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Police Brutality Thread

I no longer have any emotional investment or interest in this thread, need to wash my hands because now I'm thinking about it all day and it's wasting brain cells.

For the record, it seems I completely annihilated the lot of you in this "debate" or whatever it was. Obliterated so badly you apparently were speechless and don't know or care how to explain your viewpoint. Either that or the very generic Fox news-esque argument you grasp onto is completely invalid in a place like BL where you are surrounded by people just like Floyd, so maybe you didn't have a backup argument stowed away. Not ONE of you answered a single question I asked. That's not even a debate. That's a complete shutdown. Shut out. Perfect pitched game.

Snafu - 1
Floyd Haters - 0

toodaloo :)
What was the question? I'll answer it. :ROFLMAO:
 
What was the question? I'll answer it. :ROFLMAO:
basically giving me their reason to think he deserved to die, or, for that matter, why they believe I or anyone should also deserve to die in such a situation

also why they would claim he deserves death for drugs and crime, which literally most of us here have done copious amounts of, so that's a bit of a logical conundrum

Basically I ask them to say anything other than repeating the generic "floyd was a bad man and I think the world is better without him", literally anything else (which is the Fox News mantra relating to floyd)

and they cannot... they cannot
 
basically giving me their reason to think he deserved to die, or, for that matter, why they believe I or anyone should also deserve to die in such a situation

also why they would claim he deserves death for drugs and crime, which literally most of us here have done copious amounts of, so that's a bit of a logical conundrum

Basically I ask them to say anything other than repeating the generic "floyd was a bad man and I think the world is better without him", literally anything else (which is the Fox News mantra relating to floyd)

and they cannot... they cannot
I cannot answer as well, as that is not how I think. Floyd did indeed NOT deserve to die. No way, no how. Both men were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I believe Floyd over reacted to his impending arrest as he was probably scared shitless that his small stash would be found and he would get more than just a few days in jail for it as he had priors. Chauvin over reacted because he was pissed off that Floyd was resisting so much and lost control of his emotions big time.

One man dead and one man in Federal prison for more than 20 years because two men over reacted. Damn shame is what it is.
 
The only reason that this is even an issue today is because Rodney King didn't die. Had he died from that horrific beating that he received because 4 cops were out of control all of this would have been rehashed then. The fact that the 4 were acquitted and the rioters burned down L.A. is long forgotten.

That near death was filmed too. Had he died we would have been doing this then and not now because Floyd would not have happened. No white officer would have dared do what Chauvin did.

We didn't learn with Emmett Till and we aren't learning now.
 
I cannot answer as well, as that is not how I think. Floyd did indeed NOT deserve to die. No way, no how. Both men were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I believe Floyd over reacted to his impending arrest as he was probably scared shitless that his small stash would be found and he would get more than just a few days in jail for it as he had priors. Chauvin over reacted because he was pissed off that Floyd was resisting so much and lost control of his emotions big time.

One man dead and one man in Federal prison for more than 20 years because two men over reacted. Damn shame is what it is.
best answer I've ever heard tbh

My problem is not necessarily them discounting or completely discrediting Floyd, it's how they completely ignore the fact that Chauvin murdered the man, his own culpability and then praise him for "doing the right thing" by killing a scumbag. That's what pushes my buttons.

I think it's incredibly toxic and hateful to say those types of things about a man you've literally never met. Thinking you know the man based on what you read on Fox News is incredibly short sighted, low IQ and brainwashed sheeple crap. Personally I was taught many years ago never to believe everything you see on TV. Some of these people are so brainwashed and propagandized robots and they don't even realize it.

A lot of this boils down to police brutality more than racism. Since they apparently enjoy completely ignoring the police brutality/murder it seems to immediately switch over to racial stuff.

It's no secret that black men are targeted more by police in my country. Denying systemic racism is a problem means YOU are part of that problem. In my opinion....
 
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It's no secret that black men are targeted more by police in my country. Denying systemic racism is a problem means YOU are part of that problem. In my opinion....
I was taken under the wing of a Jewish neophyte who taught me just about everything there was to know about this [particular] sensitive issue. At least to the point that I had understood it.

The arbitrary separation of right and left has become more painstakingly apparent since issues surrounding the BLM movement and has since then razed a certain bar that has made more issues widespread. Controversial issues like this are often exulted with a maxim. Whites conquer blacks, the status quo adjust ever slightly- then blacks become free and fight for their right to be equal. As thus, their superiority has been challenged again and again and again using the same denominators. Whites are justifying the means to seek leadership above opposition.

Paramount to the exchange, however, right and left couldn't be anything less than disruptive in this ambiguous game. At least England was able to call off the attention and insidious need for further debacle using England's aristocracy as a fulcrum, when they not only outlawed the use of slaves following the Civil War but also built certain "bridges" in order to represent that. The moral issues however more moreover outraged. People began to become disheartened by histories motives and such and such. It is a continuum.

Fewer and fewer people are less likely to become willing to embrace the idea, though. If I am white, how the fuck do I just assume that I'm not racist?
 
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If I am white, how the fuck do I just assume that I'm not racist?

Most racist people aren't racist.

I used to be "racist" in the sense that I was raised in a certain toxic environment and I absorbed some of that behaviour, so (occasionally) I have said things that are racist in an anxious attempt to fit in. I don't do that anymore and I haven't for a long time, but - even when I did - I never actually felt it in my heart in the first place. People are just people. All you have to do is hang out in a multicultural environment for a short period of time to realize this. Racism, most of the time, is just ignorance. When it isn't ignorance, that's inexcusable.

If you spend enough time with a cow, you will start to have issues with eating beef and drinking milk. This is, admittedly, an assumption on my part. I've never let myself get that close because I like steak and milkshakes.

White people don't have any ownership over racism, casual or otherwise.
 

This isn't Floyd related but I couldn't find another thread on police brutality.

This story breaks my heart. A mentally ill man goes to police station, BEGS to be taken to the mental health ward.

One cop accidentally yells "he's got a gun!" (He didn't) and then WHILE he has 2 cops restraining him one cop pulls out his gun, physically puts the gun on his head, says "you're about to die" and half a second later shoots him point blank in the head.

It's so fucking tragic man.... This man needed HELP.

YOU DONT WANT TO WATCH THE VIDEO IT MADE ME WANT TO CRY, very disturbing

COPS ARE WAY TOO TRIGGER HAPPY
 

This isn't Floyd related but I couldn't find another thread on police brutality.

This story breaks my heart. A mentally ill man goes to police station, BEGS to be taken to the mental health ward.

One cop accidentally yells "he's got a gun!" (He didn't) and then WHILE he has 2 cops restraining him one cop pulls out his gun, physically puts the gun on his head, says "you're about to die" and half a second later shoots him point blank in the head.

It's so fucking tragic man.... This man needed HELP.

YOU DONT WANT TO WATCH THE VIDEO IT MADE ME WANT TO CRY, very disturbing

COPS ARE WAY TOO TRIGGER HAPPY
No offence meant Sir. But you’re cherry picking big time in your summation of the article and ignoring the actual events leading up to said ever so unfortunate outcome.
 
No offence meant Sir. But you’re cherry picking big time in your summation of the article and ignoring the actual events leading up to said ever so unfortunate outcome.
What? I literally just watched the video and was commenting on that.

I had no point or agenda

"Cherry picking"???

I described the video quite accurately. I am making no statement other than how I felt after watching
 
@dalpat077 I don't immediately freak out any time someone is killed by police. Most of the time it's the perp's fault. A LOT of police vs black men killings are their own fault. Listen to damn commands!

But when I see shit like that video sometimes I feel like something is wrong... With police (training, accountability) , with mental health care, the system, insurance, the american system...

We can do better.
 
What? I literally just watched the video and was commenting on that.

I had no point or agenda

"Cherry picking"???

I described the video quite accurately.
Well I’ve not watched the video and assumed you were basing your post and commentary on the article. On that score: my bad.

I can only assume the video accurately depicts the events as detailed in the written article.

But no big deal. Wasn’t accusing you of anything. My stance on these incidents is unwavering for better or for worse. So better I leave ya’ll in peace here again I’d say is the wisest course of action (if for no other reason than my own sanity)! :ROFLMAO:

Carry on as you were (well: not that you need my permission of course! :) ).

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Just so that we’re clear we were over posting each other. I appreciate your last post (which I only saw after posting this one of course).
 
@dalpat077 yeah man the video speaks for itself. I saw it uncensored.

It's a very tragic situation and a grave mistake. Horrible. HOWEVER it's the way the officer killed him, execution style and his chilling words "you're about to die". It makes you feel like that officer walks around just looking for excuses to kill people, but I'm just speculating here and getting emotional.

There are so many ways to look at it. :(
 
I do not know how you folks put up with it. All of these folks who won't get a shot, but one of LA's main LE agencies (either the LAPD or County Sherrif's Dep.) decided to perform an armed raid on the family of a new born over the w/e as the mother refused to allow anyone but their family doctor to take a blood sample from the new born.

This was the quickest report I could find off hand but I have seen it discussed by multiple outlets...

LA Couple Says Birth of Baby Girl Turned Hostile After Arriving at Hospital
 
He did none of those things during the incident of his murder. That's the issue.

Had the same set of events played out and he had zero criminal history or activity prior...he'd still be dead. That's not acceptable police protocol.

I'm sure that plenty of you have been arrested drunk and out of control and acted far worse than Floyd did during his arrest. Should you be dead by the cops?

I'm sure plenty of you have done crime amd drugs....then later on had an arrest where you didn't attack the cops or try to run...should you be dead from it?


Cant say I've robbed anyone or been arrested, the guy had a criminal history and did use counterfeit notes, store policy meant call the pigs, who knows why the pig was that much of a macho man he didn't use his brain to handle the matter.

Do men generally like to lose face in front of an audience that's clearly against them, especially when in authority?

I doubt that it would have made him less of a man to sit him down, give some water and wait a few minutes until he co operated or they called back up to shove him into a paddy wagon, some compassion and ability to be rational saves lives.

I doubt there was much empathy for the pregnant female he robbed (dunno if gun inbolved), he was resisting arrest this time, quite frankly as shit as it sounds floyd waa a loser and what do you know ...bad things happen to bad people, people don't always get what they deserve either way but I think overall pigs do what they can in circumstances most of us wouldn't want to deal with.

People who go out and have to deal with people who are causing shit because of drugs, committing crimes, would have heard it all, what drugs and hardened addiction does to entire neighbourhoods . Some will probably just keep on robbing stealing and harming others and leave others with broken lives and loss of honestly earned income. It was a petty charge but counterfeit money is a big deal, tbh.

Just because someone uses drugs that does not mean they have any excuse or right to rip off corner stores, or any other thing pigs get called to. Thats on the drug user, their choices, if they did not cause strife for others because of their choices then they wouldn't have gotten such a low opinion from police (or society in general).

Cops have not got the respect of people because of pigs like Chauvin and endless crooked cop scenarios either.

Anyway, the pay out has basically been the response, seems to have fixed the entire issue, right? :|
 
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I do not know how you folks put up with it. All of these folks who won't get a shot, but one of LA's main LE agencies (either the LAPD or County Sherrif's Dep.) decided to perform an armed raid on the family of a new born over the w/e as the mother refused to allow anyone but their family doctor to take a blood sample from the new born.

This was the quickest report I could find off hand but I have seen it discussed by multiple outlets...

LA Couple Says Birth of Baby Girl Turned Hostile After Arriving at Hospital


The pommy police seem really polite and charming, only seen them on TV and they don't seem that fussed about being heavily armed and can talk themselves into or out of situations with sharp wit, instead of just using a gun. Their hats don't fit well and are not practical.

Guns are lazy and idiotic, dont have any sympathy for America since they're SOOOO much safer with their weapons.:|

The UK has a very multicultural population, many immigrants, many Africans, doesnt seem that a young country like America realises that they aren't unique having black populations and white populations, slavery pasts, I mean srsly America, you'd be boring as batshit without the African Americans and Latino, wish you would just get over it, cant rush these things or pretend it didn't happen though. It just will become less influential in a few generations , mere paragraphs in high school social science if its not banned entirely by then.
 
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