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Stimulants Meth IV - Congealing in rig

Misskitt

Misskitt

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Heya people’s!

What does it mean when you draw up meth mixed with water and the rig (needle) congeals? It was even an effort to draw the solution into the rig.

Ended up missing a bit because it was so fucking difficult to register and then push in. Like extra force required. Didn’t get super fucked up.

Just wondering if anyone knew why this would happen?
 
How concentrated is the solution? If it's just meth and water, and is congealing when it is loaded into a syringe, it could simply be too concentrated, and the meth precipitates out as it's moved to a cooler area.

A cursory look on the web suggests that pure methamphetamine hydrochloride can dissolve up to 500mg per mL of water (!!!!)

Despite playground rumor, there's nothing to be gained from using super concentrated solutions. The difference between a 1mL injection and a 10mL injection is not going to be noticable.
 
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Are you using heat to help it dissolve?

I ask cause.. temperature changes causing a cut to dissolve and then precipitate out is the best answer I can think of.
 
On a good shot i usually do .2 to.3 grams with 30 units of water. U can cold mix or hot mix ur choice hot mix will pull infirmities out for better result but let it cool in syringe then take the shot as far as hard to draw the needle in bloodstream would draw good, past it would b complications b sure ur draw is good. I barely pull and if the spot is right i do my shot
 
If I let my shot sit, sometimes it seems to crystallize in the needle. Either draw up a bit of water into the rig and push it out again, or draw it up into a new needle
 
Darkman1979 said:
On a good shot i usually do .2 to.3 grams with 30 units of water. U can cold mix or hot mix ur choice hot mix will pull infirmities out for better result but let it cool in syringe then take the shot as far as hard to draw the needle in bloodstream would draw good, past it would b complications b sure ur draw is good. I barely pull and if the spot is right i do my shot
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Id recommend against heating it when you dissolve it. Not just meth, any drug.

The problem is that the meth itself (same should be true of heroin hcl) should dissolve in water fine.

So I would suspect that anything that's reforming into at lower temperatures is actually cut.

I dunno, I'm mainly an iv heroin addict, but I've had IV meth before a bunch of times, and in my experience it shouldnt recrystslize.

If it does, I'd suspect it was cut and filter it back out. Then again, not being much of a meth user and having no tolerance, it didn't bother my at all to think I might be wasting a bit of it.

If it were heroin I'd be a lot more inclined to do something stupid like trying to shoot cut.
 
JessFR said:
Id recommend against heating it when you dissolve it. Not just meth, any drug.

The problem is that the meth itself (same should be true of heroin hcl) should dissolve in water fine.

So I would suspect that anything that's reforming into at lower temperatures is actually cut.

I dunno, I'm mainly an iv heroin addict, but I've had IV meth before a bunch of times, and in my experience it shouldnt recrystslize.

If it does, I'd suspect it was cut and filter it back out. Then again, not being much of a meth user and having no tolerance, it didn't bother my at all to think I might be wasting a bit of it.

If it were heroin I'd be a lot more inclined to do something stupid like trying to shoot cut.
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Pure meth will recrystalize easily because that is the nature of the drug. It doesn't happen every time, but it can because there is only a small amount of it in the tip of the needle and one end of it is exposed to air.

You are correct, there is no need to ever heat up the meth. When you add water to pure meth, it dissolves very easily and in no time at all
 
The way I see it, a rapid boil doesn't hurt anything, and helps to ensure sterility, just in case.

Obviously anything that needs to be boiled to be dissolved should probably not be shot up.
 
Try back-loading - shake it up real good until you don't see any crystal in the solution.

This has happened to me before.

No heating needed, just be patient.

And it draws up the perfect amount of water automatically. Load 20cc, get 20cc of water. Easy. Boom.

I only didn't backload once, when i mixed with heroin. Everyone i ever used with backloads. It's really really easy.
 
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Here's how you do it: crush up the meth wicked fine. Take out the plunger. Dump the meth into the back. I use 30 gauge 1cc half inch tips. So 10cc = .1 grams, roughly. Now draw up water, and you'll get exactly how much meth you put in with water. 10cc meth will draw up 10cc water. Shake it up for like a minute until there are no crystals shinning around. Turn the needle upside down and push out the excess air. Shoot.
 
I hope you mean 0.10 cc, 10 cc = 10 mL = a hell of a lot of crushed meth, and more than comfortably fits in a 1mL rig!
 
I'm having a lot of trouble working out what madness is suggesting.

But I'm a little concerned that it seems to involve no filtering either.

One issue though. I haven't actually tested this in a long time, but I vividly remember that dissolving drugs in water slightly increases the volume of liquid. I remember drawing up a certain amount of water, dissolving heroin in it, and then having more liquid after than I started with.
 
Yeah i do sekio. My bad. I meant 1/10th of the rig, whatever that is.

Jess - dunno what to tell yah. You're right though, no cotton to "filter".
 
You really should filter if you're gonna be IVing all the time.

Also I can't see how you're gonna easily shake anything in a 1ml syringe. IME it's nearly impossible to shake anything inside them because the air gets in the way of the liquid.
 
The air gaps what I'm imagining would be the problem.

Like, if you imagine drawing up some water, then some air, then some water. It's not like the two lots of water instantly mix together. The air can keep them separated because of..... Fluid dynamics shit I don't fully understand probably involving surface tension or something.

I dunno, just doesn't sound all that easy, but I can't say I've ever actually tried what you're describing myself.
 
It's very easy and i can assure you it mixes.

What i don't get, and excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does a cotton filter?
 
madness00 said:
It's very easy and i can assure you it mixes.

What i don't get, and excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does a cotton filter?
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Any solids basically.

It's surprisingly easy to wind up with solid particles that don't dissolve when you're mixing up a shot.

Either from cut in the drugs, or just bits of shit in the air. Same way shit gets dust on stuff over time too I suppose.

Cotton keeps anything like that from getting in the syringe, your veins, and ultimately your lungs.

It's a precaution. You're not likely to die or anything from not filtering a single shot. But I wouldn't wanna be doing it a lot over time.
 
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