenty of conjecture, theory, but the reality and existence of chemtrails, to me it just seems madness to deny it. Like, those massively trailed, freaky zig zag skis look natural?

Followed by a grey out, and an oil spill halo around the sun every time.

And Ive seen H.A.A.R.P. for real.

“I think there is….(hesitantly) part…truth! (Aka, blatant yet cowardly, but equally brave too, admittance by an official air pilot flying these things) and “yeah, It’s…a necessary evil?”

Did a studio mock up the fake little chemtrail operating board with cameras?

That would be the only explanation outside of it actually being a genuine inside of an aircraft and evidence of operation.

It’s just too much for some people to wake up. I get it. That’s not pointed at a person either btw, but purely general.

It’s a planet wide problem, which simply enables them to do the insidious shit they do to us commodities with individual credit scores.

But none of it could be real, it’s not been shown on the news right?

The lady testifying and campaigning, forced out of career, threatened by section and child kidknap, that’s how they do things.

It’s an evil world run by evil people. That’s a fact too.

The monstrously high aluminium levels, just came from somewhere but nah, no way are those planes doing it.

And the image of the flying, zero condensation trail jet, suddenly pluming pluming trails from one of the outlets installed by the German engineer’s ex or co-workers, whose life is being well spent just spreading lies and rumours.

Not much point debating it. It’s just too evident to require it, and if it’s denied, well the “proof” has been thrown out before and then along with the surely hundreds of thousands, I expect millions who cannot fail to see it, the silenced, threatened, assassinated, fired etc real experts and climate scientist’s passionate testimonies and decades of campaigning.

Anyway, I skipped food yesterday, I fast often, like 36-45 hours, as digestion has been a chaotic mess from breaking strict diet protocol too much and simply mega stress and exhaustion.

So I was half asleep, always drooling a pile of mucus onto my pillow as it pours out my airways as I sleep.

My mum awoke me 12.15 am, not feeling good says she’s going to the hospital A&E for her mega high blood pressure. I hauled up, quick treated allergies, took some benzo as I use fasting days to take half amounts, and walked to the Hospital with her, which is about 100 metres from our house.

They wouldn't let me in unfortunately past reception.

So just wanna sleep forever. May need to jump up early for the Dog’s sake if they keep her in.

It’s the only real practical concern, if my mum died, I’ve no worries then. I’ll take what path I can, if I can’t manage, I'm free to simply starve myself which is kind of my heart’s desire when life isn’t worth it.

I work to get stronger, to look after my mum as she ages.

Im totally ready to die otherwise, if push comes to shove.

Except, I do love our dog, I don’t see how I could look after her myself such is the fatigue level and treatment demands. Maybe I could try.

Here she is. You can see she has trouble finding a comfortable sleeping position. Beautiful dog, 7 year old ex racer, one year ours.




Now, nobody please feel like you need to be sensitive, hold tongue, because my mum hangs in balance potentially, but maybe not we’ll see.

Speak from the heart always is my moto.

Just had a big edible cannabis dose at 1.55 am. Not sure what to do with myself now. Big dose of LSD? Im thinking about it. I ruled it out firmly yesterday, too too tired, but I just might.

Maybe a quick hot shower I skipped yesterday actually, see if I can make a better plan. I don’t really feel like tripping. It was already totally the wrong time.
 
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