☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Tripping Thread: Viruses Can't Penetrate Hyperspace

[Cream Gravy?]

I'm sorry guys I'm just really pessimistic lately. Don't mean to be a buzz kill. Just... life beats you down sometimes, you know?

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

No worries, it happens, no real buzz kill was noted in any case.

When are you moving for real? Might prove to be a good fresh start

 

[Cream Gravy?]

No worries, it happens, no real buzz kill was noted in any case.

When are you moving for real? Might prove to be a good fresh start

Supposedly by the end of this upcoming weekend. Probably a big part of my anger right now... wife and I just finished unpacking all our stuff about a week ago and now it all has to go back into boxes and we don't have spare money to pay anyone to move the heavier stuff so I'm about to kill my back hard...

 

[Delsyd]

Misdemeaners still prevent you from ever working anywhere but a fast-food joint. Any kind of drug charges on your record automatically places you in the slave class here.

I have felony drug charges and managed to find a decent job. I was open about it with my boss during our interview. He actually laughed when he found out I have a felony because of weed. And now I have one of the highest positions at the company I work for. On occasion I bring him edibles. He’s asked me about getting him some ecstasy or mushrooms but I feel uncomfortable crossing that boundary.
My point being that it’s possible to find a decent job even with felony charges, you just gotta poke around.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I have felony drug charges and managed to find a decent job. I was open about it with my boss during our interview. He actually laughed when he found out I have a felony because of weed. And now I have one of the highest positions at the company I work for. On occasion I bring him edibles. He’s asked me about getting him some ecstasy or mushrooms but I feel uncomfortable crossing that boundary.
My point being that it’s possible to find a decent job even with felony charges, you just gotta poke around.

Wow... I can't even find a decent job with no criminal record whatsoever.

So I guess I was wrong. It's all about how biased the employer is.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I mean, if you work for a privately owned company instead of a corporation, I bet lots of folks can get away with having drug offences/using drugs at work. My wife's employer is owned by a lawyer and he told her he didn't care if she does drugs (I guess he was trying to get buddy-buddy with her, she doesn't feel comfortable with him like that sorta like how you won't source MDMA or shrooms for your boss) but of course, they don't drug test her nor are they a very large company.

I've experienced all sorts of biases when looking for employment and it has really jaded me. And shit, I can pass a piss test, I have no record... doesn't seem to matter.

Maybe it's my personality. My wife told me I have an engineer's personality like my father and people either love or hate me and nothing in between, which seems... accurate. I'm blunt and demanding, men appreciate that... women and 'men' don't.

I hold a lot of anger in my heart guys.

 

[thegreenhand]

It saddens me to think family that were once so close fall apart and it scares me to the point where I try to always keep that close connection open even now that I live so far away. I travel often mainly to see them.

I think solo vs group tripping comes down to whether your an introvert or extrovert. I’m personally an introvert and can often be more comfortable alone with a heavy dose than around others. Music festivals are nice though cuz the music/dance provides a distraction and outlet for those moments where things get weird.

When I was a kid I’d go across the street from my house into these thick woods and take mushrooms, sometimes spending the whole day walking around the woods with nothing but a Discman containing Dark Side of the Moon and my thoughts.

I remember how fascinated I was by how it would make my mind travel down the strangest thought tangents.

One night I remember taking 4g and the trip was a strong one that stretched into the night. I laid in a field as the sun set looking up into the sky watching the craziest things and patterns take place up there.

I was beyond fucked when I decided I needed to at least get close to the house while it wears off. I snuck into my backyard and hid in the trees for a few more hours til I could get my shit together enough to go in to see my folks.

Good times.

That said, to this day if I’m around people I don’t trust my mind goes to some weird places.

One experience took some strong wood lovers (forget the species long time back) and thought our recently met festie neighbors were plotting against us.

In my mind they were gonna spin fire poi for us to distract us while they robbed our asses lol. Later I found out I wasn’t fully mind fucked as they were major mooches but my mind amplified that times a million to this convoluted scheme.

Also very dependent on the psychedelic. Mushrooms are better for solo trips, LSD and Mescaline are more social.

-GC

Have yet to try mescaline, hopefully I can get my hands on some eventually. I agree that LSD is much more social. I took it at a New Years party this year (not huge and and I knew most of the people there) and had one of the beat trips of my life actually. Once corona does down I’m hoping to take it a trap concert. I do love me some mosh pits. Moral of the story is, if there’s a dance floor I’ll be fine no matter what I’m on

 

[thegreenhand]

I mean, if you work for a privately owned company instead of a corporation, I bet lots of folks can get away with having drug offences/using drugs at work. My wife's employer is owned by a lawyer and he told her he didn't care if she does drugs (I guess he was trying to get buddy-buddy with her, she doesn't feel comfortable with him like that sorta like how you won't source MDMA or shrooms for your boss) but of course, they don't drug test her nor are they a very large company.

I've experienced all sorts of biases when looking for employment and it has really jaded me. And shit, I can pass a piss test, I have no record... doesn't seem to matter.

Maybe it's my personality. My wife told me I have an engineer's personality like my father and people either love or hate me and nothing in between, which seems... accurate. I'm blunt and demanding, men appreciate that... women and 'men' don't.

I hold a lot of anger in my heart guys.

I’m a student so I only work part time at a job on campus but with my boss we’re all open about drug use. Surprised me at first given that it’s a university job but then again we’re all on the younger side. The amount of coworkers who had done molly in the past month had me floored lol

 

[Xorkoth]

Misdemeaners still prevent you from ever working anywhere but a fast-food joint. Any kind of drug charges on your record automatically places you in the slave class here.

Untrue, misdemeanor drug charges are not treated the same as a felony at all. I mean it does go on your record but it's not part of the blanket status quo of refusing felons good jobs. Some individual employers might care, but it's less and less likely, especially for weed.

Wow... I can't even find a decent job with no criminal record whatsoever.

So I guess I was wrong. It's all about how biased the employer is.

That, and also it has a LOT to do with your interview skills/how you come across to an employer.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Untrue, misdemeanor drug charges are not treated the same as a felony at all. I mean it does go on your record but it's not part of the blanket status quo of refusing felons good jobs. Some individual employers might care, but it's less and less likely, especially for weed.



That, and also it has a LOT to do with your interview skills/how you come across to an employer.

I’m a great interviewer, firm handshake, dressed to the nines, constant eye contact, self confidence. I think that’s why people don’t like me. I come across as full of myself, which I am. Mofos don’t know what they’re missing. I’m management. People don’t like strong men showing them up.

 

[cosmic charlie]

I'd ask to be cremated and thrown in the ocean ☠

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Have yet to try mescaline, hopefully I can get my hands on some eventually. I agree that LSD is much more social. I took it at a New Years party this year (not huge and and I knew most of the people there) and had one of the beat trips of my life actually. Once corona does down I’m hoping to take it a trap concert. I do love me some mosh pits. Moral of the story is, if there’s a dance floor I’ll be fine no matter what I’m on

Cactus (mescaline) is amazing, I've fucked around with phenethylamines a lot and some come close but there's no beating the sensual beauty and warm love that mescaline is. It feels a little rough around the edges, but that only adds to the magic.
I wish I could take it with someone. People think it's like this intense trip where you have to puke for sure..... If only they knew how it really is, few people would need convincing.
Not that I try to convince people, I might suggest it when it feels right, which rarely happens sadly.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I think Fear and Loathing gave a lot of people the wrong idea about mescaline. I know before I ever tried it, because of that movie/book I had this idea that it was like super-acid. In reality it's the gentlest of psychedelics, very serene, I can't imagine having a bad experience on mescaline, it reminds me of MDMA kind of except much more complex and psychedelic.

 

[SunriseChampion]

...... it reminds me of MDMA kind of except much more complex and psychedelic.

*adds to list alongside 2C-B and DMT*

...I love MDMA so that's a good selling point for me.


@G_Chem....the distract you with poi and steal your shit had me spitting tea. I can imagine exactly how you must have felt. I've been in situations like that as well when high where I don't trust some stranger/s and get really fucky thoughts similar to yours.

Blunt and demanding, eh, @Cream Gravy? I'd hire your ass, that's exactly how I am at work and my clients love it because it shows that I care about doing the job properly.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Blunt and demanding, eh, @Cream Gravy? I'd hire your ass, that's exactly how I am at work and my clients love it because it shows that I care about doing the job properly.

I know right? I find myself to have excellent managerial/organizational personality traits. I like my ducks to be in a row. But for whatever reason, every job I interview for, the interviewer seems to be feminine/emasculated in nature and finds my commanding attitude a major turn-off and reason not to hire me, likely because they know I'll tell them exactly what I think and they'd rather someone metaphorically suck their dick than be told they're wrong when they're wrong.

 

[SunriseChampion]

Yeah, that's brutal. Being passed up because of other people's psychological hangups and insecurities.

What industry do you work in, if I may ask?

 

[SunriseChampion]

Sunrise, my first solo trip had me feeling uneasy as well. Actually come to think of it that was a pretty dark one. Having experimented with solo trips a couple times I can say I definitely prefer the communal experiences.

Did you find subsequent ones to be less uneasy? And was like the entirety of the experience uneasy when it was, or was it just small parts? For me, it was just the peak that was almost jittery like some sort of stimulant-induced anxiety, but not quite, thank fuck.

I don't know how long this damn plague lockdown here is going to last (at least another three weeks, by the looks of it) so I want to try another low dose...probably even lower, I'm thinking. I want to try to find a pleasant low dose tea experience. I just have a lot of mushrooms and no one to share them with so I may as well experiment on the low end. I am sure as hell not trying to recreate my 7g experience stuck here by myself. I might not come back, if you know what I mean.

Full sackin it with the homies, however, is of course like nothing else.

Oh yeah, kicking it around a bonfire on the Georgian Bay rocks with my mates with the stars in full bloom and the northern lights creeping in from the north can't be beat. It's like a full tribal times of our ancestors trip situation then.

 

[thegreenhand]

Did you find subsequent ones to be less uneasy? And was like the entirety of the experience uneasy when it was, or was it just small parts? For me, it was just the peak that was almost jittery like some sort of stimulant-induced anxiety, but not quite, thank fuck.

I don't know how long this damn plague lockdown here is going to last (at least another three weeks, by the looks of it) so I want to try another low dose...probably even lower, I'm thinking. I want to try to find a pleasant low dose tea experience. I just have a lot of mushrooms and no one to share them with so I may as well experiment on the low end. I am sure as hell not trying to recreate my 7g experience stuck here by myself. I might not come back, if you know what I mean.



Oh yeah, kicking it around a bonfire on the Georgian Bay rocks with my mates with the stars in full bloom and the northern lights creeping in from the north can't be beat. It's like a full tribal times of our ancestors trip situation then.

Tbh I’ve only done two solo trips. The first one was a hellish, difficult trip for the whole 12 hours but I needed to see what it showed me. The second one was definitely much smoother although I’ll note that my roommate did pop in unexpectedly for a bit on the come up. I don’t think that changed the experience to a group one though by any means. I actually had my first ego death experience that trip on 200 ug. It happened relatively early in the trip and after I came back I just vibed to music and such for the remainder. Fun and all but I did feel kinda lonely and ended up calling up some friends to chat for a bit. I definitely would stick to low doses and maybe do some creative work like dancing or playing an instrument if that’s your thing. I nearly lost myself on the first solo trip I did (400 ug, big mistake considering it was my first time alone) and quite frankly it was a stroke of luck that I made it back out.

This winter I had an excellent 0.7 g mushroom tea experience while snowboarding with some friends, it was exhilarating. You could try going on a bike ride or hike and bring a thermos of the tea with you. Some people may prefer higher doses but personally after having done both, I prefer the lower “psycholytic” doses as opposed to the mind bending high dose extremely psychedelic ones. I wouldnt go for any avatar type shit just use the energy of the mushroom to compliment your being if ya know what I mean. I’m sure you’ll have a great time

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I've never had a problem with solo tripping, sometimes it's not the right moment and you're not feeling well, but there's a difference between feeling uncomfortable and sad, and freaking out. Given that you're so experienced in the mushroom field, I'd be surprised the latter happens, though still possible I guess.

Had a 'bad trip' once though, the first 1h30 of 4.5mg of DOI, I thought I went nuts and had literally broken myself for some reason, , insane thought loops, lots of crying, visuals that made me hardly able to see, puking. Then I ran to my friend's place and it was all good.

Psychedelics can be jittery, and uncomfortable, but when you focus too much on it in your head it probably exacerbates the effect. I'd try not to think too much about it, and focus on the good aspects of how you and your body are feeling. I feel like this is especially true for mushrooms, the bodyload isn't bad at all ime, but when you really start focusing on something, it can easily grow quite bothersome.
Also, I find that moving your body and being active (a walk, a short dance to the music) helps immensely. I never understood how people could lie down in their bed for the whole duration of a (shroom) trip, although in theory it does sound appealing.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Yeah, that's brutal. Being passed up because of other people's psychological hangups and insecurities.

What industry do you work in, if I may ask?

Well, I’ve tried my hand at teaching, the military (by far my best fit, but bum knees got me kicked out), a number of sales and retail type jobs. I always gun for management and people get pissed that I’m more educated than them in retail. I think my ability to express myself verbally concerns people too, most folks seem inept at using the English language. Makes me sound pretentious I guess.