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We are ALL God.

empeebee said:
Wasn't aware I was being attacked or that my previous statement implied I was looking to be proved wrong, thus understood that I don't feel attacked. Besides which, what's the point of an attack? I fully agree that the term "God" is overused and that 'universal consciousness' is more applicable. We are all part of a universal consciousness as sentient beings and that these meatsacks that our consciousness currently inhabit have a shelf life . May the force be with you.
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Ok... I was referring to OP obviously. I believe in discourse. If someone asserts what I believe to be a falsehood as a fact, I will challenge them on it.
 
But belief requires faith. Faith is not necessarily related to indisputable fact. We should be arguing fact, not faith.
 
I was thankfully taught this in college when I studied Vedic literature and The United Field. 5 years later and I’m started to ACTUALLY FEEL IT! It’s so wild when you realize how powerful your thoughts are. No one can tell you. You have to know it for yourself.
 
Bonch said:
I was thankfully taught this in college when I studied Vedic literature and The United Field. 5 years later and I’m started to ACTUALLY FEEL IT! It’s so wild when you realize how powerful your thoughts are. No one can tell you. You have to know it for yourself.
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Your college taught you that everything is god? Seems like an odd thing for an institution of higher learning.
 
mp44god said:
Instead of the word "God" why not just say we are all one "universal consciousness"? The term God refers to a spritual creator of the universe. It's annoying when people try to redefine "God" in cringy new-age terms. If you can't handle someone attacking your argument, then don't present it like someone needs to prove you wrong.
I believe Adolph Hitler is this cup of Earl Grey tea im sipping, this tea is delicious, therefore Adolph Hitler = Good.
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Rather than "universal consciousness" being a redefinition of the word "God", I would argue that a definition as vague as "spiritual creator of the universe" necessarily includes within it the fact that this "spiritual creator" is also a "universal consciousness".

I will grant that there are some definitions of god which would probably invalidate the idea that "we are all God", one of them being a beardy robed guy living in the clouds who is personally insulted when humans choose not to pray, or to attend church, or wear a burqa, or mutilate their child's genitalia, or practice whatever other nonsensical religious dogma has wormed it's way into accepted cultural practice over the course of human history.

Even then however - I would argue that most of the time, even for those who are absurdly traditionally religious, such arbitrary behavioural prescriptions are actually of secondary importance to the idea of god as an omnipotent creator of the universe - and if they thought about it a little more (or had been given the tools to do so), free from the crushing pressure of cultural indoctrination (itself of course an unrealistic expectation in many cases) - they would eventually have no choice but to reject whatever strange secondary quirks had become part of the primary definition, in favour of a more cringy new-age definition, as you put it.
 
I thought it was fairly clear the sort of religious belief I was referring to from the examples I gave of behaviours with their origins in religious dogma... no?

If not - I'm not necessarily referring to any one religion, moreso a specific kind of religious belief.

It's possible for 2 adherents of the same religion on paper to follow the thread of religious belief to quite different levels of absurdity, for example.

Although for sure, one could make a case that certain religions are more or less likely to induce absurd behaviour. The big 3 Abrahamics have all lead to varying levels of insanity in the past, although the relative peaks of this absurdity have come at different times, there's one in particular that is visibly more absurd in certain parts of the world right now. I would say Christianity seems to have peaked in absurdity and modern iterations (for the most part) are fairly sanitised and not incompatible with secularism. The scale of absurdity has peaks and troughs all over the place though, obviously certain lesser known tribal religions seem to induce certain kinds of absurd barbarism that the Abrahamics never did - for example those that promote Female Genital Mutilation. Obviously Judaism has a form of "MGM" but this seems to be somewhat lower on the scale... but again, it's quite possible for any adherent of any religion to lean pretty far into the absurd, I'm sure, and I'm not really trying to make any argument that any religion is better or worse than any other in this regard. They're all different, and are all interpreted in a multitude of different ways.
 
Post deleted and put into the correct thread - I'm shit at multi-thread-responding. Sorry <facepalm>.
 
mp44god said:
Your college taught you that everything is god? Seems like an odd thing for an institution of higher learning.
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I had the privilege of attending Maharishi International University! 🥳👍👽 Honestly one of the best things to ever happen to me. (Besides meeting a girl there and moving to the Big Island of Hawaii and living in a hammock with her for a year working on farms and hitch hiking)
 
SnafuInTheVoid said:
Every single human, animal or insect on this planet is all part of God.

LIFE is God.

Consciousness is God.

God is omnipresent and God is everywhere, everything and everyone.

God has no name and our simple monkey brains cannot comprehend what he/she is.

Prove me wrong.

*sips my coffee mug*
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This is precisely what I believe. We are all "god", we are all the same experiencer, there is one experiencer and it is the universe itself. We are one of an infinite number of the universe experiencing itself under a specific set of dimensional constraints. Existence is a dream we are having to escape the absolute isolation of experiencing ourselves as a dimensionless point all alone in the void. The cosmic joke is that so many of us seek oblivion, when the point of life is to escape oblivion.
 
Xorkoth said:
This is precisely what I believe. We are all "god", we are all the same experiencer, there is one experiencer and it is the universe itself. We are one of an infinite number of the universe experiencing itself under a specific set of dimensional constraints. Existence is a dream we are having to escape the absolute isolation of experiencing ourselves as a dimensionless point all alone in the void. The cosmic joke is that so many of us seek oblivion, when the point of life is to escape oblivion.
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Why not refer to that as a "Hive Mind" or "Universal Consciousness"? Why the term "god"?
 
@mp44god, do you have an opinion about my own opinion in response to that, expressed a few posts above, that the definition of god necessarily actually includes within it terms like those you mention?
 
Vastness said:
@mp44god, do you have an opinion about my own opinion in response to that, expressed a few posts above, that the definition of god necessarily actually includes within it terms like those you mention?
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The term god does not have anything to do with a the terminology I used. The response you posted was unintelligible gibberish. You can try to redefine words to support your philosophy that "god is consciousness" but that's just going down an existentialist rabbit hole that leads nowhere.
 
If God is being used theologically there isn't much argument to make, whatever religion will define God for the purpose of its own theology. In that context belief means a belief system and does not mean proof with scientific certainty. Those are two different things. I assume that if God is being used in the philosophical context it would also be a defined term.
 
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