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@Jmoda , just to clarify, I certainly don't think that there is "one ecstasy supplier to rule them all" in some Lord of the Rings style fantasy struggle against good and evil. No.

I am just looking at what is available and seeing a lot of similarities. I doubt it is one supplier, but I would not be surprised if many listings share sources. Shit, I used to see more pill stamps and variety in my dealer's closet than what I see now.
 
I get my product locally, so I have never had to use the DNM's yet.
I'm just curious. Has anyone here EVER had success in finding legit MDMA from the DNM's?
Thanks
 
plenty of legit mdma on DNM but the supply here is usually imported or smuggled not from other DNM's. But there are many suppliers in holland and honestly you need to be careful because they just send out random quality like black mdma and that sort of things these people usually sell crack and heroin so don't give a fuck about mdma its just another drug to make money for them.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
plenty of legit mdma on DNM but the supply here is usually imported or smuggled not from other DNM's. But there are many suppliers in holland and honestly you need to be careful because they just send out random quality like black mdma and that sort of things these people usually sell crack and heroin so don't give a fuck about mdma its just another drug to make money for them.
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Yeah, I can imagine that happens a lot.
I prefer being able to do due diligence by buying locally.
I wouldn't mind checking out the DNM's though out of curiosity to see what kind of rare chems are out there.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
plenty of legit mdma on DNM
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I have these jurassic that you wrote about are very good, I don't know when I will test them because somehow after the last time with meh I feel aversion to mdma ...
I have a picture of them but I can't post it here (some error pops up)
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majk13 said:
I have these jurassic that you wrote about are very good, I don't know when I will test them because somehow after the last time with meh I feel aversion to mdma ...
I have a picture of them but I can't post it here (some error pops up)
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Do they have the mis-spelling on the stamp?
 
I keep saying the same stuff in this thread over and over.

Location matters.

Even here in Texas, Houston is a very different scene than Austin.

Online, Canada is very different from US, Europe is very different from Canada or US.

What is true for TripsitterNZ in New Zealand is not applicable to other distant parts of the world. If New Zealand was representative of the world at large, we would all be free from COVID-19 right now.
 
fasterfb said:
I get my product locally, so I have never had to use the DNM's yet.
I'm just curious. Has anyone here EVER had success in finding legit MDMA from the DNM's?
Thanks
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In my area everything comes in from the DNMs and has for a long time now.
 
indigoaura said:
@Jmoda , just to clarify, I certainly don't think that there is "one ecstasy supplier to rule them all" in some Lord of the Rings style fantasy struggle against good and evil. No.

I am just looking at what is available and seeing a lot of similarities. I doubt it is one supplier, but I would not be surprised if many listings share sources. Shit, I used to see more pill stamps and variety in my dealer's closet than what I see now.
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I agree here. I actually stated the same. I am sure many vendors have the same source. Im also convinced most the big producers are producing some mass bullshit. I guess LEO wins this round? Hopefully future generations of top chemists eventually step up...

Feels like there are always ebbs and flows. There were periods where methylone flooded the "molly" msrket, then there were mints and pokeballs for a good period for instance, and then one day gone. Im sure there will be a comeback at some point!


Would love if someone was saving a mint or pokeball. Could send it to le junk to see what he thinks. Maybe everyone should just send their product to le junk and he can be our report for if we have magic or not :p
 
most synthesis are producing a few hundred kg of mdma at a time in industrial scale labs. So one major product should have hundreds of kgs of product out there same with Meh?. Im sure a majorty of resellers probably don't care about quality and just want money we have trash resellers here just one look at the product and it looks fucked either black to cola and just not something right about it hell i even saw a pic of purple black mdma looked like a crystal you buy from one of those shops you buy tarot cards at. Be selective when buying things if it looks like trash thens it probably trash.
 
Jmoda said:
I agree here. I actually stated the same. I am sure many vendors have the same source. Im also convinced most the big producers are producing some mass bullshit. I guess LEO wins this round? Hopefully future generations of top chemists eventually step up...

Feels like there are always ebbs and flows. There were periods where methylone flooded the "molly" msrket, then there were mints and pokeballs for a good period for instance, and then one day gone. Im sure there will be a comeback at some point!


Would love if someone was saving a mint or pokeball. Could send it to le junk to see what he thinks. Maybe everyone should just send their product to le junk and he can be our report for if we have magic or not :p
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I tried saving some mints, I made it til 2015 where I couldn’t help but eat my last one. They were just too good :). That said, I feel the product I’ve been getting since then has been equally as good for the most part.

Haha Le Junk would be burnt out quick from this endeavor I’m sure.

-GC
 
Grind it down to 10 microns, supersaturate in EtOH / H20, add surfactant, make gel caps, and distribute. Worked for ritanovir (Norvir).
 
A comment on the dark net markets.

I think we have to be careful to talk about "the DNM". There is no "DNM". It's an ecosystem that is very, very diversified, and also locally very different. How me and my peers are using the darknet is very specific. We mostly only order domestically, and mostly only order from vendors that we know that are good and have reviews from elsewhere (<<mod edit>>some vendor<</mod edit>> is excellent in this regard for psychedelics). These vendors on these markets (which change all the time) are sometimes just normal dudes who just resell bulk orders from the Netherlands. But a couple of times I also found vendors who produce their products themselves (2C-B for example) and we had excellent communication and I ended up with some of the best products I have ever had. You find everything on the markets. It's a bazaar, a platform, a meeting place between buyers and sellers of all kind. If you look at the MDMA coming out of the Netherlands, and that is true, it is mostly cheap bulk "champagne" MDMA, in the form of "rocks". Which is sometimes decent, and sometimes good, but never stellar.

I'm always amazed at how I can source 100ug LSD tabs with 99% purity (lab-tested) for like 2-3$. MDMA is a bit of a different story though. While the wider community (again, <<mod edit>>some website<</mod edit>> is the place) seems to put a lot of effort to produce pure psychedelics, this does not seem to be the case for MDMA. I haven't been able to find a consistently good product which is produced with a little bit of love and a focus on quality. I would easily pay five times the street rate for such a product. The prices where I live (central Europe) are ridiculous these days, you can get your standard five grams 90% tested MDMA pure MDMA for like 80 bucks. I have once found a domestic seller who sold 95% pure white MDMA which was excellent. Never found him again though.

I have always wondered why there is no MDMA source for "premium" quality for a premium price around.

Edit: What I'm talking about can be seen in Hamiltons Pharmacopeia Season 2, Episode 6, "A Clandestine Chemist's Tale". The product looks super clean. It's a result of effort. Not suited for large scale production though. The episode is interesting to watch anyway. It's on Youtube.
 
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^manufacturers do not want to stand out from the crowd, drug crime services regularly test samples purchased by DM and on this basis create maps of the regions where these samples come from ...
 
you have to be in the know and setup your own contacts to hidden vendor shops where quality is something taken seriously and where those people have their lines into whatever country they are shipping to i.e it won't get picked up by customs pretty much top level syndicates where amounts start at a kg i have seen czech republic mafias trying to push their product out and wanting partners stuff seemed to be pretty good in the pics i assume someone took them up on the offer here because months later 98% mdma started arriving.
 
user666 said:
Yes, that is not full pupil dilation.
Full Mydriasis looks like this:

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In the photo above, when you divide the Inner Diameter (I.D.) by the Outer Diameter (O.D.), you get 0.823

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However, when you divide the Inner Diameter (I.D.) by the Outer Diameter (O.D.) in your eye, you get 0.455, ...which is much less than the full Mydriasis depicted in the first photo.

People who do not want to post photos of their eyes publicly (which I understand), should at least post the I.D. divided by the O.D.
In the examples above, I made these measurements in the vertical and horizontal directions so it is easier to understand, but to be more accurate both of these measurements should be made in the horizontal direction, in order to make them immune to any optical distortions.

Such measurements would constitute quantifiable data if the ambient lighting conditions were controlled for. Practically, that would mean standing in front of your illuminated shaving/makeup mirror for 3min, before taking the photo ...and if you used a luxmeter, that would be a cherry on top.
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Yep, the top photo is exactly what my pupils look like every time I do my MDMA. Every single time without fail. If the pupils do not look like this, the MDMA you’re doing is modern day MehDMA. You will want to file for a refund at that point :)
 
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