Social Justice Jacob Blake shot seven times by white cop, paralyzed, may never walk again.

[mal3volent]

Why are you still in major denial that Jacob Blake is a criminal and sexual abuser/predator? I thought we are supposed to 'believe all wimin!'. This is not a false rape accusation, conspiracy, etc. Jacob Blake raped or sexually abused/assaulted some girl or woman. He also had broken into homes, attacked people, and police, just like George Floyd, and both of them are or were horrible people despite what the media claims.

Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that a persons criminal record does not justify a cop shooting them seven times in the back?

 

[Jabberwocky]

South Africa is very bad for Europeans. If the racist idiot psychopathic blacks murder and steal more farms people will starve like in neighbouring Zimbabwe, where European farmers were murdered, had their land and livestock stolen, and the blacks who stole the land, livestock, etc. know nothing about farming, growing vegetables, grains, fruit, or raising livestock.

Yeah. Rhodesia is one of the best examples of communism out there. It demonstrates what happens when you try to take from the "privileged" and give to the "oppressed":
Try putting some blue collar worker as the CEO of Amazon and you'll have similar results.
Funny thing about Rhodesia is that entire west was advocating for the whites to give up their power.
Sad thing is that it lead to worse quality of life for everyone.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that a persons criminal record does not justify a cop shooting them seven times in the back?

Nobody, including me, has said that he should have been shot seven times in the back. Jacob Blake is an idiot for carrying a weapon as someone else posted previously, having a knife or weapon in his vehicle he was going for, and resisting arrest knowing he was being served with an arrest warrant for rape or sexual assault. But I am sure someone will blame it on the myths of 'systemic or institutional racism' 'racist police', etc. 8)

 

[Jabberwocky]

@mal3volent
I thought you'd find this interesting.
Found this on a forum.
Many claims here about him having the gun illegally.

Kyle broke no laws under Wisconsin state statutes, he is completely innocent.

1. HE WAS IN LEGAL POSSESSION OF THE FIREARM HE USED

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.60

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

>"Furthermore, minors that are 16 years of age or older can openly carry long guns, provided they are not considered "short-barreled rifles" or "short-barreled shotguns" and are not otherwise prohibited from possession of firearms. A license is not required unless in a taxpayer-owned building or within 1000 feet of school property and not on private property."

2. WISCONSIN IS NOT A STAND YOUR GROUND STATE, BUT HE EXERCISED HIS DUTY TO RETREAT BEFORE RESORTING TO LETHAL FORCE, WHICH MAKES BOTH SHOOTINGS LEGAL

Wisconsin Legislature: 939.48

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

3. THERE WAS NO PREMEDITATION, AND HE DID NOT CROSS STATE LINES TO ATTEND THE PROTESTS. HE IS EMPLOYED AS AN ATTENDANT AT THE GAS STATION HE WAS PROTECTING. HE WAS ALSO INVITED TO CLEAN UP GRAFFITI AFTER WORK

Kyle Rittenhouse Defended Himself, ‘Did Nothing Wrong,' Attorney Says

The attorneys representing Kyle Rittenhouse, the Antioch 17-year-old charged with the shooting deaths of two protesters in Kenosha, released a statement Friday night, saying the teen “did nothing wrong” and acted in self-defense. Earlier in the day, a judge agreed to delay for a month a decision...

www.nbcchicago.com

4. CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE TO PROVE THE RIOTERS SINGLED OUT KYLE BECAUSE HE PUT OUT ONE OF THEIR DUMPSTER FIRES

New Video Shows Kyle Rittenhouse Running to Put Out a Literal Dumpster Fire Before He Was Attacked

Newly uncovered footage shows Kyle Rittenhouse rushing with a fire extinguisher to put out a dumpster that the rioters had set ablaze. This is yet another tidbit destroying the left’s narrative that Rittenhouse had “crossed state lines to kill protesters.” Newly uncovered footage shows Kyle...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[mal3volent]

Nobody, including me, has said that he should have been shot seven times in the back. Jacob Blake is an idiot for carrying a weapon as someone else posted previously, having a knife or weapon in his vehicle he was going for, and resisting arrest knowing he was being served with an arrest warrant for rape or sexual assault. But I am sure someone will blame it on the myths of 'systemic or institutional racism' 'racist police', etc. 8)

Lol, you don't even know the basic facts of what happened. He wasn't being "served with a warrant". Also, no one knows that he was going for the knife. First, he supposedly had it in his hand , then he was reaching for it under his seat. The stories keep changing.

 

[mal3volent]

@mal3volent
I thought you'd find this interesting.
Found this on a forum.
Many claims here about him having the gun illegally.

If you've noticed I've been pretty consist that my issue is with the cops and how they treat/respond to people differently based on race. One is perceived automatically as a threat, the other is presumed innocent left to walk free. Not just this case but in general, cops think they have the right to take another's life for no good reason when there are other options available. Then you go to Bluelight and social media and you see people sprinting to find criminal records . As if that has anything to do with the event in question or the role of police in our society.

Anything bad I've said about Rittenhouse was mostly in jest, imitating the tactics I've seen employed against Jacob Blake , George Floyd, etc.

 

[Jabberwocky]

If you've noticed I've been pretty consist that my issue is with the cops and how they treat/respond to people differently based on race. One is perceived automatically as a threat, the other is presumed innocent left to walk free. Not just this case but in general, cops think they have the right to take another's life for no good reason when there are other options available. Then you go to Bluelight and social media and you see people sprinting to find criminal records . As if that has anything to do with the event in question or the role of police in our society.

Anything bad I've said about Rittenhouse was mostly in jest, imitating the tactics I've seen employed against Jacob Blake , George Floyd, etc.

I do agree that criminal record isn't a cause for cops to treat you worse.
They're things you've suffered consequences from already and shouldn't affect your life in the future.
But how were the cops supposed to act? There's a guy in the house of somebody who is testifying against them in court for rape.
If I go to somebody's house who's testifying against me, it is pretty fucking clear what I'm doing there.
He wasn't supposed to be there and if he was just going for a visit, why the fuck he would act in a way he did?
It's pretty clear that there was something shady going on.
There might have been individual cases of prejudice, but it's nothing too big to be seen on statistics.

 

[w01fg4ng]

I do agree that criminal record isn't a cause for cops to treat you worse.
They're things you've suffered consequences from already and shouldn't affect your life in the future.
But how were the cops supposed to act? There's a guy in the house of somebody who is testifying against them in court for rape.
If I go to somebody's house who's testifying against me, it is pretty fucking clear what I'm doing there.
He wasn't supposed to be there and if he was just going for a visit, why the fuck he would act in a way he did?
It's pretty clear that there was something shady going on.
There might have been individual cases of prejudice, but it's nothing too big to be seen on statistics.

In the states we occasionally get called up by our government to perform civic duties such as appearing as a juror in court. There is a process to becoming a public juror, however. This process involves being 100% objective to a situation and many people often times will fail to meet the requirement and are asked to leave. Jury duty is very boring often times people intentionally say the things you say just to be removed of their public responsibility.

 

[Jabberwocky]

In the states we occasionally get called up by our government to perform civic duties such as appearing as a juror in court. There is a process to becoming a public juror, however. This process involves being 100% objective to a situation and many people often times will fail to meet the requirement and are asked to leave. Jury duty is very boring often times people intentionally say the things you say just to be removed of their public responsibility.

Yeah, I know how it works.
Too many documentaries about you guys, so it's hard not to know.

 

[G_Chem]

Why are you still in major denial that Jacob Blake is a criminal and sexual abuser/predator? I thought we are supposed to 'believe all wimin!'. This is not a false rape accusation, conspiracy, etc. Jacob Blake raped or sexually abused/assaulted some girl or woman. He also had broken into homes, attacked people, and police, just like George Floyd, and both of them are or were horrible people despite what the media claims.

His response showed no denial. Just a desire for a system where we are actually given due process.. The facts are, many people get shot dead black and white (more black proportionally) before they are ever given this chance.

It’s becoming pretty obvious to me though that I’m just wasting time on trolls who live in other countries with nothing better to do than get into our business. So I bid a farewell..

-GC

 

[mal3volent]

Yeah, I know how it works.
Too many documentaries about you guys, so it's hard not to know.

no one is making you watch them. I thought you loved America and the west ?

 

[Jabberwocky]

no one is making you watch them. I thought you loved America and the west ?

Umm what?
I enjoy watching American documentaries, they're really well made usually.
My point was not to attack anything, maybe it was hard to understand from the way I phased it.
I apologize if I've caused some misunderstandings.
I like ideals of Americanism, but I doubt I would like to live in the US.
West is a pretty broad concept, so it's hard to say that I love the west.
There are parts of western culture I don't like too, like there are parts of other cultures.
I respect western civilization and like it, but I respect many other civilizations too.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Just like George Floyd, Jacob Blake is a 'gentle giant', 'family man', and a 'wonderful caring person!' 8) /sarcasm

Why do you think the media / society wants justice so badly/readily for people who are not upstanding members of society, given that there are many people like Breonna Taylor who were upstanding members of society who need this justice?

 

[TheLoveBandit]

 

[Deru]

I'm watching the official live news conference right now, and the Sheriff just alluded to the fact a lot of the information coming out is inaccurate. He really doesn't seem to make smart comments, or at least very ambiguous, during these conferences sometimes, at least from the perspective of acting in an official capacity with great focus and scrutiny of these incidents. Was this directed at social media, the media or even at the official reports - I can't tell. There's a lot of words he speaks with literally no actual information revealed.

He was asked about Trump coming to Kenosha, and he grinned and smiled and said "hopefully he'll be safe here if he comes, that's our goal, " as he slightly rolled his eyes. I dislike Trump greatly, but such an odd thing to hear from a Sheriff.

Governor Evers and the mayor of Kenosha have both asked Trump not to come, so that's why the questions are being asked, for context.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

@PriestTheyCalledHim

Bringing Up ‘Black on Black Crime’ Is Racist

This tired idea makes the wrongful connection between Blackness and criminality

level.medium.com

First, thanks for the link (and the violence map one). I consider the read as time well spent. Though, there are a few confusing points put forth in it:

The implication of the “Black on Black violence” rhetoric places personal responsibility for solving long-standing systemic issues at the feet of communities affected by them. It asks everyday citizens (who have an iota of the resources the state has) to fix issues that should be addressed with policy. It assumes that the solution is having the majority of Black people police their communities instead of putting officers in jail when they commit murder. And it makes the wrongful connection between Blackness and criminality.

The author misses the point of personal, and communal, accountability. The finger pointed at black on black crime isn't to a race as a whole - the majority of blacks aren't committing crimes, on anyone. It is to do with individuals who make the choice to commit such crimes (against anyone, but upon other blacks is likely convenience of proximity more than anything else). It is also to do with communities that no longer teach young men to be fathers for their children; a problem that has also been growing among whites for decades but is more pronounced or visible among young black men.

I get that this then extends to the 'system', with the cycle of poverty and other factors that limit a young black person's opportunities unfairly = they may not have the options for success, the mentors for proper fatherhood or leadership, the other factors that enable others to break from their situation and rise. I won't deny those limitations exist. I would argue they exist for anyone in that cycle, regardless of skin color, ethnic origin, or beliefs; and I'd admit it most largely populated with blacks.

It's easy for me, being a white male, who had a father in his life, and has had a better environment for development and success, to point to the bootstrap attitude. I had someone buy me the boots, teach me how to wear them, and strap them up for me I had other show me how to wear them, to walk, and eventually run in them; and to catch me when I stumbled, to pick me back up to try again. I haven't been in that cycle, to be trapped without hope.

But to ignore the responsibility and the accountability of the individual totally is also incomplete. One can't just claim 'system racism' and the man is holding me down. There are people who survive and achieve success despite coming from that cycle. And what used to be traditional strongholds for support (family, church) can regain the strength they once provided, if the individual wishes to lean on them and the community makes those a priority to put support into. The individual is only as alone as they choose to be, there is always someone willing to lend a hand.

We would be hard-pressed to find a time in modern American history when the masses of Black people haven’t clearly expressed exactly what they need to improve their communities. Yet too often, we’ve been handed more police.

And the author fails to provide those 'clearly expressed' needs. There is a recurring theme in the article to indicate police brutality is 100% always in effect, therefore the black community cannot expect help from them, only more abuse. This is simply not the case. Does it exist? Yes. 100% always in effect? No. Not anywhere. Moreover, aside from a police force that remains friendly and fair, what 'needs' are so clearly obvious, to be addressed by policy (per the author)? If someone outlined actual needs that aren't etheral but are concrete, achievable with definitive outcomes, America as a whole would be behind ensuring those needs are met. And yet, having read the article, I still don't know what those might be.

 

[Deru]

The individual is only as alone as they choose to be, there is always someone willing to lend a hand.

I agree with just about everything you said, except this. What happens when the individuals in these communities don't have someone willing to lend a hand, or the people who are willing to lend a hand don't have sufficient resources to provide any notable help?

If someone outlined actual needs that aren't etheral but are concrete, achievable with definitive outcomes, America as a whole would be behind ensuring those needs are met. And yet, having read the article, I still don't know what those might be.

I don't think many individuals, do, honestly. That's where these events spurring the conversations and discussions, as a collective whole, is essential. And with that will come scrutiny of where we are currently, and that's where things will become difficult. We have to address where we are now, why we are there, in order to accurately decide where we need to be and how to achieve it.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

Mapping Police Violence

Law enforcement agencies across the country are failing to provide us with even basic information about the lives they take. So we collect the data ourselves.

mappingpoliceviolence.org

Also @TheLoveBandit because you asked me to provide you with numbers in a similar topic..

Wow. Quick glance gives the impression it has some great data and is very user friendly. I'll dive into it a bit more when I get a little more time. Thanks!

 

[TheLoveBandit]

I agree with just about everything you said, except this. What happens when the individuals in these communities don't have someone willing to lend a hand, or the people who are willing to lend a hand don't have sufficient resources to provide any notable help?

Show me one community anywhere in the world where there isn't someone willing to help. Anywhere. There will always be kind hearted people, some even organized into an outfit like <insert charity name> willing to help beyond their locale (doctors without borders, Unicef, Red Cross, etc). Even on a personal level, people will be willing to help others despite the personal dangers they may face themselves in that environment (Anne Frank, Underground Railroad, etc). Help exists. It may not be that visible, but it exists.

As to having sufficient resources...that's a possibility. But everything starts with a willingness to help, which I'd argue exists everywhere (hell, I just did!). Next comes 'how much can they help', which in turn may reach out to others who can help more. But even the little they have to offer is more than that individual had to begin with = that alone can provide hope.

 

[Deru]

Help exists. It may not be that visible, but it exists.

Fair enough. My post should have read:

What happens when the individuals in these communities don't have someone willing to lend a hand [that are easily identifiable to the majority of individuals in need], or the people who are willing to lend a hand don't have sufficient resources to provide any notable help?

The argument some people do make it out is testament to the fact help does, in fact, exist. The problem becomes it's typically not sufficient to help the majority in these communities, which is why people making it out are the exception rather than the rule (in poor, inner city communities, specifically.). And, I always go back to this, it would take an insane amount of help if it's constantly fighting to overcome systemic flaws, to begin with.

I've found out in my own life, sometimes the help that is available is very difficult to figure out how to:

a. Identify who or where the help is offered.
b. Properly apply for said help.

It can be an incredibly overwhelming and confusing system, and can easily seem like to some that there is no help available.