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Social Justice Here we go again: Killing of Rayshard Brooks by Atlanta police

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Surveillance video released of fatal Atlanta shooting, police chief steps down

New surveillance video has been released of the moment Atlanta police fatally shot 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks in the parking lot of a Wendy's restaurant. Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields steps down as Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms calls for the termination of the officer involved in the incident.
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Protesters gather in Atlanta after police fatally shot a man outside a fast food restaurant

Protesters have gathered in Atlanta after a 27-year-old Black man was fatally shot by police officers Friday night outside of a fast food restaurant.
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I cannot fucking believe we're back here. He was asleep in the parking lot, leading to the police being called. Granted, there was a struggle between Rayshard and police over a taser, but that is not an acceptable reason to kill a man. When will these atrocities stop???
 
Shrooms00087 said:
Isn't that the one where he turned around and pointed something at them? Even in a game of charades with the police I wouldn't point so much as a pinky at them.
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Anonymous Dissident said:
It was a taser he pointed back at the police. He took it off of one of the cops, so they knew there was no mortal danger...
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Shrooms00087 said:
Oh shoo *wipes brow* I thought he was like a dangerous criminal that takes weapons off officers and then points it at them.

They'll shoot you if you have a weapon that provides any competitive advantage over an officer. Stun him. Get his gun. Nope. He's dead, Jim.
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jackie jones said:
I would have loved to see that pig caught in the gizzard with that tazer.

In the end, it was not a deadly weapon, and they responded with one.
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Exactly!!

Edit: the cop responsible for the shooting has just been terminated from the Atlanta police
 
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jackie jones said:
In the end, it was not a deadly weapon, and they responded with one.
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I could swear that I've heard over and over in the past that tasers are dangerous weapons that can kill people... when it's the cops using them.

Don't misunderstand, I agree with you, and I don't believe the police had any right to shoot this guy, I just can't help but feel this small sense of hypocrisy. Not from anyone in particular, but just in how a taser is suddenly perfectly safe now, and extremely dangerous in previous discussions.
 
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JessFR said:
I could swear that I've heard over and over in the past that teasers are dangerous weapons that can kill people... when it's the cops using them.

Don't misunderstand, I agree with you, and I don't believe the police had any right to shoot this guy, I just can't help but feel this small sense of hypocrisy. Not from anyone in particular, but just in how a taser is suddenly perfectly safe now, and extremely dangerous in previous discussions.
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I think, given the current circumstances, the violence of police towards protesters along with the momentum and enthusiasm (and the timing! Early summer before the possible re-election of the most corrupt administration in US history), that a bit of hypocrisy is acceptable. Flower Power did not work for a now obvious reason. They are taking the system by the throat. Rightfully.

The 22-year-old hippie college student in me, who could find nothing to fight for, is screaming for me to get my ass moving. My 37-year-old apathetic self is beginning to stir. I have to get involved or I will regret it. I do not think I can handle any more regret.
 
If this is the incident then that guy deserved to be shot.
Fighting with police these days is basically suicide by cop.



You might say that a taser is a non-lethal weapon. However if you taser and incapacitate a cop then you would be able to grab their gun and execute the officer so they have to view it that way. How are they to assume that a suspect just wants to tase them and not kill them?
 
Oh so now every cop that shoots a black man in self defense is going to be sacked and have protests made about black rights

Fucksake people I'm not racist but this is fucked up, he was asking for trouble taking a tazer off a cop he could of took his gun too, he could of been off his face on anything, being that strong and overpowering a cop, you've all heard the story's about people having crazy strength on certain drugs like bath salts and Flakka and shit

Cops have guns for this very reason, if you don't want shot don't mess with a cop
 
Flower Fairy said:
Oh so now every cop that shoots a black man in self defense is going to be sacked and have protests made about black rights

Fucksake people I'm not racist but this is fucked up, he was asking for trouble taking a tazer off a cop he could of took his gun too, he could of been off his face on anything, being that strong and overpowering a cop, you've all heard the story's about people having crazy strength on certain drugs like bath salts and Flakka and shit

Cops have guns for this very reason, if you don't want shot don't mess with a cop
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Wtf?

I shouldn't have to treat cops like they're a crazed dog right on the edge of attacking someone at all times. They should he held to a higher standard.

He was running away when he was shot. I can't see how he posed such a danger to the cops in that moment as to warrant lethal force.

Sure, what he did was damn stupid, that's true. But again the point is that we shouldn't have to treat the cops as so out of control that they might shoot you for the slightest act of defiance.

There are instances where I've argued in favor of the cops using lethal force, but I'm not seeing it in this instance. He didn't have a lethal weapon, he was attempting to escape. That is not cause for lethal force.
 
Cops in America have guns so do as they bloody say and don't piss them off as its not the first time a cop has killed someone is it

Pissing off a cop is asking for trouble

Yes they shouldn't point and shoot for no reason, but if he's felt in danger then he's going to shoot his gun isn't he

If this bloke hadn't of done what he did he'd still be alive

Was the cop wrong yeah, but he's the one with a gun so I'd bloody listen wouldn't you?
 
Flower Fairy said:
Cops in America have guns so do as they bloody say and don't piss them off as its not the first time a cop has killed someone is it

Pissing off a cop is asking for trouble

Yes they shouldn't point and shoot for no reason, but if he's felt in danger then he's going to shoot his gun isn't he

If this bloke hadn't of done what he did he'd still be alive

Was the cop wrong yeah, but he's the one with a gun so I'd bloody listen wouldn't you?
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Well.. Sure....

But what you should do as a smart course of action, and what you morally should have to do are different things.

This guy may have been stupid, but he didn't deserve to die for it.
 
JessFR said:
This guy may have been stupid, but he didn't deserve to die for it
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No he didn't, definitely not, nor did that white fat bloke who was schizophrenic and off his meds, he took cocaine and then called the cops for help, and the cops knelt on him for as so long, making jokes and then saying he's asleep but he was dead they killed him, but you don't hear many story's about stuff like that, then a black bloke doing wrong gets killed and there's uproar, yet a white bloke off his meds, admitted doing coke, wanted help, begged for help from cops and gets fucking killed and laughed at by them

Just avoid the cops, they have to much power and people should realise that before acting out and hoping not to be killed, its the same story over and over again, nothings changing, sad to say these deaths will be forgotten about in a few months, till it happens again and there's more protests

Its a cycle it's just on repeat, nothings changing
 
People always say "nothing will ever change".

Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but it's been my observation, that things DO in fact change, often abruptly, and when they do all those people who previously said it would never happen realize it was actually inevitable.

"there will never be a black president"
"Marijuana will never be legal in this country"
"same sex marriage will never happen".

It'll never happen, till it happens.
 
Exactly, there are good cops out there, but also many many bad actors.

One thing for sure, anyone pointing a gun at a cop will get shot, no matter what color his skin. Not saying this is good, but that's the way the world works right now.
 
White_Rose said:
Exactly, there are good cops out there, but also many many bad actors.

One thing for sure, anyone pointing a gun at a cop will get shot, no matter what color his skin. Not saying this is good, but that's the way the world works right now.
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Problem is that he didn't point a gun at the cops. He pointed a taser. And the cops knew it was a taser. Near as I can tell it might even have been an already discharged taser.

If it had been a gun I'd be defending the cops, if it could reasonably have been believed to be a gun I'd probably be defending them.

But I'm just not seeing how, with what we know about what happened, unless we are somehow missing something, the cops could reasonably have felt they were in sufficient danger to justify lethal force.
 
I'm not defending the cops, bro.

If I tell you don't jump off cliffs because you'll get hurt, am I defending cliffs?

I'm saying I'm sure if I would take a cop's taser then point it at him, I'd most likely be dead, too. Fact of life, cops have too much power.

I try not to give them an opportunity to wield that power was my message.
 
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