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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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JGrimez said:
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In the middle "But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment [a virus that is a lab creation, a non-natural risk] justifies the potential risk"

THIS is why I think many countries are doing such lab work. If not as a weapon, then defensively to better understand how viruses work, and how to deal with them when a new and unexpected one erupts (lab made or natural made). Again, not wanting to think anyone is doing such experiments out of maliciousness, but science DOES have a mandate to explore, understand, and help us prepare defensively for such things. This inherently creates the additional risk of a 'lab experiment escape' out to the general population, unfortunately.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Please read the editor's note in that article.
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I did and it’s not a coincidence that virus they created behaves exactly like this COVID 19! Which leads to...

Painful One said:


This is really scary.
FEMA is now in charge!
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The President signed everything over to FEMA. So FEMA has control now. This means they can put Martial Law into action. They’ve been planning this all along. I just didn’t know exactly how or what would happen in order for them to create chaos and an emergency situation which allows them to control the entire population.

So it’s clear as day they set this COVID 19 loose in order to get Martial Law happening. New World Order. This is really fucked up.
 
neversickanymore said:
Great article here imho, what are your thoughts?

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | America Will Struggle After Coronavirus. These Charts Show Why. (Published 2020)

A portrait of a vulnerable America.
www.nytimes.com
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Log in or create an account for
free access to up-to-date information
and expert guidance on coronavirus.
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This should probably be merged into the existing COVID thread. I'm apparently an outlier in thinking that the economic effects will be uncomfortable but not disastrous. Time will tell.

MOD EDIT: agreed, merged.
 
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CFC said:
The TPP and TTIP were giant billionaire-corporate stitch ups.
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I didn't say anything about the TTIP, and I don't want to divert too much from the thread, but since we're on the subject: how, exactly, does your statement contradict my statement? Is it supposed to be unexpected that billionaires and corporations are opposed to communists?

I've given up on convincing people that joining the TPP (which is still very much alive) was a good idea. There's one of me and two hundred million of you. But I still hope that Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, Peru, Mexico and Canada will enjoy their new free-trade area and work together to contain Chinese aggression towards Taiwan. We're historically late to the party anyway.
 
This article is from 2014, but it’s extremely relevant today:


What is F.E.M.A. ? “Federal Emergency Management Agency”

“What is the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Simply put, it is the “secret government”. This agency has powers and authority that go well beyond any other agency in the nation. What can FEMA do? It can suspend laws. It can move entire populations. It can arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and can hold them without a trial. It can seize property, food supplies, and transportation systems. And it can even suspend the Constitution of the United States.“

“There are over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.”


Notice how it says “all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation”...well Trump signed it. They’ve set the FEMA camps up long ago. I feel sick. This article gives details about the camps and what FEMA can do whenever they feel like it:

This list of camps is from 2014, imagine how many there are now!

newspunch.com

List of Every Known FEMA Camp and Their Locations - Find Yours! - News Punch

Do you live near a FEMA Camp? Below is a list of all known FEMA camps in the US and beyond, but first what is FEMA? World Truth TV reports: BYPASS THE CENSORS Sign up [...]
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Painful One said:


This is really scary.
FEMA is now in charge!
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I just noticed how someone in that video said “We’re in a live exercise right now.” Trump whispered “You should have let us know.”

The word “exercise” is key. It’s not a coincidence that word “exercise” was used. It’s a code. This is taken from that same article I posted above:


“President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA’s ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. The only people that were allowed to enter the premises were ones who had a red Christian cross on their shirt. The exercise required the following:

~ Suspension of the Constitution of the United States

~ Turning control of the government over to FEMA

~ Appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments

~ Declaration of Martial Law”
 
atara said:
I didn't say anything about the TTIP, and I don't want to divert too much from the thread, but since we're on the subject: how, exactly, does your statement contradict my statement? Is it supposed to be unexpected that billionaires and corporations are opposed to communists?

I've given up on convincing people that joining the TPP (which is still very much alive) was a good idea. There's one of me and two hundred million of you. But I still hope that Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, Peru, Mexico and Canada will enjoy their new free-trade area and work together to contain Chinese aggression towards Taiwan. We're historically late to the party anyway.
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You said TPP was "meant to contain China," which it wasn't, and which helps answer your confusion as to why the somewhat anti-corporate Sanders (and anti-China Trump) was so against it. But I suspect you already know that, if you were paying attention to the various strands of criticism levelled at the treaty at the time. And I brought in TTIP because it was essentially the same package of illiberal corporate power-grabbing dressed in slightly different packaging and aimed at a different range of countries.
 
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