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Benzos Can you feel euphoria with benzos if you don't have anxiety?

emkee_reinvented said:
Its also very close to Flunitrazepam which a lot of people find 'euphoric'.

Clonitrazepam would also be a correct name for clonazepam I believe.

Essentially for me the benzo euphoria is just warmth instead of the coldness of an anxious state. Like when used during or after a stimulant
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Funny thing, where I live flunitrazepam is the only benzo that requires a special prescription and it's under maximum control. It's in the same category as morphine, oxycodone, tapentadol, fentanyl, amphetamines, etc.
All this due to an epidemic that occurred in the 80s of abuse and dependence on flunitrazepam (popularly known as "chicota" and misuse by snorting).
 
^^^^I think Flunitrazepam is particularily hard to get where i am as well. either because of its stigma or a similar reason you mentioned...it might even be illegal here......I know the only time ive had rohypnol tablets were from a DW market, one of the only benzos i havent sourced just from the street..... where i am alprazolam,clonazepam, lorazepam, diazepam, oxazepam, etizolam, temazepam all seem to be widely available and easy to acquire if one was inclined to do so. but ya, never seen anyone with a script for flunitraz
 
OntarioGuy said:
^^^^I think Flunitrazepam is particularily hard to get where i am as well. either because of its stigma or a similar reason you mentioned...it might even be illegal here......I know the only time ive had rohypnol tablets were from a DW market, one of the only benzos i havent sourced just from the street..... where i am alprazolam,clonazepam, lorazepam, diazepam, oxazepam, etizolam, temazepam all seem to be widely available and easy to acquire if one was inclined to do so. but ya, never seen anyone with a script for flunitraz
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It never felt special to me, obviously the dosage was to low 1mg. As they are raved upon in the hardcore drugscene. They are still prescribed, but the 2 mg tabs no longer.

Getting a script is close to impossible probably, a old friendof mine is in that scene. While my personal favorit benzo; Temazepam is a lot less looked after/ not handled that strict. Flunitrazepam must have had something special, I just don't get it. Maybe at 2 mg it shines?
 
ya, they hand out restoril like candy where i am. and ya i didnt find anything special about flunitrazepam. just found it a typical strongish benzo in effective in the same dosage range as clonazepam

I think flunitrazepam at one point may have been just the in vogue benzo, like xanax is today, or halcion was in the 80s. then it unfortunately got tied up in a couple of date rape scandals....which i personally never understood. any benzo could technically be used for inducing amnesia to cause harm to others, why single out one specific benzo because it was involved in a couple of incidents?

Im sure someone could slip 20 mg of etizolam powder into an alcoholic beverage i was drinking and i guarantee i would likely not notice until i came out of my blackout....yet here it is, available as anything can be lol

my point being, there are benzos that are just as hypnotic and amnesic of the same potency,or stronger, that never got any sort of date rape stigma tied to them, though id be willing to bet everything I own that everything from ativan to xanax has been used for similar purposes
 
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A lot of people seem to find benzos recreational, but I suffer from pretty bad anxiety/panic disorder so they just make me feel normal (and sometimes they don't even do that).

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Benzos have never ever made me euphoric in the slightest. I just use 'em for sleep. I like xanax because I can wake up and not feel like a zombie (my avatar not withstanding). Even though I still feel it when I wake up, it's not like valium where I feel dulled and dragging the whole next day. I just think my gaba clusters are wired differently than people who like them more. Same with booze- never really liked alcohol and never understood how people could use it like it was crack. Of course, for benzos, I can see how you get caught up. Take a mig before bed, all of a sudden, it's been 5 days and you gotta check yourself.

I've been meaning to take a light dose of gabapentin and .5 xanax. Seems to be some evidence they mix well, and the enhancement might be considered euphoric. I just gotta go easy. I only have the 300s of gabapentin, I'd rather start with a 100 and .5 of xanax to start, see what that does for me.
 
tarman said:
Benzos have never ever made me euphoric in the slightest. I just use 'em for sleep. I like xanax because I can wake up and not feel like a zombie (my avatar not withstanding). Even though I still feel it when I wake up, it's not like valium where I feel dulled and dragging the whole next day.
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Etizolam is even softer and warmer but the pharmacology/ kinetics make them a bit alike Alprazolam. Less 'recreational' more functional.

Agree totally on the Diazepam, never again unless needed.
 
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As a person who has suffered from severe anxiety & panic attacks their entire life, I use to get tinges of 'euphoria' from benzo's in my 20's. Now a days though, I am in my 30's and I find benzo's incredibly boring and have never understood why people fiend for them so much like it's good shit.

Yes going from anxious to total relief is a great feeling, but it's nowhere near the euphoria of heroin or methamphetamine. I actually find benzo's to be dysphoric some times. Especially if they make me incredibly drowsy at a point in time where I would rather be alert and awake. I also find that if I am already on a euphoric drug and take benzos, they actually reduce my euphoria or eliminate it completely. Except in the case of methamphetamine, for me, I'd say benzos + meth can be a smoother and even more euphoric experience than meth by itself.
 
Benzos + stimulants is a win. The euphoria is increased, but the disinhibition often leads to taking more stimulants than anticipated.

Benzos (high dose) + opioids = a waste of opioids. Benzos + psychedelics = waste of a psychedelics. Benzos + dissociatives = a reduction in the antidepressant after effects (benzodiazepine pretreatment before ketamine infusions result in a marked decrease of the antidepressant effect).
 
for me I get alot of euphoria from clonazepam. but im also prescribed methadone and nabilone which i take in the same dose, so its likely the synergy of all 3....... but if I vape etizolam I definitely notice a sense of warm euphoria
 
Yeah since I have been taking alprazolam the euphoria from tramadol is gone. But, I can't deny that I feel more safer when I'm taking +400mg. of tram.
I have a prescription for clonazepam and I hope it's better. At least I have good memories of that benzo and it didn't seem as sedative as the alprazolam.
 
I'm a power electronics / death industrial 'musician'. I use to take klonopin in my 20's and it took away my inhibitions enough to be able to get into character and record my vocals. It was almost a "psychotic" manic state that I was able to utilize to the benefit of making 'psycho' music.

Now i'm in my 30's and prescribed it legally. And although I rarely take it ever day, when I do take it, it is mostly just a heavy sedated feeling (if the dose is high enough).

I also use to get nausea from klonopin. I'm not sure why, as I learned recently that they gave people on chemo benzo's to stop nausea. Thankfully this effect went away.

I find lower doses (like .25mg, .5mg) paired with my other meds is just perfect. It's not TOO sedating, not too brain dulling, but still gives me a subtle relaxation and keeps me from panicking.
 
supersonic89 said:
Yeah since I have been taking alprazolam the euphoria from tramadol is gone. But, I can't deny that I feel more safer when I'm taking +400mg. of tram.
I have a prescription for clonazepam and I hope it's better. At least I have good memories of that benzo and it didn't seem as sedative as the alprazolam.
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Klonopin for president when it comes to benzos. Xanax is meant for panic attack disorder and in that regard it does its job pretty well. If you're looking for relaxation like most people are from benzo use.. xanax hits you like a god damn brick. My idea of being "anxiety free" is not slurring my speech and eating all the food in the fridge (for some reason benzos make me so hungry like weed munchies x10). I also black out on xanax. I've tried lower doses to make it stop happening and I always just fall asleep randomly at the end and the only thing that prevents that is combining it with stimulants. Personally--I want more from a substance that I willingly put into my body than being anxiety free. I'm already emotionally numb all the time and maybe some of that is from how America thinks men should behave--not too emotional and feelings are "feminine." It's like I'm naturally benzo'd out all the time anyway and it just makes me so sedated. But klonopin for some reason doesn't make me randomly black out and wake up not remembering what happened. On the rare occasion that I do take a benzo I would take klonopin any day of the year instead of xanax. I don't see a recreational use for xanax but I guess it does make you not give a crap about any of your life problems temporarily. And I do respect that for some people it is highly addicting and maybe if I lived their life I would understand it more.
 
Couldn't agree more about alprazolam. the triazolos seem to be particularly reliable in inducing the delusion of sobriety. etizolam also does this to me when i dont have a tolerance. rn i could take a lot of both, but again, I have a what id consider a pretty heavy tolerance atm. the only "Pam" ive found to be as hypnotic and blackoutish while i still try to claim im sober is temazepam.

I also agree that clonazepam I think is a better option for relaxing, xanax is better if you are in a legit crisis and melting down with anxiety and panic
 
GetMeOutOfThisCRAP said:
Klonopin for president when it comes to benzos. Xanax is meant for panic attack disorder and in that regard it does its job pretty well. If you're looking for relaxation like most people are from benzo use.. xanax hits you like a god damn brick. My idea of being "anxiety free" is not slurring my speech and eating all the food in the fridge (for some reason benzos make me so hungry like weed munchies x10).
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Exactly the same things that I look for. I hope clonazepam is different. The only thing I'm afraid of is behaving like a dumbass, because in the past I did a lot of stupid things under the influence of clonazepam. But it may have been that I was taking a lot of pills without tolerance. Also, as it takes a little longer to take effect than short acting benzos, so I took too much thinking that 0.5 or 1 mg it didn't work.
Honestly alprazolam did not help me too much for my social anxiety, even lorazepam helped me more. What a letdown was xanax. It also makes me sleep too much, more than 8 hours a day. I hate that. And just like alcohol, it make my appetite to skyrocket. I don't take it to get high now anyway, just for a bit of relaxation or anxiety-free when talking in public and as an anticonvulsant. In that sense I liked that when taking it siblingual, the effects are almost instantly.
 
Yeah there's only one thing in my life that I just absolutely regret and can't ever take back and that's the first time I tried xanax. I'm not going to type it out because it's not a funny or worthwhile story but I'm really just going to have to live with it until my grave. Not the worst thing but it just is so out of character and only benzos can makes someone do something just so far from themselves and just absolutely not remember a second of it. Any other drug I've tried there were consequences but not something just so unexplainable :/
 
Yes, benzos (Xanax) with alcohol for me is just that, one moment you are you and remember and then just blackness.

But it’s very good for actual anxiety. Helps me a lot 1-2 times a month. But take only 0.5 mg sublingual on those occasions.
 
This thread was so instructional to me in that I have experience of taking Xanax for acute anxiety 5-7 years. Only occasional, no addiction whatsoever. Medical issue.

And in light of my experience, it’s rather clear how for some people Xanax works differently - strong disinhibition, for example. But it’s also clear, obvious even how there are these myths, hearsay about the drug. Now I am reading things about other drugs I haven’t taken in a more skeptical attitude.
 
supersonic89 said:
Exactly the same things that I look for. I hope clonazepam is different. The only thing I'm afraid of is behaving like a dumbass, because in the past I did a lot of stupid things under the influence of clonazepam. But it may have been that I was taking a lot of pills without tolerance. Also, as it takes a little longer to take effect than short acting benzos, so I took too much thinking that 0.5 or 1 mg it didn't work.
Honestly alprazolam did not help me too much for my social anxiety, even lorazepam helped me more. What a letdown was xanax. It also makes me sleep too much, more than 8 hours a day. I hate that. And just like alcohol, it make my appetite to skyrocket. I don't take it to get high now anyway, just for a bit of relaxation or anxiety-free when talking in public and as an anticonvulsant. In that sense I liked that when taking it siblingual, the effects are almost instantly.
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Give clonazepam an honest try without abusing it and it wont let you down. if you are benzo naive then 1 mg should be good. for someone without a tolerance 2 mg would be just at the point where their speech would start to become slurred and partial amnesia would start setting in. anything above 2 mg without a tolerance is asking for a blackout if you ask me. ofcourse everyone is different, I saw a girl who was prescribed 1 mg lorazepam as needed for anxiety, she only got 20 pills a month and never took more than 1 mg of lorazepam, but one time she had no lorazepam and she took 0.25 mg of clonazepam (half of a 0.5 mg tab) and she was obviously intoxicated on benzos, full on slurring her speech etc. she remembers the whole thing but she was very surprised at how much it impaired her.

so ya, Id say try 1 mg at most to start, it should be as good as a 1 mg dose of xanax but has more muscle relaxation and stuff, and i find its anti anxiety properties to be respectable
 
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