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Police Brutality Thread

I don't understand why law enforcement didn't ask these people to just calm down, or have them drop their weapons, or grab their weapons, or ask them if they're having a bad day, or if things at home are alright. The brutality is shocking.

These all within the last 24-hours by the way. The second video has bonus footage i.e. covers two different brutal police shootings and, apparently, somebody else shot while intervening in a fight (unclear as to the details of such fight or if police officers were involved).

Anyway. Some more names to add to the list of angels. Ka-ching! 💲



 
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dalpat077 said:
I don't understand why law enforcement didn't ask these people to just calm down, or have them drop their weapons, or grab their weapons, or ask them if they're having a bad day, or if things at home are alright. The brutality is shocking.

These all within the last 24-hours by the way. The second video has bonus footage i.e. covers two different brutal police shootings and, apparently, somebody else shot while intervening in a fight (unclear as to the details of such fight or if police officers were involved).

Anyway. Some more names to add to the list of angels.



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Shit's going to get worse now, crime is going to escalate even more now,that they know they have the power, they showed plenty of footage where they tried to put Floyd in the Unit and EMS arrived late, like one person said they should've locked up Floyd's dealer who refused to testify, he's the one who killed FLOYD, they showed footage where Chauvin didn't even have his knee on Floyd's neck but shoulder blade from every angle.

I'm still not understanding why the other cops didn't step in and take over and just stood by and watched the crowd and kept them away, they should've said alright Chauvin he's cuffed having a hard time breathing, the medics ain't getting here, let's literally fly this police unit to the hospital ourselves.

Floyd was a big dude who kept fight off Chauvin, the defense footage showed that, according to his attorney he did everything by the books, he got charged with 1st degree murder, are they fucking kidding me? The other officers were just as responsible, I don't buy that bullshit they were afraid to do anything because Chauvin was the Senior officer and all that bullshit, they sure as hell are going against their own blue code now to save their cowardly asses, they need to be put behind bars like Chauvin is.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
Poor Chinese Americans don't commit crimes at the same rate as poor African Americans.

I'm not suggesting that poverty is not (at least) one of the most significant driving factors involved, but clearly it is not the only factor.

All of that is irrelevant as it applies to @Blueberry_87's comment, which said that people like Floyd are being shot too frequently. The quotation marks around the word "accidentally" seem to imply that it isn't an accident. BLM suggests that Black people are being shot because of systemic racism. If they are being shot because they commit more crimes, that isn't because of systemic racism. Why they happen to commit more crimes has no bearing on this, unless they are committing crimes because of systemic racism... which, predictably, is the next step in the counter argument. Because it has to be white people's fault, somehow.
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yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.
 
dalpat077 said:
Nah. Ya think? Biden says the outcome of Officer Chauvin’s trial is a giant step forward toward justice. :unsure:
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He's just a puppet, there have been more mass shootings since he's been President, I hate to use that word,because we all know who really won, there's an agenda and they set the stage for it already way before elections began, just wait tell the terrorist attack start in the name of Allah, because we are Satan.
 
Blueberry_87 said:
yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.
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Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.

I assume you are well aware as to how Ted Bundy’s being taken into custody went down each time?

People just sitting in their cars, unarmed, doing nothing, minding their own business, just get shot by law enforcement do they? How about an example?

Police maintaining decorum (around anybody)? Yeah. That was my point in posting those two videos earlier today. Why didn't they act with a bit more decorum. Damn.

One dude was expedited, unfortunately, but by genuine mistake, while sitting innocently in his apartment (Botham Jean i.e. Breonna Taylor doesn't count in this regard) (and while Botham Jean may have been innocent, technically speaking, as I recall his actions at the time did indeed play a role, arguably, in the unfortunate outcome).

Drugs? In truth I'm surprised at the reactions on this thread of late on this topic. Harm reduction? Yeah right!

Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
 
dalpat077 said:
Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.

I assume you are well aware as to how Ted Bundy’s being taken into custody went down each time?

People just sitting in their cars, unarmed, doing nothing, minding their own business, just get shot by law enforcement do they? How about an example?

Police maintaining decorum (around anybody)? Yeah. That was my point in posting those two videos earlier today. Why didn't they act with a bit more decorum. Damn.

One dude was expedited, unfortunately, but by genuine mistake, while sitting innocently in his apartment (Botham Jean i.e. Breonna Taylor doesn't count in this regard) (and while Botham Jean may have been innocent, technically speaking, as I recall his actions at the time did indeed play a role, arguably, in the unfortunate outcome).

Drugs? In truth I'm surprised at the reactions on this thread of late on this topic. Harm reduction? Yeah right!

Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
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my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.
 
dalpat077 said:
Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.

I assume you are well aware as to how Ted Bundy’s being taken into custody went down each time?

People just sitting in their cars, unarmed, doing nothing, minding their own business, just get shot by law enforcement do they? How about an example?

Police maintaining decorum (around anybody)? Yeah. That was my point in posting those two videos earlier today. Why didn't they act with a bit more decorum. Damn.

One dude was expedited, unfortunately, but by genuine mistake, while sitting innocently in his apartment (Botham Jean i.e. Breonna Taylor doesn't count in this regard) (and while Botham Jean may have been innocent, technically speaking, as I recall his actions at the time did indeed play a role, arguably, in the unfortunate outcome).

Drugs? In truth I'm surprised at the reactions on this thread of late on this topic. Harm reduction? Yeah right!

Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
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www.cnn.com

Philando Castile shooting: Dashcam video shows rapid event

What's most shocking is how fast it happened. It took just 40 seconds for an ordinary traffic stop to turn deadly -- from a police officer saying, "Hello, sir," to him firing seven shots at Philando Castile.
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dalpat077 said:
Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
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No worries, no offense taken or feeling singled out 😊
 
Blueberry_87 said:
my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.
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I know what your point was. My point is that he didn't resist arrest or pose any danger to law enforcement on any of those occasions. The first time he got nailed he'd admittedly failed to stop initially but eventually the game was up. And law enforcement at that time had no idea who they were trying to pull over and, to the best of my knowledge and understanding and logic, law enforcement officers don't fire at random vehicles unless they know beforehand that the suspect is wanted or that a crime has been committed.


Blueberry_87 said:
www.cnn.com

Philando Castile shooting: Dashcam video shows rapid event

What's most shocking is how fast it happened. It took just 40 seconds for an ordinary traffic stop to turn deadly -- from a police officer saying, "Hello, sir," to him firing seven shots at Philando Castile.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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You ALMOST had me there! 🤣 I only remembered this one when I saw it again.

Nope. Sorry. Not just sitting in his car minding his business. Being pulled over aside (which could happen to anybody let's face it): everything is calm, dude tells the officer that he has a firearm, still all calm and officer says to not reach for it or move, and the poor chap, for whatever reason, decides to move and reach for his ID (so the story goes and I've no reason to doubt it). Now. Had he kept his hands where the officer could see them: we'd not be having this particular exchange let's face it.

Point I'm trying to make (not just to you obviously i.e. been trying to get this across in any way that I know how but with little to no success obviously):

Thus far, and with all of the cases cited here and those recalled from memory, not a single one of them has gone tits up without the suspect having played a part and spooking (at very least) the officer(s) no matter their race, background, or any other factors. Prime example if that Army Lt. that's now suing the department. In spite of him being difficult and full of himself: he at least knew to keep his hands on the steering wheel and clearly visible to the officer. Had he not done so: mark my words he'd have gotten a lot more than pepper spray in his face.

Anecdotally and for fun: Ted Bundy only got caught because of his poor driving skills. Philando Castile also didn't have the best of driving records (alright that I just saw now I'll admit)! 🤣 Ironic is all (if seen in the context of our exchange). :)
 
dalpat077 said:
I know what your point was. My point is that he didn't resist arrest or pose any danger to law enforcement on any of those occasions. The first time he got nailed he'd admittedly failed to stop initially but eventually the game was up. And law enforcement at that time had no idea who they were trying to pull over and, to the best of my knowledge and understanding and logic, law enforcement officers don't fire at random vehicles unless they know beforehand that the suspect is wanted or that a crime has been committed.



You ALMOST had me there! 🤣 I only remembered this one when I saw it again.

Nope. Sorry. Not just sitting in his car minding his business. Being pulled over aside (which could happen to anybody let's face it): everything is calm, dude tells the officer that he has a firearm, still all calm and officer says to not reach for it or move, and the poor chap, for whatever reason, decides to move and reach for his ID (so the story goes and I've no reason to doubt it). Now. Had he kept his hands where the officer could see them: we'd not be having this particular exchange let's face it.

Point I'm trying to make (not just to you obviously i.e. been trying to get this across in any way that I know how but with little to no success obviously):

Thus far, and with all of the cases cited here and those recalled from memory, not a single one of them has gone tits up without the suspect having played a part and spooking (at very least) the officer(s) no matter their race, background, or any other factors. Prime example if that Army Lt. that's now suing the department. In spite of him being difficult and full of himself: he at least knew to keep his hands on the steering wheel and clearly visible to the officer. Had he not done so: mark my words he'd have gotten a lot more than pepper spray in his face.

Anecdotally and for fun: Ted Bundy only got caught because of his poor driving skills. Philando Castile also didn't have the best of driving records (alright that I just saw now I'll admit)! 🤣 Ironic is all (if seen in the context of our exchange). :)
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So you think all the police shootings were justified, they all resisted or threatened the officers lives to the point it warranted them being shot and killed?
I get what you’re saying, bundy got pulled over and i assume did everything perfectly therefore he wasnt shot and killed. But to then say Castile’s death is justified because he moved his hand off the wheel? If he was hurriedly going for the glove compartment for his gun, sure, the cop would feel threatened. Castile was likely very nervous and may have been trying to comply, maybe had the thought to get his ID for the officer and made the mistake of moving a hand off the wheel. I’m sorry, but that doesn’t mean he deserved what happened. Technically, yes, if the cop said don’t move and he did, he messed up. But, death, is not the appropriate punishment.
I respect your arguments and understand what you’re saying. I think the media, and several other factors, push the rhetoric that cops are murdering POC and i don’t agree with that. However, i do think there are cops out there that are improperly trained and using their weapons more often than they should. When people continuously see snd hear stories about traffic stops ending in death and the victims are predominantly one race, it’s going to ignite strong feelings. Knowing people who are terrified of getting pulled over because they don’t know what will happen to them, is very sad to me. I don’t feel the need to dispute anything you said, I don’t think there is a right or wrong here in this discussion. It’s sad, too, that many cops who have nothing to do with any of these incidents, are being targeted or harassed. How does it all stop? 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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Blueberry_87 said:
So you think all the police shootings were justified, they all resisted or threatened the officers lives to the point it warranted them being shot and killed?
I get what you’re saying, bundy got pulled over and i assume did everything perfectly therefore he wasnt shot and killed. But to then say Castile’s death is justified because he moved his hand off the wheel? If he was hurriedly going for the glove compartment for his gun, sure, the cop would feel threatened. Castile was likely very nervous and may have been trying to comply, maybe had the thought to get his ID for the officer and made the mistake of moving a hand off the wheel. I’m sorry, but that doesn’t mean he deserved what happened. Technically, yes, if the cop said don’t move and he did, he messed up. But, death, is not the appropriate punishment.
I respect your arguments and understand what you’re saying. I think the media, and several other factors, push the rhetoric that cops are murdering POC and i don’t agree with that. However, i do think there are cops out there that are improperly trained and using their weapons more often than they should. When people continuously see snd hear stories about traffic stops ending in death and the victims are predominantly one race, it’s going to ignite strong feelings. Knowing people who are terrified of getting pulled over because they don’t know what will happen to them, is very sad to me. I don’t feel the need to dispute anything you said, I don’t think there is a right or wrong here in this discussion. It’s sad, too, that many cops who have nothing to do with any if these incidents, are being targeted or harassed. How does it all stop? 🤷🏻‍♀️
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I'm not personally sure they aren't 90% corrupt.
 
His calm demeanor, mixed with how quickly he stood up to honor the jury who convicted him of something he claims innocense... makes me feel like. Yeah, they are going to let this guy out in a few years when it settles down. Wouldn't even be a huge conspiracy, maybe 10 officers would have to know.
 
I don't think so, I'd be surprised if he got less than 10

Who knows, anything is possible I guess but after being convicted on all counts, doesn't look good for him. The whole story is pretty sad, sending someone to prison is not something I celebrate but it was the right outcome IMO, his guilty conviction... hopefully people will be able to find some peace now that justice has been served and someone has been held accountable for their actions

Hopefully it'll have a chilling effect on some of these deranged goons like the guy who maced that vet at that gas station. That video was unbelievable and represented everything wrong with the mindset of some people in LEO today, just people seemingly high on roids, their reactionary powertrip, the sense of entitlement that some people seemingly get from having a badge/gun and not seeing some random civilian disregard their own rights and immediately supplicate themselves before your authoritah

I love the comments some people have made on social media about how the ruling is going to demoralize the cops and make them leave the force. If this ruling makes you stop being a cop, I have only one thing to say: GOOD :) We need to purge the ranks of the psychos anyway and start getting people in who recognize that with great power comes great responsibility, not unhinged maniacs who feel that they can be empowered to use lethal force while respecting nobody's rights as a citizen
 
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Blueberry_87 said:
my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.
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But how is that relevant? You are aware that police have arrested black serial killers without killing them also right? Samuel Little killed a lot more people than Ted Bundy.

Every year there are hundreds of millions of interactions with police, a very small percentage of which go bad and end up with someone being killed, sometimes very unjustly and sometimes the person unjustly killed is white. So what is the point of comparing George Floyd with Ted Bundy?
 
Blueberry_87 said:
yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.
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Ted Bundy murdered girls and women in the 1970s and probably in the late 1960s.

You cannot compare the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, or even very early 1990s to today or the 2010s-2020s. There was no internet back then, 99% of people did not have mobile phones as the ones that were first around were super expensive, cameras were not everywhere, and there was no social media, people including young children actually socialized in public or would go out and it was no big deal if nobody knew where they were.

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Ted Bundy - Wikipedia

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I have met and been around two actual diagnosed sociopaths, and a psychopath. They blend in super well, are extremely manipulative, and despite what armchair psychologists claim there are not signs or body/facial language that really makes them stand out.

I am not sure why you are bringing up Ted Bundy versus black people? The majority of black people both in the USA and in other countries are not in gangs, do not sell/use drugs, are good people, and they do not like other black people who are thugs, drug dealers, into drugs, criminals, etc.
 
The amount of time between him dropping the gun and getting shot was mere seconds. He ran for a while. How does the cop know if he has another gun or not? Play stupid games win stupid prizes. A 13 yr old has no business on those streets at that hour, this isnt a normal 13yr old kid this is a gang banger running w horrible older people giving him bad ideas. He absolutely couldve changed his life with intervention. The family knew he was truant and reported him missing, he came back and left again. Why didnt they try to get police intervention before it became deadly. They paint him as this nice kid but that family knew he was running with dangerous people. These cops are regularly threatened with their lives by ruthless gangs that will kill them and even innocent children, look at that 7yr old killed in the drive thru in Chicago days after this. Where is the outrage for that? That said ACAB
 
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