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Looks like my fears are coming true of a very bad mutation covid-19 is going to be a long haul for many years with these mutations which are immune to vaccines we have spent the year making.

The last thing I read on this was 12 people had moderately decreased sensitivity to the neutralizing antibodies. Is there any further data available on this? It is somewhat concerning, that's for sure, although 12 people is an extremely small sample size.
 
The last thing I read on this was 12 people had moderately decreased sensitivity to the neutralizing antibodies. Is there any further data available on this? It is somewhat concerning, that's for sure, although 12 people is an extremely small sample size.
they are also researching samples of the virus itself and its responses. For now its only 12 people with this mutation but it has the potential to explode across the world where mink farms are located. 15000 minks were killed by covid in america and is only a matter of time til human transmission in the US
 
The last thing I read on this was 12 people had moderately decreased sensitivity to the neutralizing antibodies. Is there any further data available on this? It is somewhat concerning, that's for sure, although 12 people is an extremely small sample size.
The Danske minke variation doesn't really matter, there are other variants in humans already with bigger changes to Spike. working out how much can you mutate spike before it doesn't work to infect cells, gives a limit for the evasion the virus can do.
Spike needs to bind to ACE2 for the virus to work. Original classic SARS spike is 20% different to SARS-CoV-2 and binds to ACE2 just fine. Some of these variations are resistant to some spike binding antibodies, but classic original SARS antibodies will bind to SARS2 spike, just not as well, it is not as if spike/spike RBD is the only target for naturally acquired antibodies and it is not as if the immune system doesn't adapt the antibodies it produces during infection.
If a vaccine is rolled out relying on spike neutralization then we will certainly see escape mutants that can evade some of the vaccine generated antibodies because there will be some evolutionary pressure on the virus. The mutants probably won't evade the all the vaccine antibodies entirely the virus doesn't need to. Antibodies don't prevent local infection, the virus doesn't have to completely evade the antibodies to reproduce so the selection pressure is not super strong. A lot of infections happen and are cleared without any IgG antibody involvement at all.

Binding antibodies in circulation should significantly reduce infection severity if the infection gets out of hand. The down side is mutants where the vaccine derived circulating antibodies are not properly neutralizing could lead to antibody dependent enhancement ADE. So being vaccinated could make things worse. This hasn't been seen with SARS-CoV-2...yet. That possibility would strongly encourage rational people who are not at high risk from COVID to wait and see what happens rather than rushing into getting vaccinated early on.

People who have worked it out realize any vaccine can likely reduce symptomatic infection but probably has limited effect on transmission. A vaccine taken by people who are likely to have a rough time with COVID will give them a better chance if they do collide with it and reduce the low IFR even more.

The virus is not going away completely there will always be some level of infections. Who cares?
In the next phase post vaccine, the testing sensitivity will be dialed down making positives disappear, vaccinated people will almost never be diagnosed with COVID because that is unpossible. Goal-seeked targets will have been met, The deluded will celebrate and congratulate themselves for defeating a force of nature. This is an old playbook. Previous versions of this playbook didn't involve destroying economies, neglecting treating sick people without COVID who would have survived otherwise, blatent profiteering and profiting from suffering, relentless propaganda, censorship and violation of basic human rights. Then having broken things that didn't need to be broken, killing people who didn't need to die, refuse to look at the numbers that show the whole thing as predicted was utterly futile, that there is no difference in deaths between countries with heavy NPIs and those that didn't.

This is a new normal, just not that new. All very predictable.
 
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We have to really watch out for this new cluster 5 mutation coming out of denmark which researchers said on the 5th has shown signs of been able to neurtalize antibodies making any vaccine we are working on now ineffective. This is a mutation from minks which is greatly concerning for america and its mink farms and lack of concern for everything.

Looks like my fears are coming true of a very bad mutation covid-19 is going to be a long haul for many years with these mutations which are immune to vaccines we have spent the year making.
On that- when I heard that tale, I mistrusted it instantly. They are trying to destroy all of thw world's economnies except China of course.

How convenient to suddenly need to wipe minks off the face of Denmark, the world's largest Mink fir producer. Will have a crippling effect of Denmark's economy.

But came here to say @Xorkoth sorry didn't reply to you more fully mate still.

Good news. Wow, Im okay now. My homeopathic medicine course has taken me rapidly from certain death 3 weeks ago, to nowhere close to death.

Feeling better, healthier, stronger every day. Gaining weight, infections much easier to treat and keep clear. It's astonishing. This is outright the most dramatic improvement I have had in such short time in my life, and was in the worst condition ever before I started this course of medicine.

The healing was very heavy and rough for 2 weeks, but wow it worls miracles.

So Im okay again! If only I had hope for the world and future for a free humanity...

But now they are fully hellpent on trying to implement forced global vaccinations.

The biometric ID chip, 5G compatible, in both a monotoring, data recording, finance holding, tracking and direct weaponry sense, is a genuine patented technology by Bill gates, not a wild theory. The transhumanism agenda is very real.

The patent is 6 06 06 I believe! And is labelled as Luciferanism or something like that.

Again, their concept of- Hiding the truth in plain sight!

Anyway, I did have Corona, it was diagnosed officially at the tail end, with only a trace left in my lungs, but a very real, legitimate accurate diagnosis methid called Vega Testing.

Please please do not take Google drug company propaganda at all seriously when it insists vega testing is bunk.

It is absolutely bang on and precise. I have tested it thoroughly over years with multiple foods,,supplements, herbs, drugs...i know exactly what I am badly allergic to, also what I tolerate and benefit from massively,,in every case.

I knew in past which outdoor cannabis plants were infected with fungus, and which weren't.

I have run my own extensive series of control testing. Vega testing has been bang on 100% precise every single time.

I can't argue the truth about the pandemic hoax and all around it, hence my delay replying to you on it. I did definitely have corona though,,and it ain't a mere patch on the Coxsackie viruses or many other infections I have had, in my own experience.

And I'm not suggesting that your (cousin Dr is lying at all, but those mainstream scientists most certainly are.)

But I also wanted to say, and I really don't mean this insensitively, you are officially the first person I have heard report actually knowing close people who have allegedly at least, died as a result of Corona, outside mainstream media, in real life or on forum.

I understamd the real death rate to be 0.6 %. So much more going on than meets the public eye, that is sure. I'm not trying to argue against you btw.

Anyway, here is a very clever American lady Dr who really spells this all out in a tight nutshell.

Honestly this is worth a listen if we care about this world, our friends, family, and hope for a future.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-carrie-madej-warns-about-new-vacicnes_XvHNeuazfsDtHrj.html
 
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On that- when I heard that tale, I mistrusted it instantly. They are trying to destroy all of thw world's economnies except China of course.

How convenient to suddenly need to wipe minks off the face of Denmark, the world's largest Mink fir producer. Will have a crippling effect of Denmark's economy.

But came here to say @Xorkoth sorry didn't reply to you more fully mate still.

Good news. Wow, Im okay now. My homeopathic medicine course has taken me rapidly from certain death 3 weeks ago, to nowhere close to death.

Feeling better, healthier, stronger every day. Gaining weight, infections much easier to treat and keep clear. It's astonishing. This is outright the most dramatic improvement I have had in such short time in my life, and was in the worst condition ever before I started this course of medicine.

The healing was very heavy and rough for 2 weeks, but wow it worls miracles.

So Im okay again! If only I had hope for the world and future for a free humanity...

But now they are fully hellpent on trying to implement forced global vaccinations.

The biometric ID chip, 5G compatible, in both a monotoring, data recording, finance holding, tracking and direct weaponry sense, is a genuine patented technology by Bill gates, not a wild theory. The transhumanism agenda is very real.

The patent is 6 06 06 I believe! And is labelled as Luciferanism or something like that.

Again, their concept of- Hiding the truth in plain sight!

Anyway, I did have Corona, it was diagnosed officially at the tail end, with only a trace left in my lungs, but a very real, legitimate accurate diagnosis methid called Vega Testing.

Please please do not take Google drug company propaganda at all seriously when it insists vega testing is bunk.

It is absolutely bang on and precise. I have tested it thoroughly over years with multiple foods,,supplements, herbs, drugs...i know exactly what I am badly allergic to, also what I tolerate and benefit from massively,,in every case.

I knew in past which outdoor cannabis plants were infected with fungus, and which weren't.

I have run my own extensive series of control testing. Vega testing has been bang on 100% precise every single time.

I can't argue the truth about the pandemic hoax and all around it, hence my delay replying to you on it. I did definitely have corona though,,and it ain't a mere patch on the Coxsackie viruses or many other infections I have had, in my own experience.

And I'm not suggesting that your (cousin Dr is lying at all, but those mainstream scientists most certainly are.)

But I also wanted to say, and I really don't mean this insensitively, you are officially the first person I have heard report actually knowing close people who have allegedly at least, died as a result of Corona, outside mainstream media, in real life or on forum.

I understamd the real death rate to be 0.6 %. So much more going on than meets the public eye, that is sure. I'm not trying to argue against you btw.

Anyway, here is a very clever American lady Dr who really spells this all out in a tight nutshell.

Honestly this is worth a listen if we care about this world, our friends, family, and hope for a future.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-carrie-madej-warns-about-new-vacicnes_XvHNeuazfsDtHrj.html
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Yes, I figured out, stupid dopey me, in an LSD after haze in my favour, mistook two seperate threads, the other being the current Month lockdown in England UK.

Thanks for letting me know that from your end. I will go up now see what needs tidying or deleting.

Thanks again. I was a little afraid lol, not because I saw it was yourself personally in my reply alert, but just the nature of this tooic and high passions- to be flogged and ridiculed.

Hope you are good yourself.
 
My birthdays coming up and were still gonna be in a lockdown ffs lol idk if it's just me but strangely since this whole lockdown thing I've started to appreciate life more anyone know what I mean?? It feels like the world has changed in a way we can all feel
I agree it's a global issue that is forcing us to work together on a solution.

We also appreciate life a bit more because sometimes we don't know what we have until it's gone. It's a tough lesson to learn but it makes life rich.

HBD dude
 
I agree it's a global issue that is forcing us to work together on a solution.

We also appreciate life a bit more because sometimes we don't know what we have until it's gone. It's a tough lesson to learn but it makes life rich.

HBD dude
The solution, and the only real solution, for a virus with an actual 0.6% true fatality rate, is that we all wake up and realize that we are being massively manipulated.

They are relying on enough people to buy their narrative, in order to basically continue to give them more powers willingly, by consent- "in the interest of the common good" to do whatever they want and have planned for us all.
 
The only manipulation happening is with people being goaded into going out into public and speaking their conspiracy theories.


There isn't a shortage of Karen memes and there is a good reason why.
 
to do whatever they want
yeah, they're going to take over the world and take all our money because we have to wear a mask when we're in a store! the humanity!

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yeah, they're going to take over the world and take all our money because we have to wear a mask when we're in a store! the humanity!

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alasdair

Wow, that's really great.

People don't seem to realize that a lot of the stuff going on now has happened before. Mask requirements have happened in America before. Public health quarantines have happened before.

It's just everything is now supposedly the final step in an incomprehensible huge and competent conspiracy. One that is making endless progress yet never getting any closer to its goal.
 
The solution, and the only real solution, for a virus with an actual 0.6% true fatality rate, is that we all wake up and realize that we are being massively manipulated.

They are relying on enough people to buy their narrative, in order to basically continue to give them more powers willingly, by consent- "in the interest of the common good" to do whatever they want and have planned for us all.
And what about the people with asthma or copd like my grandma sometimes you gotta think about other people other then yourself mate and stop believing conspiracy theory the government wouldn't call a lockdown for no reason unless we are not allowed in danger the same thing happened one hundred years ago look it up then a normal seasonal flu mutated into the most deadly pandemic in history so I hope it doesn't get like that but if it does, people dying and choking from pneumonia on the buses dying in a day I hope all the people who think they know better then world renowned scientists
 
Yeah I'm so sick and tired of people crying about wearing masks in public. Get the fuck over it and quit whining. Wearing a mask in public isn't giving any sinister cabals any power, and it's not an assault on your personal liberty. It's just common sense during a pandemic. In fact people should be wearing masks and washing their hands and being careful during flu season every year, too (and some do).

I agree some governments have gone too far. But a lot of Americans act like being required to wear a mask at the grocery store is one step away from Communist China. It's not. For fuck's sake we don't even have a mask mandate, it's just being strongly recommended.

If you look at total deaths this year compared to average, we are riding about 25% higher (perhaps less in aggregate, during the peak we hit about 30-35% higher, and it's been less some months). That's a lot more deaths, some of which could be prevented if people weren't such prima donnas. Instead we have conspiracy theories everywhere... people saying that all deaths of any kind are being reported as covid (blatantly untrue, if you take a few minutes to look it up, the vast majority of deaths are being reported as being caused by other things), for example. So let's say the death rate is 0.6%... that's pretty low, fortunately, but consider that the flu has an average mortality rate of 0.00018% (18.1 deaths per 100,000 people). So COVID is actually ~3,333 times more deadly than the flu, if your 0.6% figure is true (0.6 divided by 0.00018 ). Applying a little bit of logic and critical thinking can easily show that, while it's unlikely to kill any given individual, COVID is not something to take lightly, and given how transmissible it is, precautionary measures are important. And it sure as hell is more deadly than the average flu.
 
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I think Andy Beshear (KY Gov) is suppose to address the state on maybe a new Covid lockdown situation tomorrow. Not really looking forward to possibly restaurants and other non-essential places being closed again.
Makes it a pain in the ass having to travel a great distance to a store that does curbside service (when their other store is like less than a mile away).
From what I've read, Kentucky isn't doing so well in the # of Covid cases around the state, so I am guessing that I am going have to get ready for another lockdown.
 
My best friend, or any of my best friends, are not even ALLOWED in my back garden now! However near or far, whatever the thickness of the space suit.

If caught, and people are being strongly encouraged to spy on each other and call Police, who then, with one single tip off have right and reason to suddenly enter your home and search every room in your house.

This is happening in the UK a lot right now. One lady in our street, a Romanian woman, had her house invaded by police after neighbours grassed her up for having 9 childten!

We are not having a single guest currently. We couldn't afford to risk it. If they force enter because, god forbid, two people from seperate households, actually MEET, in a large open back garden, they would see my vaporizers, search out my weed and lsd...

And it's a £200 fine per individual, per OFFENCE, doubling each time up to £6,500.

And we are still having it drummed into us that this will not be enough. Bill Gates insisting that life can ONLY go back to normal when every single petson on the planet is vaccinated- aka-ID chipped and injected with 5G conductive nano-particles, which have been a key component in tne chemtrail programme for decades.

I wonder how many of you here believe chemtrails are also just a wild conspiracy.

Bill Gates Biometric ID vaccine technology is patented- 60606.

They are officially labelling it Luciferism.

Strange choice of words and numbers?

There is no conspiracy in this, it's plain reality. This technology exists. Their intentions to merge humans with A.I has been openly spelled out for several years now, sold as a good thing. A moneyless society similarly. We only need an ID chip! These are their actual, real life aims. Not conspiracies. One of the famous Rockerfella brothers openly admitted/revealed that their ultimate goal and aim has always been to have every single person in the world micro ID chipped by 2030 at the latest.

I watched the interview with my own eyes, a good decade ago now.

Just because something long proposed and talked about hasn't happened yet, does not mean the project is not in full swing.

Never has the State, in UK at least, had so much power, control, and threat over the citizens.

My friend can't come in my back garden to offer his emotionally, mentally vulnerable life long friend support.

But he can go to work! The elderly in this country in care homes are dying prematurely, faster than ever, not from Covid but emotional breakdown due to being so wickedly deprived of the right to see their families and loved ones.

I don't know the official suicide statistics in this country but it is certainly higher than ever and risng by the day, as is domestic and child abuse, while mental health service support is denied access, limited, or overworked.

Staying indoors, confined, no friends or family to visit, no social contact, fear fear fear, doom of the future- these things have such a destructive impact on the biology and immune system.

50 million people who have reportedly contracted Covid globally, only 5 are officially known to have been re-infected.

Immunity acquisition is not just possible, but essential, and basically preventable too by locking people down into their houses and calling off woodstock, hampering and weakening immune systems at the same time by crippling emotional states, perpetually drumming into people nothing but fear and hopelessness and doom and gloom, no light or hope for the future.

This is a recipe to make people sick. Who are then much more likely to get covid, in a weaker immune condition.

The reason not a single natural coronavirus vaccine has been approved in decades of trying, is because it has so far proven to be entirely impossible.

In every single circumstance, all animals tested showed positive intial signs, but then when infected with the virus, had significantly weaker resistence to it than the non-vaccinnated animals.

This time- animal trials have been skipped altogether! It is human trials now! And now the vaccine companies and all involved in the authorisation and issueing of the vaccine, have 100% immunity from law. There is no compensation, noone to complain to.

These, too, are facts. And ones which really should alarm.

For something that does not even warrant a vaccine in the first place. Over 99% of people recover fairly quickly with only mild symptoms.

Yet- we have to shut down the entire world! Deny dying elderly acccess to their families, triple suicide rate, exacerbate depression and anxiety, destroy businesses, economies, and the rest.

These are just the facts of the matter, if you step back and take a clearer view of the situation and tone down the buzzing intefering equivocation fear-oriented media campaign based on false statistics, and flawed testing procedures.

I feel just as passionately about all this as any of you do. We just sit on opposite sides of the fence, as an understatement.

Anyway, I will attach a few images. One I just came across, the mass testing program in Liverpool UK now, some stats regarding the validity of the pcr test vs a more reliable one.

And a few shots I took myself of clearly natural plane emissions,,because no way would our governments lie to us, spray toxic chemicals and heavy metals into the atmosphere for decades, seek to cull us with deadly forced vaccinations, to adhere to the Georgia Guidestones 10 modern day commandments.

"Surely they wouldn't do that! Would they?"

Okay okay, so they have been secretly spraying chemtrails all over the world for decades...but the pandemic is real, and locking down the world and destroying as many lives in the process as possible, they would never do that, because they really care about humanity and want us all to live happy, long, healthy, peaceful lives.

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Now please take a good look at this. See those clearly unnatural, technology created, ripples or waves, that is HAARP which is conducted via the nano particles and other metals and chemicals in chemtrails.

It is undeniable! This day, to see it in real, was the most unnatural sight I have ever seen. Photos can never do justice. We were chemtrailed hard as hell here in UK for years on end.

Yet for so many it was still- "nah...the government wouldn't do that and lie about it".
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These are just a few shots I took of many many. But the haarp activity is so abundantly visually clear here, hence me showing just these.
 
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El Paso's morgue is full so they are loading dead COVID bodies into a refrigerated truck.



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I'm sure they are. It makes a good, powerful, striking image.

Where are the suiciders being loaded into trucks, photoed and displayed fpr the world to see. As well as the cancer patients who have died this year, contrary to prognosis, from treatment blockage.

I know I see shallow, small minded and insensitive. I am in truth, far from that. Just very passionate about the sheer unimaginable wrong in this whole thing.

If I was more intelligent, had not degraded my intelectual capacity for fact and source finding and sharing etc, with a humungous quantity of MDMA in my youth, literally about 35,00 MDMA pills, maybe I could do a better job at presenting my case.

But that is on me. I am damaged goods no question, but that doesn't stop me caring deeply about the world, nature, humanity, and honestly, every single person here, however much you all see me as a loon and likely moron too.

I know I post quite aggressively. Sorry. My passions run too high.

We ARE still on the same side. We just have very different views. We are not the bad guys.
 
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