Heroin First time doing h

[douxbrume]

So it’s my first time doing h on Saturday. I bought a .2 Afghan as well as narcan and a testing kit. The problem is that I plan to snort it but I don’t have a scale so is there any rough outline of a decent amount? I was thinking tiny lines little by little. Thanks

 

[JessFR]

Do you have any opioid tolerance?

Also where do you life? Like, what country I mean.

If you don't have a tolerance I wouldn't snort anything you could remotely describe as a line.

 

[douxbrume]

Do you have any opioid tolerance?

Also where do you life? Like, what country I mean.

no tolerance but I have done Opioids before, and I’m in America hence the fentanyl testing kit

 

[JessFR]

no tolerance but I have done Opioids before, and I’m in America hence the fentanyl testing kit

Yea OK don't do that. Fentanyl or no.

Take a very small amount, like, really tiny at first. And smoke it.

I don't know what kinda purity you'd be looking at, I don't live where you live. But if it's even remotely pure, and you don't have a tolerance. A shockingly small dose could kill you.

Smoking a small amount would be a lot safer.

I implore you to if at all possible have someone who can watch you. Doing it for the first time like this is when the risks are at their highest. If noone can watch you there are services you can make use of that call the authorities if they can't reach you after a certain amount of time.

But yea, heroin is EXTREMELY potent to opioid naive people. I wouldn't do anything like the size of a line.

Id be looking at starting off by cutting off a tiny piece of the heroin and smoking it. Since you don't have a tolerance you'll likely get a lot out if even the tiniest amount. I'm talking milligrams.

 

[douxbrume]

Yea OK don't do that. Fentanyl or no.

Take a very small amount, like, really tiny at first. And smoke it.

I don't know what kinda purity you'd be looking at, I don't live where you live. But if it's even remotely pure, and you don't have a tolerance. A shockingly small dose could kill you.

Smoking a small amount would be a lot safer.

I implore you to if at all possible have someone who can watch you. Doing it for the first time like this is when the risks are at their highest. If noone can watch you there are services you can make use of that call the authorities if they can't reach you after a certain amount of time.

But yea, heroin is EXTREMELY potent to opioid naive people. I wouldn't do anything like the size of a line.

Thank you so much I really appreciate it

 

[JessFR]

Thank you so much I really appreciate it

No problem.

Im sure I don't have to tell you about all the other risks of like addiction and tumbling down the hole of opiates. It's your life and in truth, we all have our own reasons for doing this, and usually if you're at this point you've already decided you wanna try it. And hey, it's hardly my place to tell you not too.

Just please be careful. Even quantities akin to a few grains of sand can get a naive person pretty high if it's reasonably pure heroin. Once you have an idea of how much you need for the result you want things will get a lot safer. But until you have a tolerance it'll remain quite risky. So you're very smart to have narcan. The only issue is ensuring there's someone who can use it if you find yourself unable too.

Apart from that. All I can say is that.. Opiate addition is really really horrible. I don't think anyone who hasn't been there can really understand. As I said I'm not telling you not to do it, but I'd feel irresponsible if I didn't at least emphasize the dangers from addiction, even if you likely have heard it before. .

Take care man. As I said if you don't have someone who can watch you and act if something goes wrong there are services you can find where you can ring them and ask them to check on you by calling back say a half hour later. Then call for help if they can't reach you.

Take care.

 

[douxbrume]

I will have someone with me and by tiny do you mean like a pinky nail or less? Sorry if this is a difficult question. And thank you for caring

 

[Jabberwocky]

So it’s my first time doing h on Saturday. I bought a .2 Afghan as well as narcan and a testing kit. The problem is that I plan to snort it but I don’t have a scale so is there any rough outline of a decent amount? I was thinking tiny lines little by little. Thanks

I vomited everything I had in me and then dry retched for 6 hours first time I took H without any speed and without any tolerance. I’d go small and incremental as others have suggested.

 

[JessFR]

I will have someone with me and by tiny do you mean like a pinky nail or less? Sorry if this is a difficult question. And thank you for caring

Well it's a bit tricky to answer. Thing is heroin purity can vary a lot from place to place. Where I live is probably one of the areas where heroin is on the purer side than most. And how pure it is will of course change how much you need to get a good result and how much is dangerous.

Also all my experience is with people who had at least some opioid tolerance to begin with.

I've seen quantities of heroin that look to be not much bigger than a few mg give a decent result in people with little to no tolerance. It was some time ago now but I remember when I started I needed what seemed like nothing compared to today.

Also as the above poster mentioned, most people wind up experiencing pretty bad nausea when they first try opioids. It doesn't seem to be universal, I've never found myself especially prone to opioid induced nausea, but it's certainly very common. So that's another reason you may wanna try starting pretty much with as little as possible and working up.

It may well be that the heroin you're likely to get won't be as strong as the stuff here, in which case you may end up finding the level of caution I'm recommending seems a bit overstated, but still better safe than sorry.

Id suggest taking a few mg and snorting or smoking it (which way works better depends on what kinda heroin you're getting. Heroin hydrochloride would probably work better snorted). As a size this is probably only a millimeter or so cubed (bout 1/16 of an inch). I'm not sure, and the heroin we get here is compressed, not powder, so that might be off.

You'd probably be fine with a significantly larger amount than that, but you may well not need more than that to get a good result anyway. It's a pretty wide distance between good result and dead.

And more over cautious is better than under cautious. You can always use more if it's not enough. If you are able to smoke it the effect should come on almost immediately. With snorting it'll take a bit longer.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

I will have someone with me and by tiny do you mean like a pinky nail or less? Sorry if this is a difficult question. And thank you for caring

The size of a pinky nail is not tiny when it comes to first time heroin use. I'd suggest no more than a match head size smoked (if its smokable).

 

[JessFR]

The size of a pinky nail is not tiny when it comes to first time heroin use. I'd suggest no more than a match head size smoked (if its smokable).

Honestly if it's your first time you probably don't even need that much to get a decent result. (again assuming the potency isn't total garbage)

The distance between opioid naive and even relatively modest opioid tolerance is quite wide and quite easy to forget after you've been using a long time.

 

[LandsUnknown]

The way that you're going about this is about the safest way that one can use this inherently very risky substance. You have a test kit, so you'll know whether or not there are impurities in it. You have Narcan on hand in case you overdose. Also, it's good that you're not planning to inject it, which is often the fast track to addiction. Plus, the act of injection in and of itself can cause problems of its own, such as infections, blown out veins, etc. Never inject this drug or any recreational substance. Also, get a digital scale and measure your dose. If you are going to do this, use a threshold/light measured dose since you have no tolerance to it or experience with using it.

You can get a scale for very cheap online at a store in-person. Definitely use a scale if you are going to use this stuff. It's way too easy to OD otherwise. Also, if you do it, do not keep doing it repeatedly and ultimately becoming a regular user. I've known a number of people who have had that problem, and it was very bad to say the least. Unfortunately, not using it often tends to be easier said than done, or at least that's how it was for most of the people I've known who tried it. Though, I will add that I do know one person who has used it on few very rare occasions here and there without developing a habit. So, there are definitely exceptions to the rule, but it's important to never use it regularly.

 

[JessFR]

Yeah. I didn't wanna get too into this because because I wanted to emphasize doing it safely over not doing it at all. Because most people by the time they ask have already pretty well decided they wanna try it.

But yea. Pretty much if you try heroin one of two things will happen. Either you'll be unimpressed, and stop, or you'll love it, and down the rabbit hole you go.

I loved it. From the moment I tried opiates I always wanted more. You can't become dependant the first time you try heroin, but you absolutely can become addicted the first time you try it.

If you have any doubts about trying it I'd implore you not to. Because it destroys so many lives, even if it doesn't kill you it often destroys so much of your life and future.

But, people have there reasons for doing this. I don't regret trying heroin... Because I don't feel like I was ever gonna not try it. I was in a real bad place and I don't think there was any real chance I wasn't gonna wind up on opiates.

If you have decided you are gonna try it. And no judgement if that's the case, you don't owe anyone an explanation. But yea, try to avoid using it frequently. Keep an eye out for finding yourself making mental excuses to use more and more frequently. Most of the time people don't immediately start using all the time. They have a period of time where they are relatively functional, and over time it takes over their lives little by little.

Take care man. I only say all this cause I've seen so many lives so damaged by this drug including my own. And if there's any chance you might change your mind. I hope you do, but I'll completely understand if you don't.

 

[JessFR]

@douxbrume one last thing I wanna say, it'd be good to hear from you after you try it. If just to confirm you're OK. It sounds to me like you've taken all the precautions anyone can. But just for extra peace of mind it'd be good to hear that you're OK.

 

[ChinaGroove]

It's been about a week.Any updates??

 

[cosmic charlie]

I loved it. From the moment I tried opiates I always wanted more. You can't become dependant the first time you try heroin, but you absolutely can become addicted the first time you try it.

Completely agree from the moment I sniffed those first two lines and felt that warm loving embrace, like a honey dipped kiss from an angel. A fuzzy love blanket of peace and tranquility its literally the most comforting feeling imaginable. That was twenty years ago and I'm still dependent and going off and on the stuff it really grabs you by the hoo haa"s and don't wanna let go.

When you say you have @douxbrume are you doing so because this came from DNM or something cuz if so the chance of it not being cut with Fentanyl or one of its analogs slightly higher than if copped on the streets in the USA. Finding actual Heroin thats clean is pretty much only possible on the Dark Web here in the states right now like everyone is saying start very small and work your way up if it is number #3 like your saying smoking it would be wise cuz you generally pass out that way into a nod before an OD much more commonly than with IV or Intranasal use where the whole dose is placed in you at once moreso i mean you can do tiny little bumps sniffing bit its just easier to guage small amounts smoking it.

When smoking the Heroin you can take one hit and then wait 5 mins and slowly work your way up till you reach a level that your safely high. Do yourself a favor and don't get yourself addicted okay cuz once that happens your life will never be the same and you will have to live with a new mission, avoiding dope sickness so you can function in society without letting others find out about your dilemma simultaneously. It's a very stressful way to go through life and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Like @JessFR says by the time your mind is pretty much made up but please do be careful in this day and age trying it for the first time is much more risky then back when I was a kid and caught up in the Dope Game.

 

[cosmic charlie]

It's been about a week.Any updates??

Hope that all is well him, please let us know your okay if you got around to trying it @douxbrume. These kinda threads always concern me when we never get a response back. Hope that nothing serious is in the way of him touching base with us.

 

[douxbrume]

It's been about a week.Any updates??

yes, I got it today, a .2 but it was obviously bunk. I’ve been smoking and just finished it for the past 5 hours spacing out about 20 minutes in between. I feel nice, but I’m definitely alive and functioning. I ended up using a meth pipe to smoke it (I’m 4 months off meth and won’t go back to it) because it was hard for me to chase which I know isn’t the most efficient idea. No nausea, but the fractures I have in my back and any other consistent pain is gone and I feel really safe if that makes sense. Thank you guys for worrying but I am okay. I am quite itchy though but I looked it up n that’s normal.

 

[douxbrume]

Hope that all is well him, please let us know your okay if you got around to trying it @douxbrume. These kinda threads always concern me when we never get a response back. Hope that nothing serious is in the way of him touching base with us.

yes I’m sorry about that, I bought it from an online source and usps was late due to severe storms in my area. I go more into detail in my response to ChinaGroove.

 

[magnoliadreamer]

yes, I got it today, a .2 but it was obviously bunk. I’ve been smoking and just finished it for the past 5 hours spacing out about 20 minutes in between. I feel nice, but I’m definitely alive and functioning. I ended up using a meth pipe to smoke it (I’m 4 months off meth and won’t go back to it) because it was hard for me to chase which I know isn’t the most efficient idea. No nausea, but the fractures I have in my back and any other consistent pain is gone and I feel really safe if that makes sense. Thank you guys for worrying but I am okay. I am quite itchy though but I looked it up n that’s normal.

For me, I liked the rush of smoking but it doesnt last near as long as snorting it. I was told not to use a pipe, but not sure if thats true? I was told to use aluminum foil & straw (chasing the dragon lol) & took me awhile to get hang of not burning it up & wasting it. You want it to glide easily along & not stick anywhere. And it's easier still rocky, if its powder it burns straight up & you waste it.) When I snort it, its not as intense but Im pain free much longer. I never know the purity, but if its decent, .2 lasted me 3 days back in the beginning. I dont use everyday. But got off pain pills after 22 yrs & Im 6mo clean from meth & trying for pain management & not everyday so Im not addicted. In a month I probably do it every 3-5 days for a day or 2 then start over. (Not that you asked, but if youre broke & hate DTing like me maybe that'll help) I started out taking bumps (like if you dipped the tip of a car key in a bag) & do it. Wait 5 or so min & see how I felt & then do lil more at a time. But (IMPORTANT) snorting, it takes 5 min to fully feel it. First time, I didnt know & no one told me & I did more a second later & then a line & it was almost too much when it kicked in. Smoking is instant. You can always do more if you arent happy, but you cant take it back if it's too much. I OD'd once (a friend & I split a roxi 30mg we thought, but it was fake & fentanyl) & getting Narcan'd SUCKS! And quick, he snorted his line, stood up. I bent down & as I snorted he said "Something is wrong." And as I stood up & turned he was already in the floor & thats last thing I knew til I woke up in the ambulance. Thank God, my door was unlocked and our friend came an hour early or we wouldn't be here. Be careful!