Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

[Captain.Heroin]

HIV was VERY SERIOUS. It still is.

We didn't legally mandate Americans to use condoms, however... I see major civil liberty flaws that are worth exploring here.

 

[JGrimez]

Facebook is censoring any posts that are counter to the claims of the World Health Organization.

That means at one point it was a violation of Facebook's terms of service to warn that coronavirus was spreading person to person.

 

[Ds]

Do you have a few hundred to invest in a few N95s that you can rotate so the virus has time to die off (so you can use them more then once)? And moreso, would you be allowed to wear one?

All they gave us for protection is a home made face mask and some lunch lady type of gloves.
No face shields, or gowns.
It's really fucked up.

 

[mr peabody]

Dear all,

For an indepth, no-nonsense perspective on it all, check out this amazing video! :

 

[neversickanymore]

All they gave us for protection is a home made face mask and some lunch lady type of gloves.
No face shields, or gowns.
It's really fucked up.

Same with the food supply chain. I have ten of the 95s comming but not until may or June. Fuck Covid, this sucks.. Typing before first stop of the day.

 

[CFC]

I liked the way this article from ABC (Australia) was constructed. Gives readers sitting back at home in their cosy armchairs a somewhat less abstract impression of what it's like dealing with the pandemic down at ground zero:

Behind enemy lines

At the height of New York’s coronavirus outbreak, we followed the city’s paramedics into the homes and apartments of the sick and dying.

By Karishma Vyas in New York​

​

'I've never seen a person alive with a number like that': Two days with New York paramedics

They are the first responders who walk into the homes of those sick and dying of COVID-19. We saw their heartbreak, fear and sacrifice behind the front lines in the city's war on coronavirus.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Kim Jong-un Reportedly in Critical Condition After Surgery

CNN is reporting North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is “in grave danger after a surgery.” South Korean media reported Kim had a heart surgery, but few details about his condition are known. Speculation about Kim’s health was fueled when he did not appear at a recent celebration for his grandfather...

www.democracynow.org

THERE
IS
A
GOD

 

[MsDiz]

Kim Jong-un Reportedly in Critical Condition After Surgery

CNN is reporting North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is “in grave danger after a surgery.” South Korean media reported Kim had a heart surgery, but few details about his condition are known. Speculation about Kim’s health was fueled when he did not appear at a recent celebration for his grandfather...

www.democracynow.org

THERE
IS
A
GOD

The evil ones always survive I’ve found though...

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

It sure took a while for Charles Manson to finally kick the bucket.

 

[JessFR]

COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study

Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.

www.foxnews.com

Sigh.

It may be a fairly small study, but it's enough to cast huge doubt on this being any miracle drug.

If it turns out that it actually increases deaths, that'd be just great.

 

[MsDiz]

COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study

Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.

www.foxnews.com

Sigh.

It may be a fairly small study, but it's enough to cast huge doubt on this being any miracle drug.

If it turns out that it actually increases deaths, that'd be just great.

Read that recently too actually. Tbh I didn’t hold much hope for it. The side effects are so bad you’d need to be in bad shape to need to use it.

 

[JessFR]

Read that recently too actually. Tbh I didn’t hold much hope for it. The side effects are so bad you’d need to be in bad shape to need to use it.

Neither did I.

There was never any good evidence for using it on a remotely large scale outside of the confines of a study or touting it as a breakthrough.

There was reason for further study of its potential, if those studies had shown it as a miracle drug, then we could tout it as a breakthrough. Doing so earlier than that was so irresponsible.

 

[S.J.B.]

COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study

Malaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.

www.foxnews.com

Sigh.

It may be a fairly small study, but it's enough to cast huge doubt on this being any miracle drug.

If it turns out that it actually increases deaths, that'd be just great.

This is not a randomized controlled trial, it's a retrospective analysis of data in the system, so it is necessarily less informative. It's possible that, for example, physicians gave hydroxychloroquine to patients they thought would fare worse and that could explain the higher death rate in hydroxychloroquine-treated patients, or the physicians who chose to use hydroxychloroquine may have been less adept, etc.

That said, what little we have seen so far in randomized controlled trials on hydroxychloroquine already makes it pretty clear it's no miracle drug.

 

[JessFR]

This is not a randomized controlled trial, it's a retrospective analysis of data in the system, so it is necessarily less informative. It's possible that, for example, physicians gave hydroxychloroquine to patients they thought would fare worse and that could explain the higher death rate in hydroxychloroquine-treated patients, or the physicians who chose to use hydroxychloroquine may have been less adept, etc.

That said, what little we have seen so far in randomized controlled trials on hydroxychloroquine already makes it pretty clear it's no miracle drug.

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm trying to get at. This isn't enough to say with much certainty that using the drug makes anyone more likely to die, but it's yet more evidence that at best its not very effective at treating the disease.

I still suspect in the long run we will find that the drug simply doesn't help.

 

[S.J.B.]

WHO warns that few have developed antibodies to Covid-19
Sarah Boseley
The Guardian
April 20th, 2020

Only a tiny proportion of the global population – maybe as few as 2% or 3% – appear to have antibodies in the blood showing they have been infected with Covid-19, according to the World Health Organization, a finding that bodes ill for hopes that herd immunity will ease the exit from lockdown.

“Easing restrictions is not the end of the epidemic in any country,” said WHO director-general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus at a media briefing in Geneva on Monday. “So-called lockdowns can help to take the heat out of a country’s epidemic.”

But serological testing to find out how large a proportion of the population have had the infection and developed antibodies to it – which it is hoped will mean they have some level of immunity – suggests that the numbers are low.

“Early data suggests that a relatively small percentage of the populations may have been infected,” Tedros said. “Not more than 2%-3%.”

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, an American infectious diseases expert who is the WHO’s technical lead on Covid-19, said they had thought the number of people infected would be higher, but she stressed it was still too early to be sure. “Initially, we see a lower proportion of people with antibodies than we were expecting,” she said. “A lower number of people are infected.”

Read the full story here.

 

[JessFR]

All these suggestions that we (as in the world generally) are over the worst of it are absurd.

And we can't simply just do nothing for the sake of the economy. Even if young people don't experience long term health complications as a result of infection, you can't simply have a huge chunk of your work force seriously ill at the same time and expect that not to hurt the economy too. Not to mention that those younger members of society have lots of older relatives. Relatives they may have to take care of, or manage their estate should they die.

Basically, there is no good way out of this. There is no option where the economy isn't hurt and huge numbers of people don't die. There's just which one you're prepared to see affected worse. The only "good" way out would be if we had a vaccine or a very effective treatment. And we don't.

Some people seem to act like people below 50 are entirely immune, but that's nonsense.

 

[Ds]

If it were up to me I say open back up because I am sick and tired of having to listen to my boss still wearing their pajamas bitching on some new cleaning protocol on a zoom video chat.
In a real sense I still think it's to early but still I think anyone in the administration field show atleast make an appearance to their esential workers.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

If it were up to me I say open back up because I am sick and tired of having to listen to my boss still wearing their pajamas bitching on some new cleaning protocol on a zoom video chat.
In a real sense I still think it's to early but still I think anyone in the administration field show atleast make an appearance to their esential workers.

LOL

I bet you he bitches about cleaning, slacks off, gets covid anyways.

I've had GOOD managers at certain jobs who aren't afraid to get elbows dirty with the workers when shit hits the fan, and some that are (and they will tank a business/their career).

Just let time work its magic. Your boss won't have his job forever if he's not pulling his weight.

 

[Blowmonkey]

I just saw this picture posted and initially thought it was fake, turns out it isn't. This one guy's been bedridden for over a hundred days by now, 42 isn't exactly the age group you'd expect this to be having such a severe impact on.

Chinese Doctors Turned Coronavirus Victims Find Their Skin Turning Black: How Does That Happen?

Two Chines doctors who have become victims of the coronavirus are now experiencing an odd change in their bodies as their skin darkens due to liver damage and certain medications.

www.sciencetimes.com

 

[neversickanymore]

Interesting and relevant information on T Cell Mediated immune response to respiratory coronaviruses.

T cell-mediated immune response to respiratory coronaviruses

Emerging respiratory coronaviruses such as the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) pose potential biological threats to humans. SARS and MERS are manifested as severe atypical ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I may be fucked like a football bat if I get this.