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Social Justice Black Lives Matter Discussion Thread

Well I'd say advocating for killing cops and riots does make this one person an extremist. But I fail to see how it means anything about anyone else.
 
Foreigner would be an extremist then in a way, not sure on if he advocates killing cops but replacing them with militias is probably not a well thought out plan, considering these militias would then be the ones who answer 911 calls of breaking and entering or rape and then would be likely to kill their peers.

Extremism is more than some tool mouthing off in a thoughtless post. Its a bad idea to post in a recognisable to work or school account posts that are not in line with the mindthink of that buisness or whatever, personal accounts from a person that is their own view is different.

Employers do search the Web, if there's anything that makes them want to distance themselves from the tool they can and will.
 
Iirc it wasn't long ago that suggesting BLM have any hint of extremism would be taken as a racist comment so its things like that you need to be wary of.


Dont worry about it, theres enough people looking for weirdos online to talk a bout and enough bloggy-jounos to write their opinions, they'll read their ugly head and fade into the background like they always do .

birdup.snaildown said:
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I agree and I disagree. People are concerned about white supremacists for the same reason I am concerned about people like this.

I don't know how many of them there are. There is no white supremacist movement blowing up at the moment, anywhere near the magnitude of BLM.

I realize that BLM has many level-headed supporters, but (like I said) we don't know how many are extremists.
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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
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Black Lives Matter Leader Calls White People "Subhuman" With "Genetic Defects"

The Toronto-based Black Lives Matter movement co-founder Yusra Khogali, who is no stranger to controversy, posted on her Facebook page that white people
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It is not surprising at all that the racist hate group black lives matter is pro-eugenics, and science denialists. These are the same poorly educated black people who believe that 'the government created HIV/AIDS!!1' or that they can get fucked RAW as much as they want by anyone or share IVs and stay negative, and that the toxic Truvada is a magic pill that will keep them neg from HIV and everything else and that condoms are not needed at all.

Iit should not surprise anyone that this idiot 'woman of colour' is an Islamist and went from one racist black supremacist hate group-the nation of Islam or black Islam that is black supremacist to another-black lives matter.

Recessive genes? Yeah lots of black people have sickle cell anemia.
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Dont let some idiot saying offensive things about your race react in anger, dude. You've been basically labelled as some noxious racist homophobic hate speech type thing as it is.

I mean, it's funny to be honest, these ludicrous racist idiotic comments, what's with the "huxam" bullshit, need a new keyboard or something.

Mate, its okay to be angry , I guess, but you're just going to give them what they want.

Nice thread, you generated a lot of posts and views. Cant say the same for some others..
 
Xorkoth said:
(1) Well I'd say advocating for killing cops and riots does make this one person an extremist. (2) But I fail to see how it means anything about anyone else.
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(1) Agreed. 100%

(2A) The number of white people who openly incite violence against Black people is an indication of how many other white supremacists might be out there who haven't spoken up yet. Furthermore: (2B) how socially acceptable it is to make these sort of comments says something about society at large. A Black person saying they hate white people and they want cops dead is written off as harmless, but flip the genders and observe what happens.
 
Derek Chauvin obviously and clearly is a sick and diabolical psychopath murderer who is hopefully going to spend the rest of his life behind bars, but what about the other three that were just standing around doing nothing as Chauvin was literally murdering someone right in front of them? They could've pulled him off and saved Floyd. Yet they didn't. I'm hoping that the three guys who just stood around as this was happening see jail time for their inaction.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
(2A) The number of white people who openly incite violence against Black people is an indication of how many other white supremacists might be out there who haven't spoken up yet. Furthermore: (2B) how socially acceptable it is to make these sort of comments says something about society at large. A Black person saying they hate white people and they want cops dead is written off as harmless, but flip the genders and observe what happens.
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This is a good point.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
Racism is not the answer to everything. Sometimes, a person needs to own the situation they put themselves in.
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I agree with this. Especially the sometimes part. I think a lot of this debate gets turned very binary. A lot of people say everything is racist. A lot of people say nothing is racist. Perhaps there is not enough looking at the situation and determining it on its merits going on generally?

I think there's also a lot of civility lost in many interactions too. An example...
A black person encounters genuine racism a lot in their past.
A white person interacts with a black person and misspeaks or speaks ambiguously in a manner that might be taken to be racist.
The black person objects to the racism and is offended.
The white person objects to their free speech right being questioned and the suggestion of an insult (being called a racist).
Everyone gets angry.

If the black person could just say, I'm sorry, I misheard and I'm a bit hypersensitive and the white person could just say, I'm sorry, I misspoke and I can empathize with why you're hypersensitive... well, we might have more civil and productive encounters.
 
^ you say that like they're exactly the same thing TLB, and i think - but, of course, correct me if i am wrong - that you know that's not true.

an explicit declaration like hers is a response to decades of implicit bias in the other direction. it's not how you or i would perhaps address the situation but surely, even if you disagree with it, it's understandable that, as things change, the pendulum can initially swing a little too far the other way...

alasdair
 
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alasdairm said:
it's understandable that, as things change, the pendulum can initially swing a little too far the other way
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Sure, it's inevitable. At the moment, the pendulum is swinging too far on the race and sex spectrum... but this is still racist and sexist. There shouldn't be conscious decisions to contribute to it. Blatant racism isn't the solution to racism and it isn't forgivable any more than historical racism is forgivable. You could argue that the latter was also inevitable, but I'm not sure either are "understandable" in terms of how we judge the decisions/actions of particular individuals.
 
alasdairm said:
an explicit declaration like hers is a response to decades of implicit bias in the other direction. it's not how you or i would perhaps address the situation but surely, even if you disagree with it, it's understandable that, as things change, the pendulum can initially swing a little too far the other way...
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I try to view everything thru a lens of 'fairness'. One could say history has not been fair to blacks and I'd not try to argue. But to say the ability to make this statement is in any way making up for past wrongs? I'd say it does not. Past wrongs do not make this statement 'right', nor 'fair' that she can say this and a white cannot. Would you say that back in the days of slavery any white plantation owner degrading or deriding their slave is 'okay' or 'fair' due to the era in which it was uttered, where the pendulum was at the time? Or is it still wrong?
 
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