Police Brutality Thread

[Cheshire_Kat]

I live in a BIG city...

Oh well

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Acquittal: Riots in major cities

Hung Jury: Riots in major cities

Guilty: Riots in major cities

Riots are pretty much baked in at this point IMHO.

Exactly.

 

[Zephyn]

Crazy, tomorrow marks the 2 year anniversary of when my friend was shot and killed by police. I don't think I have another riot in me, but I might go pass out water bottles and lsd to help sustain them

 

[Nurse Ratched]

In listening to the instructions I believe the Prosecution was only able to prove Manslaughter. The stipulations in 2nd and 3rd Murder were not proven. 3rd was almost proven but one of the elements wasn't there. Interesting the judge read them BEFORE final arguments.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

I watched hours of the actual trial (not the excerpts) and there is no way that I would vote not guilty if I were a juror despite the fact that held no opinion prior to watching.
However I don't believe that a manslaughter conviction will satisfy the protestors.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just predicating what I believe is inevitable ...

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I watched hours of the actual trial (not the excerpts) and there is no way that I would vote not guilty if I were a juror despite the fact that held no opinion prior to watching.
However I don't believe that a manslaughter conviction will satisfy the protestors.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just predicating what I believe is inevitable ...

Agreed.

 

[alasdairm]

No. It is basic common knowledge that if you are on trial you do not testify.

it's not 'basic common knowledge' at all.

defense lawyers will advise their clients to appear or not appear in their own defense based on which they think gives them the greatest chance of acquittal. chauvin's defense felt - for reasons at which we can only guess - that his not appearing gave them the best chance to win.

jurors should not make any assumptions about a defendant exercising their rights under the fifth amendment but it is inevitable that some people see it more as a sign of guilt... e.g.

“You see the mob takes the Fifth...If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

alasdair

 

[LordOfThisWorld]

*off topic*

For some people, reparations are the only path forward. To these people, the US government owes black people a lot of money and they will not be silenced until blacks receive full compensation for slavery plus interest.

Unfortunately, the time for reparations has long since passed. If reparations were ever going to happen, they would’ve already been paid immediately after the Civil war. It’s too late to retroactively give freed slaves their 40 acres and a mule. Any reasonable person wouldn’t even know how reparations would even look now.

Is the Welfare and government assistance they get not enough?

 

[LordOfThisWorld]

My post was deleted for being off topic for me saying I like tubgirl’s post? How is that off topic?

 

[mal3volent]

My post was deleted for being off topic for me saying I like tubgirl’s post? How is that off topic?

It was deleted because it was part of a larger series of posts that was removed for being off topic. It's common practice to remove any posts that reference another post that has been removed. With the other posts gone, your post no longer makes sense and it has no purpose.

If you have any more questions please message @cduggles or I.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

it's not 'basic common knowledge' at all.

defense lawyers will advise their clients to appear or not appear in their own defense based on which they think gives them the greatest chance of acquittal. chauvin's defense felt - for reasons at which we can only guess - that his not appearing gave them the best chance to win.

jurors should not make any assumptions about a defendant exercising their rights under the fifth amendment but it is inevitable that some people see it more as a sign of guilt... e.g.



alasdair

Chauvin did not take the 5th as is his right and it is best to never testify in your own trial.

George Floyd's dealer took the 5th as he did not want to admit he sold or gave Floyd the drugs he overdosed and died from.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Where are the 40 acres and a mule? That’s what was originally planned as reparations for freed slaves.

*sorry off-topic*

A lot went to the then newly created Liberia, so that counts as reparations as well.

 

[steewith2ees]

Chauvin did not take the 5th. He just did not testify at all.

I am confused.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I am confused.

Exactly. I wish people would brush up on the law and quit being arm chair quarterbacks.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

After seeing the prosecution's flow charts on the closing thus far, I guess I was wrong. They have indeed proven all 3 charges. All the elements for all of the charges are there.

 

[alasdairm]

Chauvin did not take the 5th

@steewith2ees posted the video. he stated his decision to assert his 5th amendment right publicly in court.

which does not alter the fact that not testifying - for whatever reason - is hardly "basic common knowledge".

alasdair

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I am confused.

That is his right, anyway it is best to never testify in your own trial.

 

[LordOfThisWorld]

It was deleted because it was part of a larger series of posts that was removed for being off topic. It's common practice to remove any posts that reference another post that has been removed. With the other posts gone, your post no longer makes sense and it has no purpose.

If you have any more questions please message @cduggles or I.

Good enough for me mail3volent, thank you for your hard work in moderating.

 

[LordOfThisWorld]

Things don’t look for Chauvin, if he’s set free there will be war forget the riots.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Very interesting that Chauvin has removed his mask for his lawyers closing argument.