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Covid-19 Who's planning on getting a COVID-19 vaccine? (Poll)

Yeah my girlfriend and I were talking about that very topic yesterday. Our friend decided not to get the vaccine and her reason was that she doesn't want a virus to alter her DNA. We were trying to explain how that's not what these vaccines are doing. Other than in the same way that any immune response uses DNA to develop antibodies. It's not the same thing as using a virus to modify your mitochondrial DNA, which is what she is convinced the vaccine is doing.

I've got my first vaccine dose scheduled on Wednesday. I already got COVID, too, but given I'm going to be back into the touring musician life as soon as possible, I'm looking to have as much immunity as I can, plus my girlfriend is super anxious about it so it will make reintroduction to normal life less stressful. Also I'd really prefer not to get it again down the line, it really sucked and I feel fortunate that I was just sick for a few days and got totally better fast. I saw a friend of mine over the weekend who I hadn't seen since before covid, and he got it and was actively sick for months, and got heart damage from it. He's still unable to taste or smell and said it was one of the worst things he's ever been through.
 
Complete magical thinking, How does natural immunity work? how does a vaccine work? The biological process is exactly the same antigen plus adaptive immune system = adaptive response followed by longer lasting anamnestic response.

So if there is no difference biologically then just like naturally infected and recovered people, vaccinated individuals can and do get infected post vaccination. This applies to all viruses and vaccines not just coronavirus. I is a feature not a bug. Or is your position vaccines biologically work differently and vaccinated people cannot become infected or infect other people?

Cynically maybe people want to make a false distinction because it fits a programmed utilitarian collectivist world view, getting proactively vaccinated despite the unlikelihood that your action individually makes any difference enables moral assertion of superiority. Have a fucking lollypop and a badge.

Maybe it is a savvy marketing ploy by people after a slice of the 50 billion dollar coronavirus vaccine market. This plays nicely into the omnipresent blame and victim culture. Must blame someone. You need a positive action to virtue signal, to be tagged as a good person and be seen to be good. You can buy this absolution from Pharma and the Medical-Industrial-Complex just like old indulgences from the Catholic Church where sinners bought their way to heaven. You become self-affirmed virtuous therefore anyone who doesn't do exactly the same is not virtuous and unclean, haram. All their kind, all their ideas should be attacked stamped-out, silenced censored de-platformed un-personed. You are being played.

There is always some boogeyman or should that be boogey-person, non gendered, non binary, to blame and hate on in order to foster false division and distract proles from reality. This is the oldest play in the book and it clearly still works. The useful innocent / useful idiot is once again at the vanguard.

Eloi, don't think for yourself, don't question, let the government scientists and experts do that hard thinking for you, don't let thinking bother your pretty little heads, you lucky Eloi. Infantilized populous, the government loves and cares about you, big pharma and the medico industrial complex love you as only loving parents can.

With Eloi there are always Morlocks, and it is the Morlocks people should be concerned about.
I couldn't have written it better.
I agree completely. I find it unfortunate and ironic that people who seek the greatest spiritual dimensions and knowledge, for example through psychedelics, are so naive or so short-sighted as to not realize (or not want to realize..) what is really going on here.
I can NOT state categorically that the virus has been created in a laboratory but my research and that of many other people with a scientific and technical level much higher than mine think so. I, personally, am convinced of it, let's say 80-90%.
I am in fact convinced (by evidence and research) that this virus is the greatest swindle and kidnapping that has ever been done to Humanity, carried out by the same clergy of "savior" vaccinators who pretend to stop this massacre after having created it and also having ruined at least 1/3 of the world's population.
This is a monstrous attack on human dignity, and to top it all, there is a legion of faithful followers of the mainstream, of various colors and political and ideological backgrounds, who are willing to use an experimental vaccine never tested on humans, being in fact the analogue to laboratory rats.
For the record, I am sure that this virus not only kills but is WORSE than what they are telling us and is something similar to AIDS and not so much to SARS and a flu.
The sad thing about all this is that people simply answer all this with catch-all words: they are conspiracy theories, hoaxes, crazy rant or whatever first comes to mind to simply not think on their own and not look at EVIL in the face
People simply "don't want to complicate their existence" thinking that there are (without a doubt) a bunch of people who can change every detail of their lives to the point of locking them in their homes for months, not allowing them to go for a walk (this happened in my country) taking them to unemployment and turning them into laboratory animals after stealing millions of dollars of their taxes to finance Big-pharma to make their antidote for which they then finally charge them.
I am neither a Trump supporter nor a conservative in general, nor before all this I was a follower of any "conspiracy theory", but rather tending and close to anarchism, but I am really ashamed to see how most people are behaving in this situation, something completely aberrant and sadder than seeing a line of animals going silently to the slaughterhouse.

I will not get vaccinated even if they pay me a million euros.
 
You misunderstood me.
I'm saying: don't listen to @birdup.snaildown

What the fuck does whack-a-mole mean?
It is - clearly - the ramblings of a lunatic.
You know, my native language is not english, so I needed to translate my message with a translator since my level is average-high but not enough to write as fast as I wanted, and I'm not familiarized with the slang in any way.
 
Whack-a-mole.
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Did you meant something like this?:

"In our society (which is based on sameness or very minor variations of sameness)…….the more you resist becoming a cult member of the consensus trance, the hive mind, the borg, the herd, the drone army…….the more you get the wooden mallet right over the head. Welcome to the whack-a-mole society.

Our perverse media, corrupt government and inverted religious institutions set the absolutely lowest moral and ethical standards imaginable. Lets say that these extremely low levels of moral conduct are the height of the whack-a-mole table. If you dare want more out of life than the scraps given off master’s table or you expect more out of your existence than working a job you don’t like, in order to buy shit you don’t need and you dare stick your head up above the height of that game table (to think, speak and act different than the other moles)…….whack, right in the head.

It’s beyond pathetic and sad that we have to fight our own government and the presstitues in media to dream a bigger dream than living a meaningless and soulless existence but that’s what’s happening each and every day down here on planet mental asylum. Government, media and conventional religion set the moral standards down to the lowest levels possible….a level that we’re told to meet daily, so we don’t get the old mallet over the head and so we can preserve our safety and security by mimicking those low standards……..but wait, we’re still not safe.

"This is the agenda. Use government, media, education and religion to erode all notions of morality and ethics in the society and then use the whack-a-mole principle to destroy anyone who speaks against this inverted and perverse system. Then keep lowering the height of the table to make sure everyone keeps lowering their already low standards of conduct, in order to fit in with the satanic hoard."

IMO not very far from reality.
 
The majority of humans are sheep. Look at how many people are lining up for experimental covid vaccines before any long-term safety data is available.

God that's a bad argument.

It's like... There's a disease, which we KNOW will kill millions upon millions of people, we have every reason to think millions more will face longer term health complications. We have a vaccine that appears to be very effective and safe, the only thing missing is long term studies, which rarely result in different conclusions when there's no basis for having such concerns for long term dangers.

And people want us to intentionally let millions die and many millions more have potentially long term health repercussions rather than taking the small risk that the vaccine might have long term repercussions.

It's so damn stupid. It's like having cancer and refusing to get treatment because you can't be 100% sure you might not experience a lethal allergic reaction.

Yeah, there's an outside chance you might die from the treatment, but you're almost certainly gonna die without it!

It's just irrational human nature that makes people more afraid of deaths they cause through their choices than death they cause from a lack of choice. They'd rather take a high risk from doing nothing than a low risk from doing something.
 
Gosh... where to begin with this claptrap...

God that's a bad argument.

It's like... There's a disease, which we KNOW will kill millions upon millions of people, we have every reason to think millions more will face longer term health complications. We have a vaccine that appears to be very effective and safe, the only thing missing is long term studies, which rarely result in different conclusions when there's no basis for having such concerns for long term dangers.

99.8% of people under 55 who get covid survive, and the overwhelming majority of those do not have serious disease. I have RN friends sitting in hospitals in Vancouver ready to walk out because of how overblown this all is. They sit in the covid wards all day twiddling their thumbs while the local news spreads hysteria.

The mRNA vaccines are new. We have never used nanotech to introduce synthetic mRNA into cytoplasm before. People are having reactions to the drug that are paradoxical and frankly scary... not just standard ADR stuff. Like, 19 year olds suddenly having paralysis. But let's just ignore all that because vaccines have some risk so oh well?

There's plenty of basis for long-term concerns. I could list a myriad. One being investigated in Germany right now is the possible contamination of the vaccine with the e. coli template DNA used to make the mRNA strand. It turns out that when these companies made their trial products, they used top of the line equipment and ingredients, but when they did the mass manufacturing they used cheaper generic versions, and that may make a difference.

They compensated for the lack of 4 year trials by increasing the phase II cohort by tens of thousands of people, as if the numbers game can compensate for long-term data. Hint: it doesn't.

And people want us to intentionally let millions die and many millions more have potentially long term health repercussions rather than taking the small risk that the vaccine might have long term repercussions.

People? Which people are you referring to? Who has actually come out and said we should let millions die? The answer is nobody.

There's no denying that these vaccines were rushed to market. Big pharma is set to receive some of the most massive wealth transfers in history over the creation of covid vaccines. Public money right into their coffers in the possible trillions, without long-term safety data.

And news flash... the doctors aren't doing ADR reporting. In my network alone there are people who had severe ADRs and their doctors didn't record it! See no evil, hear no evil, I guess?

It's so damn stupid. It's like having cancer and refusing to get treatment because you can't be 100% sure you might not experience a lethal allergic reaction.

What's stupid is swallowing anything the government has to say whole. They're already preparing the public mindset with talk of covid variants that the vaccines might not cover, which instantly will create a market for future covid vaccines. This is a major cash cow in the making.

I frankly don't care what sheeple want to do, but I don't want to see vaccine passports and draconion controls foisted on society, based on the premise that these almighty vaccines are a safe and sane alternative. I would rather see the government burned to the ground than accept a dystopia of that magnitude.

Yeah, there's an outside chance you might die from the treatment, but you're almost certainly gonna die without it!

The overwhelming majority of people who get covid don't die.

It's just irrational human nature that makes people more afraid of deaths they cause through their choices than death they cause from a lack of choice. They'd rather take a high risk from doing nothing than a low risk from doing something.

Just because you've decided the risk is low doesn't mean that's factually true. Maybe you need to do more clinical reading, read more ADR reports (VAERS is a good place to start), and look at some of the reporting coming out of Germany. But I guess that would cause too much cognitive dissonance for you, to actually lookup something that contradicts all the koolaid you've drunk.
 
I couldn't have written it better.
I agree completely. I find it unfortunate and ironic that people who seek the greatest spiritual dimensions and knowledge, for example through psychedelics, are so naive or so short-sighted as to not realize (or not want to realize..) what is really going on here.
I can NOT state categorically that the virus has been created in a laboratory but my research and that of many other people with a scientific and technical level much higher than mine think so. I, personally, am convinced of it, let's say 80-90%.
I am in fact convinced (by evidence and research) that this virus is the greatest swindle and kidnapping that has ever been done to Humanity, carried out by the same clergy of "savior" vaccinators who pretend to stop this massacre after having created it and also having ruined at least 1/3 of the world's population.
This is a monstrous attack on human dignity, and to top it all, there is a legion of faithful followers of the mainstream, of various colors and political and ideological backgrounds, who are willing to use an experimental vaccine never tested on humans, being in fact the analogue to laboratory rats.
For the record, I am sure that this virus not only kills but is WORSE than what they are telling us and is something similar to AIDS and not so much to SARS and a flu.
The sad thing about all this is that people simply answer all this with catch-all words: they are conspiracy theories, hoaxes, crazy rant or whatever first comes to mind to simply not think on their own and not look at EVIL in the face
People simply "don't want to complicate their existence" thinking that there are (without a doubt) a bunch of people who can change every detail of their lives to the point of locking them in their homes for months, not allowing them to go for a walk (this happened in my country) taking them to unemployment and turning them into laboratory animals after stealing millions of dollars of their taxes to finance Big-pharma to make their antidote for which they then finally charge them.
I am neither a Trump supporter nor a conservative in general, nor before all this I was a follower of any "conspiracy theory", but rather tending and close to anarchism, but I am really ashamed to see how most people are behaving in this situation, something completely aberrant and sadder than seeing a line of animals going silently to the slaughterhouse.

I will not get vaccinated even if they pay me a million euros.
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They have allll the answers. Don't show the shadow-agents though.
 
Oh, Christ. Yes, those sheeple, dumb humans other than you, oh enlightened person.

I wish you well but that word frustrates me to no end.

I'm gonna abstain from wading into the COVID vaccine argument after this for the sake of my own wellbeing, but what almost no-one critical of the vaccines available seems to get is that the actual science behind how they were developed is not new - the only difference is that governments worldwide spent unprecedented amounts of largely holographic money to speed up the usually glacial pace of pharma research and approval. Sure there are financial incentives. There always are. We live in a capitalistic world. It doesn't mean that governments globally have somehow conspired to create a mirage of fake science where these vaccines are just a ludicrously complicated conspiracy. Most actual scientists understand the reasons for concern. The ones who aren't or are vaccine sceptics generally have no understanding of the science.


The mRNA vaccines are new. We have never used nanotech to introduce synthetic mRNA into cytoplasm before.
No, and no! This is factually untrue! mRNA research has been going on for decades, with fairly extensive research on animals, and mRNA vaccines have been researched for multiple other diseases in the past several years. It might be true that a human mRNA vaccine is new - but there is no reason, by which I mean, no believable hypothesis supported by scientific evidence - to think that there is anything magically bad about an mRNA vaccine. Quite the opposite in fact, an mRNA molecule is, biologically speaking, far less dangerous than the traditional method of using a carefully neutered variation of the actual pathogen.

COVID vaccines are not going to mutate into the T-virus.
 
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Intruiging. Mind sharing the research?
I have a lot of it, it would imply to flood the thread with links.
Do you really want it? I don't cause some of them are in a telegram channel I created, and some others are in pdf, others in "favourites" and so on...
 
Oh, Christ. Yes, those sheeple, dumb humans other than you, oh enlightened person.

I wish you well but that word frustrates me to no end.

I'm gonna abstain from wading into the COVID vaccine argument after this for the sake of my own wellbeing, but what almost no-one critical of the vaccines available seems to get is that the actual science behind how they were developed is not new - the only difference is that governments worldwide spent unprecedented amounts of largely holographic money to speed up the usually glacial pace of pharma research and approval. Sure there are financial incentives. There always are. We live in a capitalistic world. It doesn't mean that governments globally have somehow conspired to create a mirage of fake science where these vaccines are just a ludicrously complicated conspiracy. Most actual scientists understand the reasons for concern. The ones who aren't or are vaccine sceptics generally have no understanding of the science.



No, and no! This is factually untrue! mRNA research has been going on for decades, with fairly extensive research on animals, and mRNA vaccines have been researched for multiple other diseases in the past several years. It might be true that a human mRNA vaccine is new - but there is no reason, by which I mean, no believable hypothesis supported by scientific evidence - to think that there is anything magically bad about an mRNA vaccine. Quite the opposite in fact, an mRNA molecule is, biologically speaking, far less dangerous than the traditional method of using a carefully neutered variation of the actual pathogen.

COVID vaccines are not going to mutate into the T-virus.
Is a matter of fact, very, very, very, enormously difficult to explain in scientific, mathematic or probabilistic terms... that the virus has already mutated when it interacted with vaccinated people who were in the last (massive) trials of AstraZeneca vaccine (the adenoviral vectored one).
You just need to check when and where the trials were.... YES! Exactly, in the same place where the "mutations" have appeared: it is almost impossible in terms of statistics that this is just random, is just not likely at all.
Brasil, South Africa, Uk and a month later: California.
It makes total sense with what we know about viruses,. So is perfectly possible that the virus will keep changing, and maybe not for the better.
 
Gosh... where to begin with this claptrap...



99.8% of people under 55 who get covid survive, and the overwhelming majority of those do not have serious disease. I have RN friends sitting in hospitals in Vancouver ready to walk out because of how overblown this all is. They sit in the covid wards all day twiddling their thumbs while the local news spreads hysteria.

The mRNA vaccines are new. We have never used nanotech to introduce synthetic mRNA into cytoplasm before. People are having reactions to the drug that are paradoxical and frankly scary... not just standard ADR stuff. Like, 19 year olds suddenly having paralysis. But let's just ignore all that because vaccines have some risk so oh well?

There's plenty of basis for long-term concerns. I could list a myriad. One being investigated in Germany right now is the possible contamination of the vaccine with the e. coli template DNA used to make the mRNA strand. It turns out that when these companies made their trial products, they used top of the line equipment and ingredients, but when they did the mass manufacturing they used cheaper generic versions, and that may make a difference.

They compensated for the lack of 4 year trials by increasing the phase II cohort by tens of thousands of people, as if the numbers game can compensate for long-term data. Hint: it doesn't.



People? Which people are you referring to? Who has actually come out and said we should let millions die? The answer is nobody.

There's no denying that these vaccines were rushed to market. Big pharma is set to receive some of the most massive wealth transfers in history over the creation of covid vaccines. Public money right into their coffers in the possible trillions, without long-term safety data.

And news flash... the doctors aren't doing ADR reporting. In my network alone there are people who had severe ADRs and their doctors didn't record it! See no evil, hear no evil, I guess?



What's stupid is swallowing anything the government has to say whole. They're already preparing the public mindset with talk of covid variants that the vaccines might not cover, which instantly will create a market for future covid vaccines. This is a major cash cow in the making.

I frankly don't care what sheeple want to do, but I don't want to see vaccine passports and draconion controls foisted on society, based on the premise that these almighty vaccines are a safe and sane alternative. I would rather see the government burned to the ground than accept a dystopia of that magnitude.



The overwhelming majority of people who get covid don't die.



Just because you've decided the risk is low doesn't mean that's factually true. Maybe you need to do more clinical reading, read more ADR reports (VAERS is a good place to start), and look at some of the reporting coming out of Germany. But I guess that would cause too much cognitive dissonance for you, to actually lookup something that contradicts all the koolaid you've drunk.
Did you see Planet Lockdown? do you what a quantum tattoo is?
I don't think that everything that Catherine Austin Fitts say is right, maybe 60% is right, but she is no John Doe and is not stupid at all.. and she has been around the wealthy and the real elite, not you, not me, not most of us. In my opinion she is right on the basics, the civilization as we know it is collapsing and they want to control the situation cause the new system (digital transhumanism, so to speak) is not prepared. All this covid shit is a perfect Trojan Horse, for all that is happening and about to come, this is so obvious for whoever that has a critical mind and no fear of what she/he sees.
Only the naïve believe that this could be "natural".
Do people really think that "goverments" are the final policymakers?? that really BLOWS my mind...! So incredibly naïve.
I promise I'll give 500mg dmt for everyone that denies this if I'm the one wrong in the next 9 years:
they are going to throw another virus, and much more mortal than this. This one was Event 201 the next one will be Clade X.
 
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