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I don't use Amazon bc of their predatory business pracitces, but that's not the issue.
We could have a useful service like amazon but publicly/community-organized without one person getting so obscene rich while millions die of hunger and thirst every year.
Bezos can go fuck himself, and it really doesn't help that he looks like a movie villain with that smug grin. A most punchable face if you ask me. Or to pour molten gold into it, if you will...
 
Yeah.. It's kinda insane that the richest person on earth (or any other individual for that matter, like Murdoch) can own such a huge outlet for their corporate propaganda. It's fuckin nuts that media is privatized and tied to money in such a way. It only means that the richtest people get to decide the public discourse, which is exactly what we're seeing.
 
When it’s all public then those sources become corrupted and you’re screwed though. I hate the media as much as anyone, but I think the onus is on the individual to regulate their patronage of these sources. That said, I’m all ears when it comes to regulating these people and forcing them to be more honest.
Did you see wapo issued a correction the other day admitting they completely lied about their coverage of the drumpf Ukraine call, and I’m not exaggerating in the least bit though they didn’t say the word “lie”. The thing that annoys me the most is if a huge story is something that goes against the establishment, they bury it in the pages and algorithms. Then get to claim they are fair and balanced.
 
When I say public I don't mean centralized. As an anarchist, I believe a decentralized, but community based network of news outlets is much more promising. Especially when the media could be held accountable, for example by underlying the control of a community council. In this manner local news outlets could be fact-checked and the spread of misinformation directly countered in its roots.

And no I don't even look at anything from wapo. Also I'm German (or rather I was born here and my parents are both immigrants, I don't consider myself or feel "German"), so if I read the news it's mostly leftist newspapers in German, and I get my information about US politics mostly through Some More News aka Codys Showdy because it would be too depressing to constantly dig through your countrys shit. Mine is already shit enough.
 
We were mentioning propaganda in the ceps meme thread, and I just wanted to mention this other propaganda cartoon (from the Soviet Union, 1963...it would be interesting to know more of the backstory behind this particular cartoon)...I loved the stylized artistry in the video. It's about a dog who inherits a ton of money, becomes an asshole and eventually a fascist lol

 
That's a classic. And yeah the art is pretty cool, because the soviet union and aligned nations had a lot of artistic freedom, especially before adopting "Socialist Realism" as a doctrine for art, but also after abandoning it. This reminds me of this one George Lucas clip where he talks about how his russian collegues were a lot more free to express themselves than he was.
I also love how you can see it's from the sixties, it has a pretty colourful and rather psychedelic style.

Here's the clip btw, pretty interesting tbh. Personally I don't care for Star Wars, but the rebels were inspired by the Vietcong while the Empire is meant to represent the USA, George Lucas openly said so. Very interesting that Star Wars is still very popular despite this fact, considering how hard the US is trying to paint the brutal invasion of Vietnam as a justified war, including all the war crimes. The whole war was basically consisting of war crimes through the bombing of pretty much everything in North Vietnam and the body count as a measure, which led to the slaughter of countless civilians.
But on the other hand it's not so surprising, since rightwingers often fail to identify and process things like satire, which is also scientifically proven.

 
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The 2k checks, 15 dollar minimum wage & public option ones were the worst from that list imo. The other ones, he either didn't support (like student debt forgiveness, at least not in any amounts which would be signficant), or didn't really emphasize in his program prior to becoming president (and tbh even the public option...he supported it but didn't emphasize it from what I remember)...but those other ones, he pushed those and (imo) there were real ways to make both of them happen, but he chose not to do anything.

2K checks, he'll be able to get around that one probably because people have rock-bottom expectations from their government and will be happy to get anything at all, it's just more irritating than anything because he and his people heavily emphasized that talking point in Georgia, that you'd get 2K checks that'll be flying out the door as soon as you'd put Democrats in power, and then they did the typical Democrat thing of using weasel words and disingenous language to squirm out of their obligations to constituents. It was such a popular issue that they could've rammed it through legislatively and deployed a very effective propaganda campaign against anyone opposed to it (since it was such a popular political issue, and the timing of it made sense, coming as it did as the covid vaccination programs were starting...it also made sense that the amount would be larger than the original relief check of 1400, because people's financial circumstances were much more dire than they were in March 2020). Anyone within their own party who was opposed to it should've been threatened with a primary challenge.

15 dollar minimum, there's no excuse for that one
 
Neopunk said:
Yeah.. It's kinda insane that the richest person on earth (or any other individual for that matter, like Murdoch) can own such a huge outlet for their corporate propaganda. It's fuckin nuts that media is privatized and tied to money in such a way. It only means that the richtest people get to decide the public discourse, which is exactly what we're seeing.
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You see em constantly demonizing Russia, China, Syria, Iran and South-American countries with left wing leaders... An extension of the US empire and their biggest friends: the democratic party.

Social media is next. Very depressing.
 
Well I'm not exactly a fan of the countries you've mentioned either, or their politicians for that matter (except Evo Morales), but yeah I support your point. I just think it's kinda odd that you only mentioned the Dems, as the Reps are pretty much cool with the empire shit as well
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
You see em constantly demonizing Russia, China, Syria, Iran and South-American countries with left wing leaders... An extension of the US empire and their biggest friends: the democratic party.

Social media is next. Very depressing.
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Have you seen the amount of propaganda in the media about Syria lately? Their little psy op is paying in dividends. They expect us to believe that Assad gassed people when he was winning the civil war and the UN inspectors were in the country. It was the absolute most inconvenient time to ever do something like this. The CIA, central bank, etc are out true enemies.
 
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as the Reps are pretty much cool with the empire shit as well
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Yes true. But many media outlets go harder on republicans. I despise both, responsible for sooo much misery and death in the world.

Edit: ah I see, I misrepresented it. Yes you're 100% right, should've mentioned both, I think it was recency bias since Trump needed to be gone asap.

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Have you seen the amount of propaganda in the media about Syria lately? Their little psy op is paying in dividends.
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Uh, do you mean that Assad 'gassed' his people again recently? Or are you talking about the Trump bombing a couple years back (100% fabricated of course), I thought it was widely known that that was fabricated, guess not....
Not much to do, I don't think people care. No, I KNOW people don't care, you see it here as well. EU media is fucked too tbh, they copy some CNN stories....
If the people don't care, where should hope come from?
 
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Buzz Lightbeer said:
Yes true. But many media outlets go harder on republicans. I despise both, responsible for sooo much misery and death in the world.

Edit: ah I see, I misrepresented it. Yes you're 100% right, should've mentioned both, I think it was recency bias since Trump needed to be gone asap.


Uh, do you mean that Assad 'gassed' his people again recently? Or are you talking about the Trump bombing a couple years back (100% fabricated of course), I thought it was widely known that that was fabricated, guess not....
Not much to do, I don't think people care. No, I KNOW people don't care, you see it here as well. EU media is fucked too tbh, they copy some CNN stories....
If the people don't care, where should hope come from?
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They don’t care at all. The neo liberals and neo cons I know absolutely believe he gassed his people. The details don’t matter to peotple indoctrinated by the media. We have hmade some progress, they used to be able to just say someone had weapons or mass destruction, and ramp up for profit wars. Now they have to manufacture propaganda to ‘prove’ it first. The sad part is the CIA likely hired a group to gas some randos in the ME to make the propaganda. I hate the central bank so much
 
Are you saying Trump didn't order the bombing that killed what's his name? Why didn't he deny it then? Why would America make that up? It wasn't very well received by anyone here.
 
Xorkoth said:
Are you saying Trump didn't order the bombing that killed what's his name? Why didn't he deny it then? Why would America make that up? It wasn't very well received by anyone here.
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No the evidence for the so called chemical attack by Assad in 2018, or 2017, or 2019? can't recall atm as there were multiple allegations, was completely fabricated.
There was a whole lot of fishiness around it, some Wikileaks leaks, some other things, but ultimately it proved to be false and setup to serve as a ground for (future) military strikes and interventions in Syria. Media ignores

www.thenation.com

Did Trump Bomb Syria on False Grounds?

The American media is ignoring leaks from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons that suggest a whitewash.
www.thenation.com www.thenation.com
 
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Honestly the biggest crime is the US forced sanctions, stuff is somewhat calm but their sadistic asses do everything in their power to prevent the people to rebuild their country after 10 years, 300k+ deaths and millions of refugees. Give up... let Russia and Turkey handle the mess.
Anyone that follows this war somewhat closely, as well as the US involvement in Yemen will grow deeply cynical about the US involvement on the world stage, it is insanity, and the people in charge are literally evil.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
I dont get the obsession with the central bank man =D at some point it goes beyond money
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It literally doesn’t. The central banking system is behind everything.
archive.org

A History Of Central Banking And The Enslavement Of Mankind - Stephen Mitford Goodson : Stephen Mitford Goodson : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

A great book about the history of the international finance and it's dark role in many historical eras.
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Worth a glance. I’m right and it’s disturbing once you figure it out
 
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