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All of the things zephyn said are true.You read to much conspiracies.
All of the things zephyn said are true.You read to much conspiracies.
That article is very big on opinion and very short on detail. Not to mention very short on numbers. And the FBI report was a whole seven pages long. Maybe it's just me but something that serious? A book at least. You ever look at DEA reports?![]()
FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?
In 2006, the FBI warned that white supremacists infiltrating local and state law enforcement posed a threat to national security. Some are asking, what's been done to curb the trend in the decade since?www.pbs.org
Hey. Prof. Hart. How's things? All good this side. You?Not to mention they descended from the slave patrol sheriffs themselves. The drug war, and what the cia did to ghettos with crack, and mandatory minimums means there are more African Americans doing forced labor today than during the Civil War. Literally.
Well as to the first part (about them ending up in being fired): agreed. That was the point I was making. Has to be some way around this.Likely if any of the cops had intervened and saved his life it would have just ended in them being fired. Hence the problem of why there's no good cops. The vast majority are morally bankrupt, and have been running the show for the long while.
Alright. Now you're starting to worry me. I can see how this solution may not have been popular with law enforcement.trying to use psychedelic cultural engineering to encourage leftist hippies to infiltrate the cops, and other areas of political office. Tune, in, turn on, plug in.
Good idea. See last sentence in above paragraph!But ill shut up before I'm shot.
But rape?! Wtf. Or maybe its unrelated and im paranoidThat article is very big on opinion and very short on detail. Not to mention very short on numbers. And the FBI report was a whole seven pages long. Maybe it's just me but something that serious? A book at least. You ever look at DEA reports?
Hey. Prof. Hart. How's things? All good this side. You?
Well as to the first part (about them ending up in being fired): agreed. That was the point I was making. Has to be some way around this.
As to the second part: a bit of a generalization not?
Alright. Now you're starting to worry me. I can see how this solution may not have been popular with law enforcement.
Good idea. See last sentence in above paragraph!
Alright. I'm just messing with you. Trying to lighten it all up a bit is all.
Now. I don't care what it takes: I am "stepping away from the vehicle (thread)"!Even if it's just to finish some chores (fuck I'm even speaking American now)!
A complete overhaul and restucturing of civil authorities with civilian led oversight boards is the only reasonable compromise. No, I've never seen any dea reports.That article is very big on opinion and very short on detail. Not to mention very short on numbers. And the FBI report was a whole seven pages long. Maybe it's just me but something that serious? A book at least. You ever look at DEA reports?
Hey. Prof. Hart. How's things? All good this side. You?
Well as to the first part (about them ending up in being fired): agreed. That was the point I was making. Has to be some way around this.
As to the second part: a bit of a generalization not?
Alright. Now you're starting to worry me. I can see how this solution may not have been popular with law enforcement.
Good idea. See last sentence in above paragraph!
Alright. I'm just messing with you. Trying to lighten it all up a bit is all.
Now. I don't care what it takes: I am "stepping away from the vehicle (thread)"!Even if it's just to finish some chores (fuck I'm even speaking American now)!
It is very possible to overdose and die from 2mg of Fentanyl, both without other drugs and even opiate addicts have overdosed and died from this amount, and in combination with Methamphetamine which is how George Floyd died.No, it is not, and no it does not. The blood serum concentrations used for anesthesia by medical professionals ranges from 10-20ng/mL, WAY above 2ng/mL. The lethal dose is higher than that. For opiate addicted people, the lethal concentrations are going to be higher, possibly MUCH higher depending on the severity of addiction. Your statement is flat out false and it shows you do not have a clear understanding of what you are talking about. The amount of meth in his system was very low, too. And besides that, meth actually serves to increase the amount of opioids required to suppress breathing enough to kill, except in overdose situations (levels in the blood of 0.15 to 0.5mg/mL are associated with psychosis and are still under the level of overdose... Floyd's blood concentration levels were MUCH lower than that). You are either being willfully ignorant, or lying to suit your narrative.
Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22890811/
(emphasis mine - note that the mean lethal concentration of 26.4ng/mL involved 95% of the subjects being under the influence of multiple other drugs, too)
This, exactly
I don't understand what's so hard about this. I don't care what Floyd's history was, or what kind of person he was. Unless he was currently assaulting a pregnant woman or endangering the lives of civilians, it is entirely inappropriate for cops to kill people who are under arrest, or to use excessive force to endanger their lives. Our entire justice system, and the justice system of any civilized nation, relies on the right of people to face a jury of their peers in a trial to determine their guilt or innocence, and face their punishment according to their crime. Allowing Chauvin to escape any consequences for his actions sets an extremely dangerous precedent whereby it empowers cops to act as judge, jury and executioner if they feel like it. This is the last thing we want. It is NOT the cops' jobs to punish criminals, it is the cops' jobs to arrest them and let them face their day in court. THAT is what this is about. Contrary to what I'm sure you've snap judged me for, I am not trying to make Floyd out to be a hero. I think he wasn't a good man. He deserved to be arrested that day. He did some bad things in the past and maybe even that day, I don't know. It is not about Floyd, it is about not letting a cop get away with his actions, actions which, if allowed to pass, will set a dangerous precedent for the future.
Do you want to live in a country where cops can choose to abuse people they're arresting just because they feel like it? I don't, and I seriously doubt you do, either, if you're being honest. But I imagine you're going to react to this post with the laughing reaction to show your disrespect of my time spent trying to engage with you in honest debate, and disregard what I'm saying because it doesn't support the narrative you wish to push in this incident. I am not looking at this even as a racial issue, it is a police brutality issue, and we need to draw a line in the sand, because police brutality is a problem we all face, and we need to do something about it so that it stops. It happens to people of all races, and it's wrong, and dangerous.
He wasn't extremely violent or even violent at all other than resisting them. I can't even argue with you. You just don't want to see. You are obviously biased, maybe not even against black people, just violent criminals, okay. But someone's past doesn't define how you treat them in the moment. Even if your scared. As a cop its your duty to be just.It is very possible to overdose and die from 2mg of Fentanyl, both without other drugs and even opiate addicts have overdosed and died from this amount, and in combination with Methamphetamine which is how George Floyd died.
Overdose results in respiratory depression which is reversible with naloxone. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg.
George Floyd's violent criminal behaviour is absolutely relevant and absolutely taken into consideration by all of the police there that day.
George had many times he could have surrendered, gotten into the police car, etc. but he kept resisting, going into histrionics, acting like a fool and madman, even begging and asking to be placed onto the ground and bucking and thrashing around to where he died from a drug overdose. The temporary pressure and weight of a man like that French cop Chauvin who was barely 140lbs on the shoulder, back, or back of the neck on the much larger 260lb Floyd is not going to cut off the breathing of George Floyd, but the Opiates/fentanyl and meth overdose are what ultimately killed Floyd.
Chauvin and the rest of the police were following their training and orders. It was not police brutality, as after all they were dealing with a violent criminal who is your typical garden variety sociopath/ASPD type found in prisons.
Re: if you want to see actual police brutality, look at what happened to the students in Mexico, or in the Super rare, yet super sad case of police brutality with how Elijah McClain was killed from Ketamine.
Floyd had a history of violence, hated women, and attacked and threatened to kill a woman. The police acted accordingly to dealing with a violent criminal out of control on drugs, and did nothing wrong.He wasn't extremely violent or even violent at all other than resisting them. I can't even argue with you. You just don't want to see. You are obviously biased, maybe not even against black people, just violent criminals, okay. But someone's past doesn't define how you treat them in the moment. Even if your scared. As a cop its your duty to be just.
What about this little girl? Was she a "violent thug"? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Aiyana_Jones
Thats a 7 year old, that i found, looking for the 4 year old who was moreso shot point blank. And the endless examples of innocent (scratch that, doesn't even matter if they are innocent, just u armed) unarmed people, black or white, killed every day by police. Every day.
Why these examples are the only ones that garner such media attention rather than say the children killed may be the psychopaths behind the smoke and mirrors polarizing the issue.
Dude, that's hogwash. Okay, he was a bad guy. Doesn't mean you can murder him. Even most cops don't agree with you, the one I hugged at the riot condemned himFloyd had a history of violence, hated women, and attacked and threatened to kill a woman. The police acted accordingly to dealing with a violent criminal out of control on drugs, and did nothing wrong.
Chauvin won't get a fair trial. His life has been destroyed already.
Sorry birdup. I don't know how to get your quote out. Zephyn...From your posts I take it you were raped and I was sorry to read that. I know it must be very personal so I am only asking if Law enforcement did not take it seriously? Did they not question the perp / perps? You had no investigation or adjudication? Just wondering where you stand on LE in relation to what happened to you. You reference your rape repeatedly and are obviously very open about it. Just wondering what LE had to do with what happened to you. If you don't want to respond I totally understand.But rape?! Wtf. Or maybe its unrelated and im paranoid
The perps were police officers. I was questioned and given a rape kit by another police agency, the state police. 8 hours went by before they took me to the hospital for the kit. The photos of the injury are gone from medical records. I was told verbally the kit came back negative, over the phone after 6 months. I've been ignored for records requests to get a physical copy of the report and result. The interview was cut short when I refused to talk about the mdma and lsd I consumed prior to the attack. I was then taken out of the jail and placed in a state mental hospital where ppl wore "no one know no one cares" Hoodies into work. I was given a diagnosis for schizophrenia due to the 50ug of lsd and report of rapes and forced meds.Sorry birdup. I don't know how to get your quote out. Zephyn...From your posts I take it you were raped and I was sorry to read that. I know it must be very personal so I am only asking if Law enforcement did not take it seriously? Did they not question the perp / perps? You had no investigation or adjudication? Just wondering where you stand on LE in relation to what happened to you. You reference your rape repeatedly and are obviously very open about it. Just wondering what LE had to do with what happened to you. If you don't want to respond I totally understand.
Black people in the USA kill each other or attack each other in much larger numbers-many die in drive by shootings from gangs- in various cities in the USA than police of any race shoot unarmed people.An unarmed person is shot and killed by police literally everyday in America - many times more than one.
It was not murder or a deliberate or planned killing, considering George Floyd had lethal amounts of fentanyl/other opiates, and meth which he overdosed and died from, and the fact he had covid, was in extremely poor health due to being obese and a lifetime of polydrug addiction as well as possibly having AIDS or HIV and not being on meds did not help keep him alive.Dude, that's hogwash. Okay, he was a bad guy. Doesn't mean you can murder him. Even most cops don't agree with you, the one I hugged at the riot condemned him
I am sorry you went through all of this. Have you contacted lawyers/legal solicitors?The perps were police officers. I was questioned and given a rape kit by another police agency, the state police. 8 hours went by before they took me to the hospital for the kit. The photos of the injury are gone from medical records. I was told verbally the kit came back negative, over the phone after 6 months. I've been ignored for records requests to get a physical copy of the report and result. The interview was cut short when I refused to talk about the mdma and lsd I consumed prior to the attack. I was then taken out of the jail and placed in a state mental hospital where ppl wore "no one know no one cares" Hoodies into work. I was given a diagnosis for schizophrenia due to the 50ug of lsd and report of rapes and forced meds.
Fuck that ket really helped my ptsd and this is the first time I've cried over this in a year, talking about it, and I have a meeting in 5 minutes.
They made it clear that they knew internally too, the warden at the jail who I kept asking when I could go get the rape kit done said to me "thats above my paygrade" when I said that to the cops who raped me and told them to call their supervisor
You need to stop reading false revisionist woke USA neoleftist 'history' that is not accurate at all.Not to mention they descended from the slave patrol sheriffs themselves. The drug war, and what the cia did to ghettos with crack, and mandatory minimums means there are more African Americans doing forced labor today than during the Civil War. Literally.
No, I've thoroughly followed through with seeing a psych who was cool with me coming off all meds. Unmedicated, and unpsychotic. Even on drugs. Can be a little paranoid, understandably.I am sorry you went through all of this. Have you contacted lawyers/legal solicitors?
Are you actually schizophrenic or was that somehow a false or incorrect diagnosis? Or were you diagnosed before or do you have mania or psychosis as well as PTSD? I hope things get better for you.
I was not raped in jail, but on the side of a road under next to a bush on the ground. Then taken to jail under a dui charge. I drove about 200 ft. Long story. I was tripping, a little bit. 50ug, so not super hard, but did have a lot of drugs that night. There could have been cameras, I think i maybe saw a court house across the street, idk I was taken and driven to a random spot and screamed at by the cops on the way.Were you in a County facility where the Sherriff's deputies are the LE's responsible for your safety? I know in Prison the CO's are not Law Enforcement. I'm going to assume you were in a County facility and are you saying that one or more Sherriff's deputies raped you while you were in custody on a suspicion of possession charge? Were you in an isolation cell? No bunkmates? How many days had you been in custody before this happened? Were you tripping when they arrested you? Help me understand the facts surrounding your assault as I am trying to understand how a detention facility, equipped with cameras, and sworn Sherriffs Deputies found the proper avenue to assault you without any witnesses.
How exactly were you raped? Do you have witnesses such as medical or mental health hospital staff who saw the physical damage the rape or sexual assault did to you?I was not raped in jail, but on the side of a road under next to a bush on the ground. Then taken to jail under a dui charge. I drove about 200 ft. Long story. I was tripping, a little bit. 50ug, so not super hard, but did have a lot of drugs that night.