Zephyn
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Police release body cam footage in fatal shooting of teenage girl in Ohio
The victim has been identified as 16-year-old Ma'Khia Bryant.
I don't understand why law enforcement didn't ask these people to just calm down, or have them drop their weapons, or grab their weapons, or ask them if they're having a bad day, or if things at home are alright. The brutality is shocking.
These all within the last 24-hours by the way. The second video has bonus footage i.e. covers two different brutal police shootings and, apparently, somebody else shot while intervening in a fight (unclear as to the details of such fight or if police officers were involved).
Anyway. Some more names to add to the list of angels.
Nah. Ya think? Biden says the outcome of Officer Chauvin’s trial is a giant step forward toward justice.Shit's going to get worse now, crime is going to escalate even more now,that they know they have the power,
yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.Poor Chinese Americans don't commit crimes at the same rate as poor African Americans.
I'm not suggesting that poverty is not (at least) one of the most significant driving factors involved, but clearly it is not the only factor.
All of that is irrelevant as it applies to @Blueberry_87's comment, which said that people like Floyd are being shot too frequently. The quotation marks around the word "accidentally" seem to imply that it isn't an accident. BLM suggests that Black people are being shot because of systemic racism. If they are being shot because they commit more crimes, that isn't because of systemic racism. Why they happen to commit more crimes has no bearing on this, unless they are committing crimes because of systemic racism... which, predictably, is the next step in the counter argument. Because it has to be white people's fault, somehow.
He's just a puppet, there have been more mass shootings since he's been President, I hate to use that word,because we all know who really won, there's an agenda and they set the stage for it already way before elections began, just wait tell the terrorist attack start in the name of Allah, because we are Satan.Nah. Ya think? Biden says the outcome of Officer Chauvin’s trial is a giant step forward toward justice.![]()
Who really won? I’m not sure who you mean, and there are multiple theories out there.we all know who really won
Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.
my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.
I assume you are well aware as to how Ted Bundy’s being taken into custody went down each time?
People just sitting in their cars, unarmed, doing nothing, minding their own business, just get shot by law enforcement do they? How about an example?
Police maintaining decorum (around anybody)? Yeah. That was my point in posting those two videos earlier today. Why didn't they act with a bit more decorum. Damn.
One dude was expedited, unfortunately, but by genuine mistake, while sitting innocently in his apartment (Botham Jean i.e. Breonna Taylor doesn't count in this regard) (and while Botham Jean may have been innocent, technically speaking, as I recall his actions at the time did indeed play a role, arguably, in the unfortunate outcome).
Drugs? In truth I'm surprised at the reactions on this thread of late on this topic. Harm reduction? Yeah right!
Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
Well this is a new one. Ted Bundy vs. George Floyd et al.
I assume you are well aware as to how Ted Bundy’s being taken into custody went down each time?
People just sitting in their cars, unarmed, doing nothing, minding their own business, just get shot by law enforcement do they? How about an example?
Police maintaining decorum (around anybody)? Yeah. That was my point in posting those two videos earlier today. Why didn't they act with a bit more decorum. Damn.
One dude was expedited, unfortunately, but by genuine mistake, while sitting innocently in his apartment (Botham Jean i.e. Breonna Taylor doesn't count in this regard) (and while Botham Jean may have been innocent, technically speaking, as I recall his actions at the time did indeed play a role, arguably, in the unfortunate outcome).
Drugs? In truth I'm surprised at the reactions on this thread of late on this topic. Harm reduction? Yeah right!
Don't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
No worries, no offense taken or feeling singled outDon't worry. Not singling you out and nothing in particular aimed directly at you. Your post just having been the last one on the thread when I took another quick look at what was going on here is all.
I know what your point was. My point is that he didn't resist arrest or pose any danger to law enforcement on any of those occasions. The first time he got nailed he'd admittedly failed to stop initially but eventually the game was up. And law enforcement at that time had no idea who they were trying to pull over and, to the best of my knowledge and understanding and logic, law enforcement officers don't fire at random vehicles unless they know beforehand that the suspect is wanted or that a crime has been committed.my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.
You ALMOST had me there!![]()
Philando Castile shooting: Dashcam video shows rapid event
What's most shocking is how fast it happened. It took just 40 seconds for an ordinary traffic stop to turn deadly -- from a police officer saying, "Hello, sir," to him firing seven shots at Philando Castile.www.cnn.com
So you think all the police shootings were justified, they all resisted or threatened the officers lives to the point it warranted them being shot and killed?I know what your point was. My point is that he didn't resist arrest or pose any danger to law enforcement on any of those occasions. The first time he got nailed he'd admittedly failed to stop initially but eventually the game was up. And law enforcement at that time had no idea who they were trying to pull over and, to the best of my knowledge and understanding and logic, law enforcement officers don't fire at random vehicles unless they know beforehand that the suspect is wanted or that a crime has been committed.
You ALMOST had me there!I only remembered this one when I saw it again.
Nope. Sorry. Not just sitting in his car minding his business. Being pulled over aside (which could happen to anybody let's face it): everything is calm, dude tells the officer that he has a firearm, still all calm and officer says to not reach for it or move, and the poor chap, for whatever reason, decides to move and reach for his ID (so the story goes and I've no reason to doubt it). Now. Had he kept his hands where the officer could see them: we'd not be having this particular exchange let's face it.
Point I'm trying to make (not just to you obviously i.e. been trying to get this across in any way that I know how but with little to no success obviously):
Thus far, and with all of the cases cited here and those recalled from memory, not a single one of them has gone tits up without the suspect having played a part and spooking (at very least) the officer(s) no matter their race, background, or any other factors. Prime example if that Army Lt. that's now suing the department. In spite of him being difficult and full of himself: he at least knew to keep his hands on the steering wheel and clearly visible to the officer. Had he not done so: mark my words he'd have gotten a lot more than pepper spray in his face.
Anecdotally and for fun: Ted Bundy only got caught because of his poor driving skills. Philando Castile also didn't have the best of driving records (alright that I just saw now I'll admit)!Ironic is all (if seen in the context of our exchange).
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I'm not personally sure they aren't 90% corrupt.So you think all the police shootings were justified, they all resisted or threatened the officers lives to the point it warranted them being shot and killed?
I get what you’re saying, bundy got pulled over and i assume did everything perfectly therefore he wasnt shot and killed. But to then say Castile’s death is justified because he moved his hand off the wheel? If he was hurriedly going for the glove compartment for his gun, sure, the cop would feel threatened. Castile was likely very nervous and may have been trying to comply, maybe had the thought to get his ID for the officer and made the mistake of moving a hand off the wheel. I’m sorry, but that doesn’t mean he deserved what happened. Technically, yes, if the cop said don’t move and he did, he messed up. But, death, is not the appropriate punishment.
I respect your arguments and understand what you’re saying. I think the media, and several other factors, push the rhetoric that cops are murdering POC and i don’t agree with that. However, i do think there are cops out there that are improperly trained and using their weapons more often than they should. When people continuously see snd hear stories about traffic stops ending in death and the victims are predominantly one race, it’s going to ignite strong feelings. Knowing people who are terrified of getting pulled over because they don’t know what will happen to them, is very sad to me. I don’t feel the need to dispute anything you said, I don’t think there is a right or wrong here in this discussion. It’s sad, too, that many cops who have nothing to do with any if these incidents, are being targeted or harassed. How does it all stop?![]()
my whole point was cops managed to arrest bundy without killing him.
Ted Bundy murdered girls and women in the 1970s and probably in the late 1960s.yes i put quotations around accidentally because in many cases the deaths were almost absurd. Philando Castile, Andre Maurice Hill, George Floyd, etc. When black people see people of color being killed by police while unarmed, sitting in their car, or even in their own damn apartment minding their own business, they might start to feel some type of way. If Ted Bundy can rape, murder and mutilate multiple women across the country, evade police, get caught,ESCAPE, murder some more, get rearrested, have a trial and go to prison— and police feel safe enough around him to not shoot him to death— i think they can mantain the same decorum around black people. Whether they do drugs, sell drugs, gang bang, whatever i would feel a hell of a lot safer around them than Ted.
The USA public and the world lost, nobody won. Biden and Kamala are racist, super corrupt, and both major parties in the USA are the same and have been for well over 50+ years.Who really won? I’m not sure who you mean, and there are multiple theories out there.