Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

[Sbar25]

Everything comes back. However, with regards to confidence, remember that you were a victim of forced drugging, so that might affect you as a traumatic experience, in which case it will have a brutal effect on your concentration and learning (as it did for me). but keep your head up. Do not give up.

Since someone mentioned court orders I believe I ought to tell you, they'll be biased juries so try hard to avoid them. However, if the choice is between voluntary injection and court order, definitely go to court if you can afford it, but with a good lawyer.
Also, give them absolutely no material evidence that you're a threat to yourself/others. Remember that under the UN Conventions for the treatment of the mentally ill, a previous history of mental disorders/hospitalizations does not warrant a present judgment. If detained by law enforcement refuse to speak unless you go to court first. If you say anything to either the ER staff or the police officers, they will misrepresent it in their files such that you will wind up getting hospitalized. Say absolutely nothing, only identify yourself to the police. This way when they go to court they have as little information on you as possible and can only look at former files. You could give a written statement to the doctors as well as tell the judge that you're not suicidal and never told the doctors or police so.

So if we would have avoided the injection would they have kept us at the hospital longer? I stupidly took the injection not knowing my rights. Would they have let us out of the hospital for a court order? I'm scared once your in the mental health they try and keep you and lie. I'm afraid the police are lying all the time about people and mental illness.

 

[Hopefuldopeful]

So if we would have avoided the injection would they have kept us at the hospital longer? I stupidly took the injection not knowing my rights. Would they have let us out of the hospital for a court order? I'm scared once your in the mental health they try and keep you and lie. I'm afraid the police are lying all the time about people and mental illness.

I think you might be overthinking it a little my friend. I was paranoid of my doctor and others trying to get me back to health I wish I wasn’t. Psychosis isn’t fun at all and being cooperative with the doctors would’ve saved me 2 additional psychotic episodes considering I never took any of the medications aside from Invega.

 

[Fodium]

@Bogdan have you noticed any other positive effects since 3 months? Has your energy improved at all?

 

[Bogdan]

@Bogdan have you noticed any other positive effects since 3 months? Has your energy improved at all?

Energy improved just a little bit. My mood improved a bit aswell, but it’s early I think after 3 shots to see some big improvements

 

[Hopefuldopeful]

You’ll come fine in a few more months. My days were like this as well. The weed will eventually work again to do its best to just hold off for a few more months. Also be careful of possible relapse. Stay safe.

hey guys i have the same problem.
had a psychosis in march and was treated rispond 3mg, perphenazine 20mg, and xeplion injection.

i was put on rispond on march and i psychiayrist added perphenazine later on and i took this crap for like 2 months, later moved to rispond only and i went cold turkey on july.

i had a 2 monthly xeplion injections in 2 months, last was in november i think. and i went cold turkey again no more anti psychotics and its been 5 months and my sexual drive is back i can jack off every day and not feel depressed plus it wasnt pleasant busting a nut while on meds.
i dont know if my cognition has to do with meds coz i feel like i have memory problems and i barely talk to ppl.
7/10 zombie still

i felt like a zombie i didnt want to wake up in the morning had insomnia thought negatively about life and let it affect me.

one more thing is i casually smoke weed even tho i dont feel anything lol. i smoke since summer 2019 until now and theres no psychosis, only $$$ going down the drain.
i want to quit for a month to see if i get high lol

i also drink alcohol and i feel like alcohol gets me drunk a bit, i drank 2 glasses of whine yesterday and felt a buzz even tho it feels a bit nasty and u just wanna sleep. maybe its related to food because i noticed if i drink on an empty stomach im ok.
idk i drank a 700ml vodka bottle once, felt slight nasty hangover in the morning coz it was probably fake alcohol, and half jagermeister (700ml) with a friend and woke up normal no hangover and my liver is fine and stuff..
i didnt drunk a lot only until january

 

[Sbar25]

Is it normal to feel nauseous in the morning?
When do things get better is their some relief from the grueling first months

 

[awesome31311]

Is it normal to feel nauseous in the morning?
When do things get better is their some relief from the grueling first months

I didn't feel nauseous in the morning on invega alone. Make sure you're drinking lots of water.

So if we would have avoided the injection would they have kept us at the hospital longer? I stupidly took the injection not knowing my rights. Would they have let us out of the hospital for a court order? I'm scared once your in the mental health they try and keep you and lie. I'm afraid the police are lying all the time about people and mental illness.

In America, they do take you to court if you refuse the injection. This is done because the doctors want to relieve themselves of liability. So, if the doctor lets you refuse medication (which is your legal right, by the way), and then as a result you get sicker and do something drastic due to withdrawal/illness, the doctor might get blamed and get sued. To avoid this, they take you to court, so that the court can decide whether or not you need the medication. Now, because of big pharma's corrupt hold over this country's hospitals, when they take you to court, the staff will try hard to make sure to tell only their side of the story and claim you're in need of medication and are going to harm yourself/others, your task is to refute that charge, which is difficult without an expensive lawyer.

The police shouldn't be making any medical claims about your illness, and never have in my experience to me, but if they're saying something about your illness I suggest you get their badge numbers. Doctors don't outright "lie" (in the same sense that police do) so much as they misrepresent. Give them a written notice claiming you're not suicidal or at risk of harming yourself. If possible, have a third party present with you during your visits as witnesses.

If you took the injection voluntarily and avoided court, it's not necessarily a bad thing, since mental health courts are heinously one sided in America (in perspective, mental illness is blamed for mass shootings in this country which are perpetrated by people with a clear written agenda stating otherwise).

The route commonly taken which lets you dodge court fees is to just take the injection and pretend to cooperate, don't give them any reason to suspect you'll stop taking your medication once you get out. However, once you get out, stop taking the injection and move out of state (or if possible, out of the country) for a few months, up to a year.

 

[awesome31311]

@awesome31311 how is your sleep compared to long time ago? And waking up

Sleep is way better now. Still have nightmares from time to time but doctors have claimed those are PTSD symptoms. I refused to take medications for them (because I could not afford them).
And it's not nearly as bad as it was last year. I'd say I'm 90-95% recovered.
For me, the hardest side effects were the akathisia and not being able to feel music, as well as lowered sex drive. All that is now fixed.
As for waking up, I can't wake up as early as 5 AM anymore, but I can still get up at 8 AM, because my circadian rhythms are still the same as they were while I was in the hospital (for about a month, lol).

 

[Paula10]

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Eventually you’ll be able to please your partner again. I went from not even enjoy kissing to eating my gfs butt. I enjoy it very much lol

I wish I could make love to him. It sucks

 

[Paula10]

Sleep is way better now. Still have nightmares from time to time but doctors have claimed those are PTSD symptoms. I refused to take medications for them (because I could not afford them).
And it's not nearly as bad as it was last year. I'd say I'm 90-95% recovered.
For me, the hardest side effects were the akathisia and not being able to feel music, as well as lowered sex drive. All that is now fixed.
As for waking up, I can't wake up as early as 5 AM anymore, but I can still get up at 8 AM, because my circadian rhythms are still the same as they were while I was in the hospital (for about a month, lol).

Do you have a sex drive? Is it strong? At what month did you get it back

 

[Paula10]

I wish I could make love to him. It sucks

You’re so lucky to please your partner. I wish I could now I miss that feeling of sex. It sucks. I have zero sex drive.

 

[Sbar25]

Sleep is way better now. Still have nightmares from time to time but doctors have claimed those are PTSD symptoms. I refused to take medications for them (because I could not afford them).
And it's not nearly as bad as it was last year. I'd say I'm 90-95% recovered.
For me, the hardest side effects were the akathisia and not being able to feel music, as well as lowered sex drive. All that is now fixed.
As for waking up, I can't wake up as early as 5 AM anymore, but I can still get up at 8 AM, because my circadian rhythms are still the same as they were while I was in the hospital (for about a month, lol).

when do the disabling side effects go away.
also the cops charged me with disorderly conduct and the court have me 1 year probation including getting a diagnodis.
do I have to comply

 

[Paula10]

I wish I could make love to him. It sucks

You’re so lucky to please your partner. I wish I could now I miss that feeling of sex. It sucks. I have zero sex drive.

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Eventually you’ll be able to please your partner again. I went from not even enjoy kissing to eating my gfs butt. I enjoy it very much lol

what if he doesn’t wait for me? I’m sad as hell about this. I wish I was in your shoes right now. Do you have loads of energy and motivation? Which improvements did you have first?

 

[Paula10]

You’re so lucky to please your partner. I wish I could now I miss that feeling of sex. It sucks. I have zero sex drive.

what if he doesn’t wait for me? I’m sad as hell about this. I wish I was in your shoes right now. Do you have loads of energy and motivation? Which improvements did you have first?

Hopefuldopful please don’t leave the forums we need you to gives us hope everyday really. I thank you so much for being here because a lot of people who recovered just abandoned us left us with nothing. It’s so sad. If and when I recover I will post to this forum and guide many others after me. I just want the people to come back and post their improvements. Post hope for us now. We need them back. Now we have only two people posting to help us that’s bull shit but I do thank you and awesome31311 for being here with us.

 

[Paula10]

when do the disabling side effects go away.
also the cops charged me with disorderly conduct and the court have me 1 year probation including getting a diagnodis.
do I have to comply

Most people say at month 6 you should feel better. I mean reading the forums tells me around month 6. My kids wants to go to the beach around that time and I’m hoping god improves me enough to go to the beach. I need energy for my kids and I have zero energy. Hell im still in bed now and it’s 2:45 pm. Ugh

 

[Sbar25]

I didn't feel nauseous in the morning on invega alone. Make sure you're drinking lots of water.



In America, they do take you to court if you refuse the injection. This is done because the doctors want to relieve themselves of liability. So, if the doctor lets you refuse medication (which is your legal right, by the way), and then as a result you get sicker and do something drastic due to withdrawal/illness, the doctor might get blamed and get sued. To avoid this, they take you to court, so that the court can decide whether or not you need the medication. Now, because of big pharma's corrupt hold over this country's hospitals, when they take you to court, the staff will try hard to make sure to tell only their side of the story and claim you're in need of medication and are going to harm yourself/others, your task is to refute that charge, which is difficult without an expensive lawyer.

The police shouldn't be making any medical claims about your illness, and never have in my experience to me, but if they're saying something about your illness I suggest you get their badge numbers. Doctors don't outright "lie" (in the same sense that police do) so much as they misrepresent. Give them a written notice claiming you're not suicidal or at risk of harming yourself. If possible, have a third party present with you during your visits as witnesses.

If you took the injection voluntarily and avoided court, it's not necessarily a bad thing, since mental health courts are heinously one sided in America (in perspective, mental illness is blamed for mass shootings in this country which are perpetrated by people with a clear written agenda stating otherwise).

The route commonly taken which lets you dodge court fees is to just take the injection and pretend to cooperate, don't give them any reason to suspect you'll stop taking your medication once you get out. However, once you get out, stop taking the injection and move out of state (or if possible, out of the country) for a few months, up to a year.

When will the disorganized thinking go away. When should 90-95% of the symptoms be gone.

 

[awesome31311]

Do you have a sex drive? Is it strong? At what month did you get it back

Yes, it has recovered to be quite strong. I cannot pinpoint the specific month. But since I'm a guy I do not think you would be able to draw a helpful equivalence. Regardless, I was able to have strong erections after about four months, and about a year later I dropped acid and was able to stay hard with my gf for about 40 minutes, so I'd say a year max. Sex drive is linked to multiple factors, including the weight gain and anhedonia. So your mental state of mind really matters.

You’re so lucky to please your partner. I wish I could now I miss that feeling of sex. It sucks. I have zero sex drive.

what if he doesn’t wait for me? I’m sad as hell about this. I wish I was in your shoes right now. Do you have loads of energy and motivation? Which improvements did you have first?

You can make your partner understand by making them realize your issue is temporary, and you will recover. So, think of it like if someone was sick and incapacitated for a short while. I'm sure your partner would wait. If they don't wait, then they are not worth dating as they're shallow.

when do the disabling side effects go away.
also the cops charged me with disorderly conduct and the court have me 1 year probation including getting a diagnodis.
do I have to comply

I used to ask the same question. They do go away. They will not go away overnight, it could be a couple of months. Most recover within a year. Invega has a long half life, up to 49 days. It takes around 5-6 half lives to eliminate a drug, meaning it could take 300 days. It doesn't mean it will take 300 days before feeling better. You should start feeling better sooner than that (about 3 months), but it'll take a while before you're yourself. There's the initial bad feeling which subsides even for people who legitimately and voluntarily take invega
and stay on it. Meaning eventually your mind starts to recover. It's important that you let it heal. Even once the drug has left your system, your receptors need to recover.

Also, the "disorderly conduct" charge is the most subjective one. People have been arrested for that even when they broke no law. Usually they look for something to charge you with so they can blackmail you into either a criminal charge or invega injection. I'm really sorry for this, but it's very important that if you want to get better, to not involve yourself into the politics of it all for your own mental health sake.

People who recover eventually leave this forum because they find life again, and also, because it's perfectly healthy to want to avoid the matter when it's not affecting you physically anymore.

 

[Sbar25]

I have a chronic headache could this be the receptors that are dead?
Man I want it all back.
I feel disabled.
My head feels weird. Things gross me out.
When will I notice improvement!!!!

 

[Bogdan]

Another annoying symptom of mine is like an allergy..spots/marks on hands from time to time same with the strong itching...damn’ this medicine is really a poison..i started also sneezing more often after the shots. I’m worried that this symptoms will go away after a loong time the posion will be out of me...I’m scared that my body started naturally to produce this kind of allergies and they won’t stop after I recover mentally,physically..any thoughts? Thanks

 

[ihateinvega]

I didn't feel nauseous in the morning on invega alone. Make sure you're drinking lots of water.



In America, they do take you to court if you refuse the injection. This is done because the doctors want to relieve themselves of liability. So, if the doctor lets you refuse medication (which is your legal right, by the way), and then as a result you get sicker and do something drastic due to withdrawal/illness, the doctor might get blamed and get sued. To avoid this, they take you to court, so that the court can decide whether or not you need the medication. Now, because of big pharma's corrupt hold over this country's hospitals, when they take you to court, the staff will try hard to make sure to tell only their side of the story and claim you're in need of medication and are going to harm yourself/others, your task is to refute that charge, which is difficult without an expensive lawyer.

The police shouldn't be making any medical claims about your illness, and never have in my experience to me, but if they're saying something about your illness I suggest you get their badge numbers. Doctors don't outright "lie" (in the same sense that police do) so much as they misrepresent. Give them a written notice claiming you're not suicidal or at risk of harming yourself. If possible, have a third party present with you during your visits as witnesses.

If you took the injection voluntarily and avoided court, it's not necessarily a bad thing, since mental health courts are heinously one sided in America (in perspective, mental illness is blamed for mass shootings in this country which are perpetrated by people with a clear written agenda stating otherwise).

The route commonly taken which lets you dodge court fees is to just take the injection and pretend to cooperate, don't give them any reason to suspect you'll stop taking your medication once you get out. However, once you get out, stop taking the injection and move out of state (or if possible, out of the country) for a few months, up to a year.

Just to dodge court fees? Why?

I was under an involuntary civil commitment for about 18 months. It ended back in December and I stopped taking my medication. Should I still leave the state? Or country?