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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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Not really, no. I was trying to say exactly what I said.

What you're saying is PC bullshit nonsense because you're scared of saying the obvious.

This new rule is directly related to innocent black people being mistaken for suspects who commit crime. Or am I completely crazy?

I don't get the mental stretch needed to blame this on systemic racism which is code for "white people".
 
What you're saying is PC bullshit nonsense because you're scared of saying the obvious.

This new rule is directly related to innocent black people being mistaken for suspects who commit crime. Or am I completely crazy?

I don't get the mental stretch needed to blame this on systemic racism which is code for "white people".

Yes, okay we agree, it is a rule related to innocent black people being mistaken for suspects who commit crime. Yes, this is exactly my point. I didn't say anything about white people. I'm not complaining about the law. I'm saying that people judging someone purely because of the color of their skin is the reason this law exists. If people, or a large enough percentage of the people, didn't see a black person in a mask - at a time when everyone is wearing masks - as automatically being a dangerous criminal, they wouldn't have had to make an exception to the law. If that's not racism, then what is? It's an example of something black people (and often hispanic people too) have had to face for a long time that other races do not, at least not in America.
 
I don’t know why you bite the bait.

That law seems a bit odd to me, but I’m not surprised the article was published in The New York Post.

*shrug*
 
Yes, okay we agree, it is a rule related to innocent black people being mistaken for suspects who commit crime. Yes, this is exactly my point. I didn't say anything about white people. I'm not complaining about the law. I'm saying that people judging someone purely because of the color of their skin is the reason this law exists. If people, or a large enough percentage of the people, didn't see a black person in a mask - at a time when everyone is wearing masks - as automatically being a dangerous criminal, they wouldn't have had to make an exception to the law. If that's not racism, then what is? It's an example of something black people (and often hispanic people too) have had to face for a long time that other races do not, at least not in America.
Who's to say that a large percentage of people find blacks wearing masks to be dangerous? Was there a poll asking the locals of their opinion? Was this voted on or did some lawmaker just throw this on the end of the bill? These are the types of questions that I ask myself. I feel as if conclusions are being jumped to without any concrete information, at least in this case.

One could also argue that it's racist in itself to make exceptions of rules based on your skin color. And Is racism now a bigger concern than the health crisis we are currently in? If we aren't all wearing masks, then what is the point?

I didn't want to comment on this at first, but the whole thing just stinks and I wouldn't take it for face value.
 
I agree, we should be more concerned about getting through this pandemic.

I live and work in a pretty diverse area, and seeing anyone with a mask on is a bit disquieting. I often feel like I am trapped in a dystopian dream that I can not wake up from.

These are very strange times to be living through.
 
Global cases just surpassed 10 million, and the global rate of infection is higher than it's ever been and continues to increase. One positive is that it seems to be spreading in younger populations than previously and the global death rate is not increasing along with the number of cases and is lower than it was in April.
 
If people, or a large enough percentage of the people, didn't see a black person in a mask - at a time when everyone is wearing masks - as automatically being a dangerous criminal, they wouldn't have had to make an exception to the law. If that's not racism, then what is? It's an example of something black people (and often hispanic people too) have had to face for a long time that other races do not, at least not in America.
So you blame people for feeling a certain way based on experience? If you consider that racism, then what's the cause of that racism? Shouldn't we be blaming the segment of black people who regularly cover their faces and commit crimes? If there was a large amount of white rednecks wearing masks and committing violent crime then more people would be automatically scared of white rednecks in masks.
Also what does identity politics have to due with safeguarding the spread of a dangerous, deadly virus? It's funny how we're seeing increasing examples of woke-ness apparently being an antidote and protection from the virus.

I don’t know why you bite the bait.
Funny how a coherent argument is "bait" to Leftists.

That law seems a bit odd to me, but I’m not surprised the article was published in The New York Post.
Seems you agree the New York Post publishes accurate articles not covered by many other sources.

These are very strange times to be living through.
I agree, and especially if one were to be believing lies.
 
The Media is Lying About the ‘Second Wave’

Ron Paul said:
For months, the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media kept a morbid Covid-19 “death count” on their front pages and at the top of their news broadcasts. The coronavirus outbreak was all about the number of dead. The narrative was intended to boost governors like Cuomo in New York and Whitmer in Michigan, who turned their states authoritarian under the false notion that destroying people’s jobs, freedom, and lives would somehow keep a virus from doing what viruses always do: spread through a population until eventually losing strength and dying out.

The “death count” was always the headline.

But then all of a sudden early in June the mainstream media did a George Orwell and lectured us that it is all about “cases” and has always been all about “cases.” Death, and especially infection fatality rate, were irrelevant. Why? Because from the peak in April, deaths had decreased by 90 percent and were continuing to crash.
That was not terrifying enough so the media pretended this good news did not exist.

With massive increases in testing, the “case” numbers climbed. This is not rocket science: the more people you test the more “cases” you discover.

Unfortunately our mainstream media is only interested in pushing the “party line.” So the good news that millions more have been exposed while the fatality rate continues to decline - meaning the virus is getting weaker - is buried under hysterical false reporting of “new cases.”

Unfortunately many governors, including our own here in Texas, are incapable of resisting the endless lies of the mainstream media. They are putting Americans again through the nightmare of forced business closures, mandated face masks, and restrictions of Constitutional liberties based on false propaganda.

In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”

In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases.

Let’s go back to the original measurements used to scare Americans into giving up their Constitutional liberties: the daily death numbers. Even though we know hospitals have falsely attributed countless deaths to “Covid-19” that were deaths WITH instead of FROM the virus, we are seeing actual deaths steadily declining over the past month and a half. Declining deaths are not a great way to push the “second wave” propaganda, so the media and politicians have moved the goal posts and decided that only “cases” are important. It’s another big lie.

Resist propaganda and defend your liberty. That is the only way we’ll get through this.
 
As many as 20 million in U.S. have had COVID-19, officials say — 10 times more than previously thought


This is good news @JGrimez, if you dig into the article.

Have at it guy. :)
 
^good news.
End the lockdowns,

We've all heard of the idea of weaponizing a biological agent, like a virus, But governments have gone one step further and used a biological agent as a psychological weapon.
 
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Nice to know your govt values your tax $$$

The coronavirus R value in London could be as high as 1.1, latest figures show as the capital prepares to further ease lockdown measures on 'Super Saturday'.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-coronavirus-r-value-above-1-a4488566.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-coronavirus-r-rate-creeps-22297302

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/12/r-rate-rises-1-parts-country-12844712/

Legislation ensuring Leicester's local lockdown can be enforced by law has been rushed through Parliament. The new regulations come into force on Saturday, as the rest of the country begins to see an easing of lockdown.

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From tomorrow, pubs, restaurants, cafes, and hotels will be allowed to reopen. The government said pubs will open from 6am, in an effort to avoid them opening just after midnight.

Next week, the UK government will relax rules that forced all arriving travellers to quarantine for two weeks. Instead, the United Kingdom will introduce a traffic light system, with countries grouped together based on their coronavirus infection rates.
It is a move that could throw a lifeline to Europe's tourism industry.

Seems the travel, tourism and hospitality finally got their way. What's the point of staying alive and healthy if your not enriching someone or contributing to the treasury and economy at large?
 
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