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mal3volent said:
This is why I'm having trouble. You claim to be learned but obviously have trouble with the definition of bravery. Can you see why that might apply to a member of a minority group as opposed to the majority? What is brave about living openly as a heterosexual in a society that is primarily heterosexual?
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Um, what?

Dude, a heterosexual that wears a skirt, or orders a pink cocktail is fucking Braveheart.
Also the learned thing was a joke, about how I'm surrounded by farmers that can't count further than 20, Inspector Lestrade
 
mal3volent said:
no, it isn't. it's a guy trying to get a laugh.

The brave one is the guy who wears it unironically... because he wants to.
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are you saying a straight man can't wear a skirt unironically?
There are straight crossdressers, you know, most of them actually.

I think it always takes bravery as a man to wear a skirt, because guess what, they are never wearing a sign "I'm doing this ironically because I'm such a hip fellow" - not even the hippest hipster would see this as hip - as a hetero man you have much more explaining to do, and apparently get scoffed at by gays who think you're trying to be ironic. So it's not just the general population that will make fun of you, but the gays too, who would defo support each other.
 
tubgirl.jpg said:
Easy to say for me, but I think you should try. If my hands aren't drumming, I pretend I play machine-gun bassdrums a lá Bloodbath with my feet.
I seldom sit completely still. I've been told by friends it's "annoying" if we're at a pub or something. Okay. So? I don't complain about your clumsy and awkward attempts to pick-up the bartender, let me drum in peace.


This. I actually find this really fucking impressive. Have you tried to employ this skill to playing drums for example?
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Keeping this short, because it's derailed: I have drummed for several bands, but my love lies with the piano :) I play a bunch of instruments
 
December Flower said:
There are straight crossdressers, you know, most of them actually.
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Huh. I learn something new every day. You have to forgive me. I'm a tutu wearing Gay and most of my ancestors were farmers who couldn't count. I just blurt out non-sensical arguments sometimes.
 
mal3volent said:
Huh. I learn something new every day. You have to forgive me. I'm a tutu wearing Gay and most of my ancestors were farmers who couldn't count. I just blurt out non-sensical arguments sometimes.
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:rolleyes: do you know what a hyperbole is?
I used one to make a point.
It's an element in literature. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

But you only want to understand what a gay has to go through, but not what pressure straight guys put inbetween them. Someone orders a girly drink, now he's "the gay guy" for the next year, being insulted nonstop by the people he calls his friends. Hetero guys are dicks, and they torture each other over the boogieman that is "being gay". But if the same dude that ordered the girly drink was actually homosexual, it's all cool. The example I used was as "You could even go as far as...."

Also this is in no way my opinion, this is just how it is.
I honestly have no opinion on homosexuality, it's just a defense mechanism by nature, if parents die, so there will be some who never have children of their own and can care for the orphans. It's the same with penguins, for example. I'm just saying that cis males between each other make a lot of pressure

edit: Oh, also you're missing this: I'M EUROPEAN FFS.
I do not come from the Jesus-hates-fags-USA
 
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mal3volent said:
Yet you can't seem to type three sentences without dropping a new stereotype.
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O wow, you wanna play that game? OK let's play the blame-game
Are you telling an Autist he has problems controlling what he says?
Are you? Yes I do, it's part of my condition. I blurt out things. I once asked my father at the dinner table if he shaves his balls.
You want to fault me further for it? I can't think about who I might hurt or weird out with what, and I can't control what I say in that respect. Ban me, if that's not allowed, because I can't change it.

I said sorry to you, I can't do much more than that. That you don't take my apology shows that you're exactly what I called you.
I meant my apology, and I'm not going to apologize again, just because you felt hurt by a hyperbole.
I'm done talking to you, thanks.

edit: wonderful modding, btw. Blaming people for tiny things they say and entirely blocking out the message behind it, or any argument? Just to pick on small details again. You're just looking for trouble, I'm not going to hand it to you
 
December Flower said:
entirely blocking out the message behind it, or any argument?
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No one has deleted your posts or modded anything except for two words that violated a forum guideline. And that was me.
(I think it was quite fair, and you weren’t given any kind of official notice, like a warning or infraction just to be clear.)

Let’s just move on, please.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
:ROFLMAO: What did he say? :ROFLMAO:
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usually when I say this stuff I blurt it out of nowhere.
My family had this technique of ignoring the things that go too far,
in order to teach me ofc, so if someone did not answer, I knew the question was inappropriate :)

I still would have preferred to know what I can expect, but with 3 females at the table I can understand how my question was put at the wrong place.
 
cduggles said:
No one has deleted your posts or modded anything except for two words that violated a forum guideline. And that was me.
(I think it was quite fair, and you weren’t given any kind of official notice, like a warning or infraction just to be clear.)

Let’s just move on, please.
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I meant mentally blocking out, not removing anything. I'm absoultely fine with not calling people "d..bags" anymore.
I'm a bit unaware of which words are OK and which aren't, because people here call each other asshole, cunt, and other things just as bad, and do not get censored. I will just insult people with fictional characters from Conan Doyle :) They seem to be OK to say.

mal3volent said:
thank you. We just edited out all the names you called me. No big deal.
I think if you go back once you've calmed down a little you'll see I made some good points.
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I am calm. Also I'm done with this discussion.
You made 0 points, you just attacked me for saying that gays could go as far as wearing tutus and would still be called brave for that.
Yeah, gays are often being called brave for doing "gay" things, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. Maybe not by the people, but by the media, which has a shitload of power.

You missed my point by 3.5 kilometers and then some, and now think you made some meaningful argument, which you did not.
You just played the hurt little boy and straight attacked me 100%. Nothing else, just attacks.
I just cannot converse with you, I'm sorry. I'm sure you're a nice person, but we obviously met on the wrong grounds, and now you're hurt, and I can't be fucking asked to mend your wounds. Because when I say sorry, I'm just being insulted again.

Maybe you want to go back and read again what you wrote, and how much substance there was besides insulting me?
 
December Flower said:
I'm a bit unaware of which words are OK and which aren't, because people here call each other asshole, cunt, and other things just as bad, and do not get censored
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We very consistently remove all of those.

December Flower said:
Maybe you want to go back and read again what you wrote, and how much substance there was besides insulting me?
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You literally just called me a hurt little boy while complaining that all I've done is insult you. Even though I've never insulted you.

I think maybe you got a little defensive when I called you out on the tutu comment and things just got a little out of hand. Let's move on. What do you say?
 
mal3volent said:
We very consistently remove all of those.



You literally just called me a hurt little boy while complaining that all I've done is insult you. Even though I've never insulted you.

I think maybe you got a little defensive when I called you out on the tutu comment and things just got a little out of hand. Let's move on. What do you say?
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I'm happy with terminating this pointless conversation, so yes, I would prefer that :)
Thank you
 
birdup.snaildown said:
Some people insult people in a way that doesn't breach the BLUA. Some people know how to play the system. Being passive aggressive and insulting people indirectly is totally fine on BL. It's total BS as far as I'm concerned.



I disagree.
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Yes well some of us are not on a personal mission to get ourselves banned! 🤣
 
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