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Police Brutality Thread

Snafu of the Forest said:
if anyone is in trouble it's me

I wish you the best, life is too short for this type of shit mate

Hatred is toxic and wishing anyone should die without truly knowing them is a very sad thought to harbor.
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Ye I wouldn’t say it’s as strong as hatred. I Just don’t get emotional over dead scumbags.
Not hate, just couldn’t give a fuck about him
 
Burnt Offerings said:
They would’ve said something? Something along the lines of stop, don’t do that? Maybe even the victim in question would’ve said something along those lines, all of which were ignored by a disinterested Chauvin?

I probably did say something like that earlier in the thread. But, what is original in a thread with over 1K replies, on a topic like this? People keep saying the same stuff, mostly regarding Floyd being a “bad hombre” and that somehow excuses or at least mitigates what happened, so I’ll keep stating my position, which is that George Floyd was murdered and, if anything, Chauvin’s professional capacity as a law enforcement officer heightens, rather than diminishes, his culpability.
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The 1k limit was there for a reason, maybe CEP can consider reintroducing it , long threads never stay OT.
 
Jennn said:
Being a shit stain who held a gun to a pregnant lady would be my reason why. Now a statue? So only founding fathers who committed what wasn't even crimes back then get their statue toppled and this criminal gets one? I bet his victims love that.

Chauvin did wrong but the way the media went after him while martyring a career criminal is what's wrong with society
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They were slave owners... wtf

Who cares if it was a crime. Its a fucking crime against humanity.. And it's so much worse than robbing someone.
 
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LordOfThisWorld said:
Chauvin did exactly what was in his right as a police officer to do, he used legal maneuvers to restrain a criminal. The Fentanyl and other drugs in his system killed, that was explained, did you not watch the trial and evidence being brought out to the jury, the drugs stopped his heart and if I remember correctly the evidence they showed. Officers Chauvin’s knee wasn’t even directly on Floyd’s neck but his shoulder. Floyd. Killed himself.
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Floyd's toxicology report stated he had ~11ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, which is the same figure used by people saying he overdosed. But a simple google search will show that the anesthesia dosage of fentanyl is 10-20ng/mL, with a fatal overdose range starting at 20ng/mL (almost double what Floyd had). So his level was just over the minimum range for anesthesia, for a non-tolerant individual. As we all know, opioid tolerance (as happens in addicted individuals) allows for FAR higher concentrations to be present without health complications, since opioid tolerance rises massively with chronic usage. Even if Floyd randomly took fentanyl and had no addiction tolerance, his level would have been very unlikely to kill him. You can go into Other Drugs right now and encounter lots of people with FAR higher blood concentrations than Floyd, who are just experiencing an average day's maintenance dose and posting and in no danger whatsoever.

The evidence in the trial clearly pointed to the drugs NOT killing him although it was probably a factor, since opioids reduce breathing capacity. But without his breathing being restricted by a knee to the back/neck for far too long, he'd have been fine. If he hadn't taken any fentanyl, would it have killed him? I don't know, but that's not the point, the point is Chauvin's actions were both the direct cause of his death, and unnecessary.

That's the consensus the experts came to, and the evidence (which I have not seen disputed, by that I mean the 11ng/mL blood concentration) points to the same thing. Just because certain people and Youtube videos and news channels tell you that 11ng/mL is enough to kill you, doesn't mean it's true. Just a few minutes of your own research will tell you that.
 
Yep. We can all think what we want. act like we want, say what we want. But when it comes down to brass tacks, a Court of Law has the final say. Whether we agree with the decision of 12 people or not is not our call. We can't change how 12 people feel anymore than we can change how we feel.
 
Xorkoth said:
Floyd's toxicology report stated he had ~11ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, which is the same figure used by people saying he overdosed. But a simple google search will show that the anesthesia dosage of fentanyl is 10-20ng/mL, with a fatal overdose range starting at 20ng/mL (almost double what Floyd had). So his level was just over the minimum range for anesthesia, for a non-tolerant individual. As we all know, opioid tolerance (as happens in addicted individuals) allows for FAR higher concentrations to be present without health complications, since opioid tolerance rises massively with chronic usage. Even if Floyd randomly took fentanyl and had no addiction tolerance, his level would have been very unlikely to kill him. You can go into Other Drugs right now and encounter lots of people with FAR higher blood concentrations than Floyd, who are just experiencing an average day's maintenance dose and posting and in no danger whatsoever.

The evidence in the trial clearly pointed to the drugs NOT killing him although it was probably a factor, since opioids reduce breathing capacity. But without his breathing being restricted by a knee to the back/neck for far too long, he'd have been fine. If he hadn't taken any fentanyl, would it have killed him? I don't know, but that's not the point, the point is Chauvin's actions were both the direct cause of his death, and unnecessary.

That's the consensus the experts came to, and the evidence (which I have not seen disputed, by that I mean the 11ng/mL blood concentration) points to the same thing. Just because certain people and Youtube videos and news channels tell you that 11ng/mL is enough to kill you, doesn't mean it's true. Just a few minutes of your own research will tell you that.
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Just gonna take a shot in the dark here and say the guy Is actually aware of this and intentionally spreading misinformation
 
schizoinfective said:
They were slave owners... wtf

Who cares if it was a crime. Its a fucking crime against humanity.. And it's so much worse than robbing someone.
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Do you also blame the black slave sellers? Do you blame the natives that killed other tribes? or you just have a problem with the white population?
 
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Jennn said:
Do you also blame the black slave sellers? Do you blame the natives that killed other tribes? or you just have a problem with the white population?
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Did I say I didn't? Where did I even remotely imply that? Stop fucking victimizing yourself and try to see beyond the scope of your ridiculous fox-informed reductionist world view. There is no one attacking you, or anyone, for being white. You are simply used to "whites" being impervious to their crimes, and shocked and horrified that it is being addressed. It's sad, very sad, and clear as day to anyone but reactionary apologists that think like yourself.

I can't even begin to understand how you see the world... how is it possible that someone's crimes can't be discussed without bringing up another's, as if it is some sort of excuse. Smh
Jennn said:
At the time owning slaves was normal
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And even then, way back when, there were the benevolent people who knew better and fought against it, and strived for change.

Xorkoth said:
Possibly, but a lot of people just repeat that talking point, after all it was hammered into people by Fox and other right wing news outlets.
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Did not realize that, I only thought it was a few delusional people on this forum pushing that false narrative.
 
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Xorkoth said:
Floyd's toxicology report stated he had ~11ng/mL of fentanyl in his blood, which is the same figure used by people saying he overdosed. But a simple google search will show that the anesthesia dosage of fentanyl is 10-20ng/mL, with a fatal overdose range starting at 20ng/mL (almost double what Floyd had). So his level was just over the minimum range for anesthesia, for a non-tolerant individual. As we all know, opioid tolerance (as happens in addicted individuals) allows for FAR higher concentrations to be present without health complications, since opioid tolerance rises massively with chronic usage. Even if Floyd randomly took fentanyl and had no addiction tolerance, his level would have been very unlikely to kill him. You can go into Other Drugs right now and encounter lots of people with FAR higher blood concentrations than Floyd, who are just experiencing an average day's maintenance dose and posting and in no danger whatsoever.

The evidence in the trial clearly pointed to the drugs NOT killing him although it was probably a factor, since opioids reduce breathing capacity. But without his breathing being restricted by a knee to the back/neck for far too long, he'd have been fine. If he hadn't taken any fentanyl, would it have killed him? I don't know, but that's not the point, the point is Chauvin's actions were both the direct cause of his death, and unnecessary.

That's the consensus the experts came to, and the evidence (which I have not seen disputed, by that I mean the 11ng/mL blood concentration) points to the same thing. Just because certain people and Youtube videos and news channels tell you that 11ng/mL is enough to kill you, doesn't mean it's true. Just a few minutes of your own research will tell you that.
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You keep claiming this but ignore the fact that there are millions of opiate/polydrug addicts and regular users with a moderate or large tolerance that have died from fentanyl, from heroin or other opiates in low doses, and especially from combining multiple hard drugs together.

Some of them posted here on bluelight in other drugs or were regular users/daily users feeding polydrug addictions.

Do you even know anyone that has died from a drug overdose, any opiate/polydrug addicts, have you ever taken opiates or other hard drugs, etc.? Hard drugs including opiates are deadly on their own, and combining them is not as harmless as combining LSD and pot, pot and mushrooms, or pot and nitrous-oxide.

George had been using METH and died from a fentanyl overdose, the METH, and poor health from obesity, being poz and not on meds, and having COVID-19 all contributed to his death.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
You keep claiming this but ignore the fact that there are millions of opiate/polydrug addicts and regular users with a moderate or large tolerance that have died from fentanyl, from heroin or other opiates in low doses, and especially from combining multiple hard drugs together.

Some of them posted here on bluelight in other drugs or were regular users/daily users feeding polydrug addictions.

Do you even know anyone that has died from a drug overdose, any opiate/polydrug addicts, have you ever taken opiates or other hard drugs, etc.? Hard drugs including opiates are deadly on their own, and combining them is not as harmless as combining LSD and pot, pot and mushrooms, or pot and nitrous-oxide.

George had been using METH and died from a fentanyl overdose
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Meth, with its long half life, would nearly always prevent a fentanyl overdose, however as xorkoth pointed out the levels were measured and were not even OD level for a nontolerant user. Please stop pushing false narrative that have been disproven.

And please stop capitalizing meth as if meth users are any more subhuman
Stop spamming

That post is literally identical to one you made 10 pages back, quit being impudent.
 
schizoinfective said:
Meth, with its long half life, would nearly always prevent a fentanyl overdose, however as xorkoth pointed out the levels were measured and were not even OD level for a nontolerant user. Please stop pushing false narrative that have been disproven.

And please stop capitalizing meth as if meth users are any more subhuman.
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That is not the reason why I capitalize METH, and I do not think that about METH users, addicts, tweakers, etc.

It is entirely possible to die from a Fentanyl or opiate overdose even if the person has used METH.

Fentanyl is super easy to overdose and die from even at low levels and addicts and regular users with a tolerance to opiates overdose on low doses of Fentanyl all the time, and random amounts of Fentanyl used by addicts or polydrug users/addicts on their own is not the same as a controlled and known amount used in a hospital for anesthesia by surgeons, doctors, or anesthesiologists.

The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

Above text from here:

Fentanyl drug profile | www.emcdda.europa.eu

Fentanyl drug profile Chemistry Physical form Pharmacology Non-pharmaceutical fentanyls Synthesis Mode of use Other names Analysis
www.emcdda.europa.eu www.emcdda.europa.eu
 
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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
That is not the reason why I capitalize METH, and I do not think that about METH users, addicts, tweakers, etc.

It is entirely possible to die from a Fentanyl or opiate overdose even if the person has used METH.

Fentanyl is super easy to overdose and die from even at low levels and addicts and regular users with a tolerance to opiates overdose on low doses of Fentanyl all the time.
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Doesn't mean you have to spam the thread. We know your opinion. You don't have to regurgitate it, literally copy and pasting your old post.
 
schizoinfective said:
Doesn't mean you have to spam the thread. We know your opinion. You don't have to regurgitate it, literally copy and pasting your old post.
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It is not spamming anything. I am simply dispelling myths and dangerous misconceptions.

Fentanyl drug profile | www.emcdda.europa.eu

Fentanyl drug profile Chemistry Physical form Pharmacology Non-pharmaceutical fentanyls Synthesis Mode of use Other names Analysis
www.emcdda.europa.eu www.emcdda.europa.eu
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
It is not spamming anything. I am simply dispelling myths and dangerous misconceptions.

Fentanyl drug profile | www.emcdda.europa.eu

Fentanyl drug profile Chemistry Physical form Pharmacology Non-pharmaceutical fentanyls Synthesis Mode of use Other names Analysis
www.emcdda.europa.eu www.emcdda.europa.eu
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Posting the same message from weeks ago, and 3 messages in a row to take up the whole last page is spamming.

Please refer to Xorkoths last post.
 
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