Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

[JGrimez]

I agree. Our government lead by DJT and the Republican Congress is very scary. Bailed out big business and gave crumbs to regular folks. Denied a second payment...

Not him. The shadow government, the ones who never leave and aren't voted in, who direct agendas over decades or generations. There are some issues that Dems & Reps don't ever fight over. Worry about those.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

I should note that the author of the above isn't (to my knowlwdge) a doctor or a researcher. Rather he's a nationalistic firebrand opposition leader chiefly famous for...

Great point. Anyone with a keyboard can be on the internet today. Always check who wrote whatever you're reading, and what their the goals may be.

 

[JGrimez]

Here's another one that's worth watching (before it gets taken down). The original video was removed for "violating guidelines" and this expert is being censored a lot by Youtube. He also backs up some of the stuff that I've been saying about a vaccine's aim to alter peoples' DNA and behavior:

"In an unprecedented way, we see all of the governments around the world with very few exceptions all adopting the same policy at the same time frame. This tells us that this is a highly coordinated effort, internationally and it tells us that there's a group of people or individuals who are directing the governments, essentially what to do. So this is very compatible with this globalist agenda, moving towards a one world government, with tighter control over the population, with a reduced population, with a new financial monetary and currency system and there's evidence for all these aspects. The overall plan has been well laid-out in the United Nations document Agenda 21 (later changed to Agenda 2030). There are many other supporting documents like the Rockefeller document and there are several others that essentially give all the details to this plan, and they all correlate with the policies that are taking place right now. So if you want to know what's coming in the future and what the overall agenda is you can simply study those documents and you'll see pretty clearly where we're at and where we're headed."

-Andrew Kaufman, MD

 

[Ganjcat]

I'm kinda surprised you don't just watch it. Do you live in a country where Youtube is blocked or something? Get a VPN.
From the video description:




Here's another one that's worth watching (before it gets taken down). The original video was removed for "violating guidelines" and this expert is being censored a lot by Youtube. He also backs up some of the stuff that I've been saying about a vaccine's aim to alter peoples' DNA and behavior:

No I'm just lazy guess it's to much for you to just answer my question..

 

[Fire&Water]

... and quit crying "whacko conspiracist" because its too "scary" to comprehend
{to no one in particular)

 

[TheLoveBandit]

LMAO....all those Cali cities that declared themselves 'Sanctuary Cities' from Trump's immigration laws and stated they won't abide by the law as dictated from above....

Atwater, CA declares itself "sanctuary city" from lockdown, allows businesses to open

In defiance of Gov. Gavin Newsom's statewide lockdown orders, the city council of Atwater, California unanimously passed a resolution Friday declaring the city of 30,000 a "sanctuary city" in which businesses and churches will be allowed to open.

A photo of the beginning of the city's passed resolution shows this summary:

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ATWATER AFFIRMING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PROPERTY, AND DECLARING THE CITY OF ATWATER A SANCTUARY CITY FOR ALL BUSINESSES.

As a result of the resolution, businesses and houses of worship will be allowed to open and operate free from interference from local authorities.
Atwater Mayor Paul Creighton said:

"This is America. You have the choice. It's time for the government to stop dictating another month, another three months, six months. When is it going to end? When everyone is bankrupt?"

 

[JGrimez]

No I'm just lazy guess it's to much for you to just answer my question..

Yes it is too much because it was literally a 2 min video of the UK's chief health official. Basically he dispels all the fearmongering nonsense regarding this virus. He says even the most sick and vulnerable people who contract it won't die from it.

 

[JGrimez]

So true.

“The Nazis didn’t see themselves as monsters. They saw themselves as heroes, as saviors, or just as regular Germans leading regular lives. When they looked at the propaganda posters which surrounded them (as the Internet surrounds us today), they didn’t see sadistic mass-murderers and totalitarian psychopathic freaks. They saw normal people, admirable people, who were making the world a better place.

They saw themselves.
They saw “the good guys.”

This is primarily how propaganda works. It isn’t meant to fool anybody. It is there to represent “normality” (whatever “normality” happens to be in whatever empire one happens to inhabit). It is Power’s way of letting us know what it wants us to believe, how it wants us to behave, who our official enemies are. Its purpose isn’t to mislead or deceive us. It is an edict, a command, an ideological model … to which we are all expected to conform. Conform to this ideological model, and one is rewarded, or at least not punished. Deviate from it, and suffer the consequences.

It is a question of obedience, not one of truth.”

 

[Captain.Heroin]

LMAO....all those Cali cities that declared themselves 'Sanctuary Cities' from Trump's immigration laws and stated they won't abide by the law as dictated from above....

Atwater, CA declares itself "sanctuary city" from lockdown, allows businesses to open

This isn't funny it's serious. Newsom is dangerous and he shouldn't be in power.

I'd concur with a lockdown coming from a governor who was more interested in not exercising far leftist politics on people who largely don't hold a majority view like him (i.e. moratorium on death penalty... the state gasoline tax is disgusting... I did not vote for this joker). Not every Republican governor immediately wanted to open; some are toeing the line carefully.

I don't trust Newsom. I think Trump is doing a better job than Newsom.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

from a governor who was more interested in not exercising far leftist politics on people

You speak the truth....


article from April:

Gov. Newsom: Coronavirus Is ‘Opportunity for Reimagining a More Progressive Era’

Capitol news reporters are not allowed to attend the governor’s press briefings because of Coronavirus and the need for social distancing, so reporters call in with questions.

A reporter with Bloomberg News asked Gov. Newsom: “Do you see the potential, as many others in the Party do, for a new progressive era and opportunity for additional progressive steps?” (video at 51:45)

The governor admittedly gave a long-winded answer which culminated in, “yes,” admitting there is political opportunity born out of the pandemic. “There is opportunity for reimagining a progressive era as it pertains to capitalism,” Gov. Newsom said. “So yes, absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern.”

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You speak the truth....


article from April:

Gov. Newsom: Coronavirus Is ‘Opportunity for Reimagining a More Progressive Era’

Terrible.

I'm so glad I voted for Cox (R).

 

[JGrimez]

Some people just really want everything Trump says to be false. They seeth with rage everytime he says something that runs counter to what they've been told by establishment media.

on Hydroxychloroquine:

 

[Captain.Heroin]

It's really fucking stupid to take immunosuppressants without a legitimate medical need.

 

[JGrimez]

OK Doctor

 

[Captain.Heroin]

OK Doctor

By all means don't let me from ruining your perfectly functional immune system with drugs you don't need...

Are you the type to take antibiotics for viral infections? Or is that just helicopter moms that are the problem?

 

[phenethylo J]

People who end up starting their own businesses end up becoming more conservative simply based on the experience of taking care of themselves and the government making it as difficult as possible. Now they've made it impossible for many people and destroyed much of their chances in the future. Even if they open up with new bullshit restrictions like certain businesses only allowed to operate at 50% of their original capacity. Most businesses can't survive running at 50%.

I believe much of this has been deliberate, especially considering the original numbers that were used to scare people into lockdowns were FALSE. It makes no sense apart from an attack against the average person and our way of life.


Unemployment benefits are a privilege for richer countries. For most people in the world they either work or relatives look after them or they die.



What is the purpose for that "work"? They do it because it's fun or they do it to afford things to keep them alive and safe? I don't think you understand the concept of work. Whether you're foraging through the bush to hunt an antelope or you're flipping burgers it still has the same result. You're doing work in order to provide food for yourself and your family. Having a dedication to some type of work keeps people psychologically healthy. I would go so far as to say it's part of our inherent nature. Because like I've illustrated, if you're in the wild (our natural state) then you either work or you die. So since technology and society has advanced, the nature of "work" has changed. Now we could have a discussion about predatory capitalism and the enslavement of humanity via the workforce and I'm sure we'd come to some agreements, but that's different to what I'm saying don't get it twisted.

And if you have a problem with the system (I have many) the answer is not to destroy it and make things worse for people.

Some people just really want everything Trump says to be false. They seeth with rage everytime he says something that runs counter to what they've been told by establishment media.

on Hydroxychloroquine:

So true.

“The Nazis didn’t see themselves as monsters. They saw themselves as heroes, as saviors, or just as regular Germans leading regular lives. When they looked at the propaganda posters which surrounded them (as the Internet surrounds us today), they didn’t see sadistic mass-murderers and totalitarian psychopathic freaks. They saw normal people, admirable people, who were making the world a better place.

They saw themselves.
They saw “the good guys.”

This is primarily how propaganda works. It isn’t meant to fool anybody. It is there to represent “normality” (whatever “normality” happens to be in whatever empire one happens to inhabit). It is Power’s way of letting us know what it wants us to believe, how it wants us to behave, who our official enemies are. Its purpose isn’t to mislead or deceive us. It is an edict, a command, an ideological model … to which we are all expected to conform. Conform to this ideological model, and one is rewarded, or at least not punished. Deviate from it, and suffer the consequences.

It is a question of obedience, not one of truth.”

So is the main point you have been trying to make in this thread is that this whole virus is a flat out lie cooked up by elitist shadow government liberal globalists who are using it to make Trump and conservatives look bad and ultimately turn our entire world into one giant welfare state utopia? Am I interpreting you correctly?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Just stuff yerself full of hydroxychloroquine like your beloved president and everything will be hunky dory...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Just stuff yerself full of hydroxychloroquine like your beloved president and everything will be hunky dory...

yeah the 3 fold mortality is like totally fake news

 

[JGrimez]

So is the main point you have been trying to make in this thread is that this whole virus is a flat out lie cooked up by elitist shadow government liberal globalists who are using it to make Trump and conservatives look bad and ultimately turn our entire world into one giant welfare state utopia? Am I interpreting you correctly?

Yes to this. I don't want to blame the Left or Democrats or Liberals for all this. I find the whole Left/Right dichotomy is ultimately a divisive tactic to distract people while an overarching agenda continues on its goal to enslave and/or reduce the global population. Although I wouldn't go so far as to say that the virus is completely a lie.

 

[Xorkoth]

My state is beginning to lift lockdown... public gatherings have been about doubled in size, parks have reopened, and businesses are allowed to be open again including restaurants, but with lower allowed capacity. Nothing was ever actually enforced but most people followed the orders. We specifically were told that there would be no enforcement. I do think lockdown was the right choice, because we were facing an unknown. I read that at first a lot more people were dying who ended up in the ICU, but as they have learned more and gotten better at treating it, a lot more people are surviving. Plus, we just didn't know how deadly it would be or if there would be unforeseen side effects. We actually still don't know if there could be long-term consequences, but it's absolutely true that a badly damaged economy causes a lot of human suffering and ultimately loss of life, and quality of life. So I think there needs to be a balance, especially considering the virus will surely become endemic. I think my state has done a good job handling this, hopefully things can bounce back better than if we had remained locked down for longer. It seems like most small businesses are going to make it, since they're allowed to open again (and some never closed since there was no enforcement), and many were given grants with the relief bill.

The US left the handling of lockdown to states, and some states have gone way more radical with their implementation than others. For my state, I haven't seen anything that suggests any malicious intent. In fact, the federal government's relegating of implementation to individual states and its role being to simply issue guidelines really suggests to me that there was no nefarious intent with this, but rather an appropriate reaction to a potentially devastating pandemic.